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Posters, Wristbands, and waiting

Lsk6453Lsk6453 Ponte Vedra, FL Posts: 550
edited June 2008 in The Porch
I wonder if you have to take a wristband, or can you just take the poster with you.

Having to get there early to wait to get in line to get a poster and then wait in line after the show makes for a long ass night...If I have a choice, I would rather take the poster when I buy it rather than wait.

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    yieldmookie10yieldmookie10 Posts: 61
    Lsk6453 wrote:
    I wonder if you have to take a wristband, or can you just take the poster with you.

    Having to get there early to wait to get in line to get a poster and then wait in line after the show makes for a long ass night...If I have a choice, I would rather take the poster when I buy it rather than wait.

    just my opinion

    good point, i hope they offer both options as well
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    JLukinJLukin Posts: 54
    The option to take the poster at time of purchase was not given tonight in WPB. You had to buy a wrist band and then return after the show to the same merch booth of purchase and claim your poster. There is a poster only line though so at least you don't have to wait through peopleing trying on shirts and stuff agian.
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    KDH12KDH12 Posts: 2,095
    did it help enforce the one per limit?
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    hiding103006hiding103006 Posts: 452
    how hard was it to get a poster? did you have to be inside as soon as the doors opened to even sniff them?
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    Sharon_Hearts_PJSharon_Hearts_PJ Bristol, PA Posts: 1,383
    I seriously pray that this doesn't cause an issue with public transportation at Camden. We usually have to haul ass to get to the train (Riverline) after shows. I don't know if it's going to wait for all of us crazy poster folk...Eek!
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    SBC03SBC03 Posts: 502
    heard the one of the ladies in the booth say there were 500 posters and 500 bands so......
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    panthergirlpanthergirl Posts: 469
    there were still posters at close to 7pm.

    and, it was wristband only; you couldn't take the poster with you.
    you had to pick it up after the show.
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    blue_rainblue_rain London Posts: 163
    It's cool that they're trying a different approach. I think it's about as fair as you can get as far as posters are concerned. I used to collect them, but gave up in '06 due to the mass interest! I'm just not that bothered, I guess.
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    Lsk6453Lsk6453 Ponte Vedra, FL Posts: 550
    well, i see this helping enforce the 1 per person issue from past tours. My brother who is going with me on the 20th complains that I drag him early to get a poster, waiting in line after is going to make him wine more...glad to see them trying this though.
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    All Those YesterdaysAll Those Yesterdays Posts: 2,723
    KDH12 wrote:
    did it help enforce the one per limit?

    That would be my guess as to why they are doing it.
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    nimsu8nimsu8 Posts: 321
    panthergirl wrote:
    there were still posters at close to 7pm.

    and, it was wristband only; you couldn't take the poster with you.
    you had to pick it up after the show.


    how bad was the line to get the poster after the show?
    did they sell/come with tubes?
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    pdalowskypdalowsky Doncaster,UK Posts: 14,717
    this sounds like a tremendous idea....

    hoe long before people start to frame their posters, ticket stubs, set lists (if lucky) and now their band together?
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    NY PJ1NY PJ1 Posts: 9,533
    Screw These Posters,,get Stickers
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    pjsteelerfanpjsteelerfan Maryland Posts: 9,884
    I think it is a great idea, and it can't take long to walk back up- show your band and get the poster after the show can it?
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    Sharon_Hearts_PJSharon_Hearts_PJ Bristol, PA Posts: 1,383
    Can someone clarify:
    Were they taking the wristbands back (like, cutting them off) when you claimed your poster? And was it those cheap paper wristbands?
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    decides2dreamdecides2dream Posts: 14,976
    SBC03 wrote:
    heard the one of the ladies in the booth say there were 500 posters and 500 bands so......



    THAT is awesome!
    what a way to keep it at one per person! plus, don't have to worry about your poster getting crushed.....love it! hope this helps spread em around to FANS. also makes me hopeful for the supposedly 'tough shows' to score a poster.


