That would (obviously) depend on the amount of coverage the story gets.
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sure the LAPD has been guilty of racism. but that's apart from the fact that he killed two people. and he shouldn't have been acquitted in the criminal case because of that technicality.
and all those people who cheered him on, saying he was being framed because of his race...you think *he'd* hang out with black people? no....he'd just hang out with *rich* people. that situation was about money, not race, and that's what got him free.
so now, fast forward to the present...even if double jeopardy exists in the judicial system, i'm more interested in karma, and because of that i hope he ends up in jail the rest of his life.
the jurys job was to look at the evidence. if they found evidence that suggested he was guilty they should have convicted him, if reasonable doubt existed they should have aquited.
reasonable doubt in the murder case EXISTED. reguardless of your feelings of his guilt.
if johnny cochoran made up the race issue out of thin air thats one thing.
but the people handling the DNA evidence did a HORRIFIC job of it, and the lead investigator was a person who committed perjury only to be revealed to be a racist liar.
what was the jury supposed to think?
Its one thing to say "these guys are capable of framing people" and not give an example. These are people who perjured themselves on the stand, who commited CRIMES themselves.
How much time in the clinker should that idiot get who took the blood evidence home? Think he served any time at all?
murder is wrong. No doubt. But so is mishandling and currupting evidence.
the reason oj isnt in jail, isnt because the jury was a bunch of bumbling idiots. Its because they were the opposite, highly alert, literate, citizens who looked at the evidence carefully.
Thats the way things go. The LAPD shouldnt have had high ranking racist members and shouldnt have had currupt pigs who take evidence home, if they wanted oj put in jail. They framed a guilty man.
How about Fung. He didnt collect all the DNA, but absurdly said he went back "WEEKS LATER" to get them.
if that doesnt alert someone of a red flag, I dont know what will.
Fung collects evidence WEEKS LATER. I mean give me a goddamn break. This is the goddamn keystone cops.
Who found all the DNA? Wasn't it Furhman. Red flag number two. A perjured member of the LAPD, a racist. Found all the DNA.
oh and by what measure did Fung get the DNA collected?
Anyone, anyone??????
He used gloves right.
EHHHHH!
He picked them up bare handed.
Again, my keystone cops reference should be making more sense right now.
What police structure, has a lead investigator collect all the DNA, lie on stand, come out of the closet as a racist, then fung collects evidence bare handed,
then Van Atter takes the DNA home.
I am surprised the jury didnt convict the cops instead.
Question: Did you watch it on TV when it happened?
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
If you watched it unfold day after day on TV you would know deep down what happened and how it went. The coverage was unprecedented.
His money, his fame, and the media involvement/effect , somehow bought him his freedom.
Sad to think he freaked out, but he somehow did.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
If you watched it unfold day after day on TV you would know deep down what happened and how it went. The coverage was unprecedented.
His money, his fame, and the media involvement/effect , somehow bought him his freedom.
Sad to think he freaked out, but he somehow did.
that's a good point. and those jurors weren't considered intelligent or impartial by any stretch of the imagination....but just blinded by all the theatrics OJ's defense team displayed in court.
he killed 2 people and shouldn't be out in public. he should be in jail.
that's a good point. and those jurors weren't considered intelligent or impartial by any stretch of the imagination....but just blinded by all the theatrics OJ's defense team displayed in court.
"if the glove does not fit, you must acquit!" remember Johnny Cochran?
That's how he got off
and the Bronco chase?! Man oh man.
there was an article in today's Post that he threatened this guy who did work on his house in Miami b/c he thought his current gf was cheating on him with the guy! :eek:
all the evidence suggests that both are what happened.
I wouldnt put it above OJ to murder someone. And I wouldnt put it above the LAPD especially near the time of the LA riots to be OVERTLY racist and unruly in their pursuit of crime
to me thats the best answer for the case. They framed a guilty man. This is for the murder case at least.
And it looks like he could have been framed again, or at least the victim of entrapment
let me get this straight... you think OJ was guilty and murdered both those people, AND you think he was framed?
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oh my poor knicks.
I was at the bar watching the Knicks when they cut in with OJ. I was so mad!
But to give the people that were too young an idea of exactly how the scene played out:
People were on their feet in the bar (not me) yelling "Go OJ!!!!! Go!" All the time laughing and slapping each other on the back. OJ was outrunning the fuzz. It was a hoot.
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let me get this straight... you think OJ was guilty and murdered both those people, AND you think he was framed?