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    NY PJ1 wrote:
    Screw These Posters,,get Stickers



    THAT is ALL i used to buy at shows. :p i wanted to keep it cheap and small, but get a momento. damn italy and that fantastic poster.....changed everything. :D
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    NY PJ1NY PJ1 Posts: 9,533
    why do they make so few ?? 500 for 15,000 seats ???
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    RedMosquito22RedMosquito22 Posts: 8,158
    so people can sell them for $400 after the show on ebay
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    chromiamchromiam Posts: 4,114
    NY PJ1 wrote:
    why do they make so few ?? 500 for 15,000 seats ???

    did you see how ugly that poster was last night???? ;)
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    pearljamjenpearljamjen Posts: 13,578
    The waiting might suck but I would rather do this than have my poster be squished/damaged and have to worry about it during the show.
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    EddiesMuseEddiesMuse Posts: 389
    I thought the wrist bands were an excellent idea. You didnt have to worry about protecting the poster (especially since it rained some last nite) and you didnt have to keep up with the poster through out the show. I think it also helped reinforce the one poster per person. It was not that bad waiting to get a poster at the end of the night, it wasnt like there was a fast way out of there anyway.
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    boomhauerboomhauer Posts: 88
    13PJ13 wrote:
    Can someone clarify:
    Were they taking the wristbands back (like, cutting them off) when you claimed your poster? And was it those cheap paper wristbands?

    Thats exactly what they did... one person cut off the band, and made sure the person handing out the posters handed to the correct arm/hand. It was somewhat tedious, and lots of pushing/shoving to get in/out, but I think it was a good approach so that you didnt have to worry about lugging around and damaging it. they had some rubber bands, which ran out quick, but I didn't see any tubes.

    and yes they were the cheap wristbands you get when you go the bars, etc... they weren't too much of a problem, and they mad sure the tuck the exposed glue so it didn't rip your arm hair off when it moved. ;)
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    SBC03SBC03 Posts: 502
    NY PJ1 wrote:
    Screw These Posters,,get Stickers
    decides2dream wrote:
    THAT is ALL i used to buy at shows. :p i wanted to keep it cheap and small, but get a momento. damn italy and that fantastic poster.....changed everything. :D


    I thought about that on the ride home, should have gotten the black sticker. How many were there? 3? any pics?
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    Kilgore_TroutKilgore_Trout Posts: 7,334
    the "line" to get posters wasnt really a line at all at the vic... on your way out you just flash the ticket/wristband and they give you your poster... its not really a super elaborate process... even if a line forms itll move incredibly fast IMO... i dont get why anyone would prefer worrying about a poster throughout the whole show (limiting their crazy rockin out) rather than just getting it at the end of the night
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    zolsticezolstice Posts: 60
    NY PJ1 wrote:
    why do they make so few ?? 500 for 15,000 seats ???

    The people who ask "why do they make so few" obviously do not understand the screen printing process.

    As with anything, producing high quality work takes time. It's not like standard offset printing where thousands of posters can be run off in a short period of time. The posters have to be printed one at a time, one colour at a time. And if by chance one of the posters is slightly misaligned when it's placed under the screen, then the finished product is screwed, so extra time has to be taken with each individual print to make sure it turns out perfect.

    So do the math. 500 posters per show, 13 shows = 6500 hand made posters in total (that's right, hand made, not automatically produced by machine). Since you also have to factor in the time it takes to design a different poster for each city (or two posters for the cities with multiple shows) and you can begin to appreciate why the production runs are so low.

    Heck, for all we know, Brad Klaussen is still printing all of his posters off himself (I'm pretty sure he mentioned that he did all his own printing for the last tour), and The Ames people aren't working out of a huge production facility either.