I actually agree with that. Mark Furman is an idiot and he planted evidence. The entire prosecution for that case are idiots.
They have a guy, leaving a scene flying around with his bloody hand in a bag, blood all over his bronco...guilty as hell and they have Mark Furman planting evidence in his back yard, and the guilty party trying on gloves in the court room that are the wrong size or had shrunk. Why was Furman even walking around in his back yard with bloody gloves when they didn't need it?
Was he guilty... hell yes. Did the prosecution and the LAPD expose thier stupidity... hell yes. OJ proved yet again that he is an idiot by rounding up thugs at a bar and conducting a "sting" operation to get his stuff, clearly he's a sociopath, clearly he's a murderer but I don't disagree with the jury in the first case because Mark Furman the LAPD and the Prosecution completely botched the shit out of an open and shut murder case.
Johnny Cochran was brilliant, the prosecution were pathetic and sad.
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I actually agree with that. Mark Furman is an idiot and he planted evidence. The entire prosecution for that case are idiots.
They have a guy, leaving a scene flying around with his bloody hand in a bag, blood all over his bronco...guilty as hell and they have Mark Furman planting evidence in his back yard, and the guilty party trying on gloves in the court room that are the wrong size or had shrunk. Why was Furman even walking around in his back yard with bloody gloves when they didn't need it?
Was he guilty... hell yes. Did the prosecution and the LAPD expose thier stupidity... hell yes. OJ proved yet again that he is an idiot by rounding up thugs at a bar and conducting a "sting" operation to get his stuff, clearly he's a sociopath, clearly he's a murderer but I don't disagree with the jury in the first case because Mark Furman the LAPD and the Prosecution completely botched the shit out of an open and shut murder case.
Johnny Cochran was brilliant, the prosecution were pathetic and sad.
Pffft. The jury chose politics over justice. They feared retribution in their hometown,
A gun pointed at yourself while your friend drives you at 5mph down an LA highway dosen't really point to a distraught figure who just found his wife and "some guy" covered in blood on your own property.
I actually agree with that. Mark Furman is an idiot and he planted evidence. The entire prosecution for that case are idiots.
They have a guy, leaving a scene flying around with his bloody hand in a bag, blood all over his bronco...guilty as hell and they have Mark Furman planting evidence in his back yard, and the guilty party trying on gloves in the court room that are the wrong size or had shrunk. Why was Furman even walking around in his back yard with bloody gloves when they didn't need it?
Was he guilty... hell yes. Did the prosecution and the LAPD expose thier stupidity... hell yes. OJ proved yet again that he is an idiot by rounding up thugs at a bar and conducting a "sting" operation to get his stuff, clearly he's a sociopath, clearly he's a murderer but I don't disagree with the jury in the first case because Mark Furman the LAPD and the Prosecution completely botched the shit out of an open and shut murder case.
Johnny Cochran was brilliant, the prosecution were pathetic and sad.
i don't know if that counts as framing. i think inherent in framing is an innocent "cuplrit." that sounds like abuse of power and planting evidence. yeah, the prosecution fucked up big time. none of that evidence should have ever made it to court (did it?). and legally, the jury was potentially right to acquit him. but this proves only that an dumb ass cop fucked up and a rich guy was able to hire the guns to exploit it. it hardly proves that OJ is innocent and that anyone who thinks he's a scumbag is racist, as che is implying.
So... Armed Robbery and holding people in a room against their will should not result in jail time?
not if you're black, becos then you're probably not guilty and just the subject of social racism. if you're white though, yeah, you should go to jail you racist bastard!
Maybe I shouldn't have called you racist, Che, but you're very peculiar to skin color. You need to live what you believe, in the day, not in the defensive posture of someone trying to change the past. It can't be done. What's done is done.
not if you're black, becos then you're probably not guilty and just the subject of social racism. if you're white though, yeah, you should go to jail you racist bastard!
So i wonder what Che's opinion is regarding O.J.'s golf/Armed Robbery buddies... should they get off too?
i don't know if that counts as framing. i think inherent in framing is an innocent "cuplrit." that sounds like abuse of power and planting evidence. yeah, the prosecution fucked up big time. none of that evidence should have ever made it to court (did it?). and legally, the jury was potentially right to acquit him. but this proves only that an dumb ass cop fucked up and a rich guy was able to hire the guns to exploit it. it hardly proves that OJ is innocent and that anyone who thinks he's a scumbag is racist, as che is implying.
oh, ok, sorry I misunderstood. OJ is a sociopath, they have tape of what he was saying when they burst into the room, clearly, he's a fucking lunatic. If anything this incident makes it more obvious that he murdered both Nicole Brown and Ronald Goldman.
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What has pissed me off to no end is the way this case is being talked about.
Many people seem to be in agreeance that oj killed two people.
Additionally its pretty much proven that LA Police attempted to frame oj for the crime. I mean, heres one example. They go to the crime scene. They collect DNA. Instead of taking that DNA to the lab to test it, the police take the DNA HOME!!! Thats illegal, unprofessional and illegal. On that basis alone the jury was right for letting oj walk. Mark Fuhrman was THE witness for prosecutors, and he was a RACIST. That tells you something about the police, and how serious they took the oj case.
Then you have the second trial, where despite being found innocent, he is ordered to pay 33 million to the Goldmans.
You have Nicole Simpsons sister and the Goldmans milking the tragedy for all its worth, making money off OJ's book. I mean, its gross how often they appear on tv. They are exploiting Ron and Nicoles deaths. Thats sick and disgusting.
You have Mark Fuhrman on tv, giving his opinion. A noted racist appearing on tv giving his views. Why is he credible?
OJ shouldnt be given life in prison or even 30 years. He was found innocent in 1994 or 95 of the murders. He cant be tried again. He was tried two times. A third time would be criminal. There is something called double jeopardy folks!
His crime: he pulled a gun on someone and stole merchandise. He didnt fire the gun. He didnt kill anyone. he didnt harm anyone.
How is 30 years to life imprisonment justice?
He brandished a gun for godssake!
OJ should be left alone. Maybe he should spend 6 months in jail, but more than that is crazy.
He committed robbery. Thats it.
Riccio set him up
and I am so sick of people acting like because he isnt a black activist that that means that the LAPD wouldnt set him up.
You really think Fuhrman thought of OJ as white? You really think racists think of blacks in terms of whiteness or blackness?
He's not in jail, he's out on bond.
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If he was guilty why bother framing him? If they were framing why wouldn't they do a better job. Also while the idea of planting the blood might be plausible, what about the shoe prints. Do you think that the cops actually went to OJ's house, stole his shoes, then went back to the crime scene and made shoe prints?
What has pissed me off to no end is the way this case is being talked about.
Many people seem to be in agreeance that oj killed two people.
Additionally its pretty much proven that LA Police attempted to frame oj for the crime. I mean, heres one example. They go to the crime scene. They collect DNA. Instead of taking that DNA to the lab to test it, the police take the DNA HOME!!! Thats illegal, unprofessional and illegal. On that basis alone the jury was right for letting oj walk. Mark Fuhrman was THE witness for prosecutors, and he was a RACIST. That tells you something about the police, and how serious they took the oj case.
Then you have the second trial, where despite being found innocent, he is ordered to pay 33 million to the Goldmans.
You have Nicole Simpsons sister and the Goldmans milking the tragedy for all its worth, making money off OJ's book. I mean, its gross how often they appear on tv. They are exploiting Ron and Nicoles deaths. Thats sick and disgusting.
You have Mark Fuhrman on tv, giving his opinion. A noted racist appearing on tv giving his views. Why is he credible?
OJ shouldnt be given life in prison or even 30 years. He was found innocent in 1994 or 95 of the murders. He cant be tried again. He was tried two times. A third time would be criminal. There is something called double jeopardy folks!
His crime: he pulled a gun on someone and stole merchandise. He didnt fire the gun. He didnt kill anyone. he didnt harm anyone.
How is 30 years to life imprisonment justice?
He brandished a gun for godssake!
OJ should be left alone. Maybe he should spend 6 months in jail, but more than that is crazy.
He committed robbery. Thats it.
Riccio set him up
and I am so sick of people acting like because he isnt a black activist that that means that the LAPD wouldnt set him up.
You really think Fuhrman thought of OJ as white? You really think racists think of blacks in terms of whiteness or blackness?
no it's not. and like i said in another post, which obviously people aren't reading or they don't watch the news; there was no gun.
you're right, they shouldn't take the law into their own hands. that's about it.
Um, yes it is! I've been through this. I got a bicycle stolen, and I tried to steal it back, and I was the one that got into trouble. If something is stolen you have to call the police and let them handle it. You can't take care of it yourself. That's illegal. Sorry, but its the truth!
whats more sick is that the goldmans published it.
thus my slandering of the goldmans is in my view justified.