    People have to keep in mind that these posters are Art, not just a bunch of mass produced crap.
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    nimsu8nimsu8 Posts: 321
    sgossard3 wrote:
    the "line" to get posters wasnt really a line at all at the vic... on your way out you just flash the ticket/wristband and they give you your poster... its not really a super elaborate process... even if a line forms itll move incredibly fast IMO... i dont get why anyone would prefer worrying about a poster throughout the whole show (limiting their crazy rockin out) rather than just getting it at the end of the night


    the only reason that i would prefer to get it before is at some shows like msg, transportation is based on a train and it would suck to miss your train and have to wait an extra hour just because the line was a little long
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    slightofjeffslightofjeff Posts: 7,757
    13PJ13 wrote:
    Can someone clarify:
    Were they taking the wristbands back (like, cutting them off) when you claimed your poster? And was it those cheap paper wristbands?

    sounds like someone is working on a poster scam ;)
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    Stephen FlowStephen Flow Posts: 3,327
    zolstice wrote:
    The people who ask "why do they make so few" obviously do not understand the screen printing process.

    As with anything, producing high quality work takes time. It's not like standard offset printing where thousands of posters can be run off in a short period of time. The posters have to be printed one at a time, one colour at a time. And if by chance one of the posters is slightly misaligned when it's placed under the screen, then the finished product is screwed, so extra time has to be taken with each individual print to make sure it turns out perfect.

    So do the math. 500 posters per show, 13 shows = 6500 hand made posters in total (that's right, hand made, not automatically produced by machine). Since you also have to factor in the time it takes to design a different poster for each city (or two posters for the cities with multiple shows) and you can begin to appreciate why the production runs are so low.

    Heck, for all we know, Brad Klaussen is still printing all of his posters off himself (I'm pretty sure he mentioned that he did all his own printing for the last tour), and The Ames people aren't working out of a huge production facility either.

    People have to keep in mind that these posters are Art, not just a bunch of mass produced crap.

    Usually high scale screen printers have an automated machines doing their work... I know this because I interned at a screen printing shop outside of Manhattan when I was in college and learned a great deal about the business... we did do a few band posters there (not the design but the printing portion)... we also had drying machines that dry the ink very quickly...

    You're fooling yourself if you think that Ames/Klausen are pulling down the inks themselves... and if they are pulling the ink then the systems they are using are semi-automatic. Yes it still takes time this way, but not nearly as long as manual would and also the posters would have huge registration issues (one or two colors being off center)... they are art, but they are mass produced...albeit in small quantities. I'm even willing to bet that the artists make the designs and the rest of the operation is handled by professional screen printers in house or outsourced.
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    eyesnoeyeseyesnoeyes Posts: 50
    Stephen Flow wrote:
    Usually high scale screen printers have an automated machines doing their work... I know this because I interned at a screen printing shop outside of Manhattan when I was in college and learned a great deal about the business... we did do a few band posters there (not the design but the printing portion)... we also had drying machines that dry the ink very quickly...

    You're fooling yourself if you think that Ames/Klausen are pulling down the inks themselves... and if they are pulling the ink then the systems they are using are semi-automatic. Yes it still takes time this way, but not nearly as long as manual would and also the posters would have huge registration issues (one or two colors being off center)... they are art, but they are mass produced...albeit in small quantities. I'm even willing to bet that the artists make the designs and the rest of the operation is handled by professional screen printers in house or outsourced.

    Ya, Ames uses Seribellum press most of the time and Klausen often uses D&L - so you're right. But the original poster's point still stands that these aren't like posters of Britney you see at the back of a CD store and I think some people think that's the case. They are 'art' and for that reason alone they are going to try to not absolutely flood the market - they do actually want these things to appreciate over time.
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    Sharon_Hearts_PJSharon_Hearts_PJ Bristol, PA Posts: 1,383
    slightofjeff wrote:
    sounds like someone is working on a poster scam ;)
    D'oh! It does sound that way, doesn't it?? I swear that's not my intent. I just like to be prepared for new things. I'm a total Type-A personality! :)
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