I don't think its sick. OJ said he would never work to pay the Goldman's what he owed them. Well, in writing that book he worked hard for a long while. They took it away from him and published it to say... HA! See you did work to pay us what was owed, you bastard. It was a very clever move if you ask me. Its not like they are getting loads of money from it. The best guesstimate of what they will make of the book is 120,000- 200,000 at most. It cost more to sue OJ than that.
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That would (obviously) depend on the amount of coverage the story gets.
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the jurys job was to look at the evidence. if they found evidence that suggested he was guilty they should have convicted him, if reasonable doubt existed they should have aquited.
reasonable doubt in the murder case EXISTED. reguardless of your feelings of his guilt.
if johnny cochoran made up the race issue out of thin air thats one thing.
but the people handling the DNA evidence did a HORRIFIC job of it, and the lead investigator was a person who committed perjury only to be revealed to be a racist liar.
what was the jury supposed to think?
Its one thing to say "these guys are capable of framing people" and not give an example. These are people who perjured themselves on the stand, who commited CRIMES themselves.
How much time in the clinker should that idiot get who took the blood evidence home? Think he served any time at all?
murder is wrong. No doubt. But so is mishandling and currupting evidence.
the reason oj isnt in jail, isnt because the jury was a bunch of bumbling idiots. Its because they were the opposite, highly alert, literate, citizens who looked at the evidence carefully.
Thats the way things go. The LAPD shouldnt have had high ranking racist members and shouldnt have had currupt pigs who take evidence home, if they wanted oj put in jail. They framed a guilty man.
How about Fung. He didnt collect all the DNA, but absurdly said he went back "WEEKS LATER" to get them.
if that doesnt alert someone of a red flag, I dont know what will.
Fung collects evidence WEEKS LATER. I mean give me a goddamn break. This is the goddamn keystone cops.
Who found all the DNA? Wasn't it Furhman. Red flag number two. A perjured member of the LAPD, a racist. Found all the DNA.
Anyone, anyone??????
He used gloves right.
EHHHHH!
He picked them up bare handed.
Again, my keystone cops reference should be making more sense right now.
What police structure, has a lead investigator collect all the DNA, lie on stand, come out of the closet as a racist, then fung collects evidence bare handed,
then Van Atter takes the DNA home.
I am surprised the jury didnt convict the cops instead.
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This is not surprising.
did I make anything up?
If you watched it unfold day after day on TV you would know deep down what happened and how it went. The coverage was unprecedented.
His money, his fame, and the media involvement/effect , somehow bought him his freedom.
Sad to think he freaked out, but he somehow did.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
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i believe the knicks were in the finals against houston.
oh my poor knicks.
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hi Esther, now we are all going to be sick, thanks
he killed 2 people and shouldn't be out in public. he should be in jail.
That's how he got off
and the Bronco chase?! Man oh man.
there was an article in today's Post that he threatened this guy who did work on his house in Miami b/c he thought his current gf was cheating on him with the guy! :eek:
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let me get this straight... you think OJ was guilty and murdered both those people, AND you think he was framed?
But to give the people that were too young an idea of exactly how the scene played out:
People were on their feet in the bar (not me) yelling "Go OJ!!!!! Go!" All the time laughing and slapping each other on the back. OJ was outrunning the fuzz. It was a hoot.
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I actually agree with that. Mark Furman is an idiot and he planted evidence. The entire prosecution for that case are idiots.
They have a guy, leaving a scene flying around with his bloody hand in a bag, blood all over his bronco...guilty as hell and they have Mark Furman planting evidence in his back yard, and the guilty party trying on gloves in the court room that are the wrong size or had shrunk. Why was Furman even walking around in his back yard with bloody gloves when they didn't need it?
Was he guilty... hell yes. Did the prosecution and the LAPD expose thier stupidity... hell yes. OJ proved yet again that he is an idiot by rounding up thugs at a bar and conducting a "sting" operation to get his stuff, clearly he's a sociopath, clearly he's a murderer but I don't disagree with the jury in the first case because Mark Furman the LAPD and the Prosecution completely botched the shit out of an open and shut murder case.
Johnny Cochran was brilliant, the prosecution were pathetic and sad.
Pffft. The jury chose politics over justice. They feared retribution in their hometown,
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i don't know if that counts as framing. i think inherent in framing is an innocent "cuplrit." that sounds like abuse of power and planting evidence. yeah, the prosecution fucked up big time. none of that evidence should have ever made it to court (did it?). and legally, the jury was potentially right to acquit him. but this proves only that an dumb ass cop fucked up and a rich guy was able to hire the guns to exploit it. it hardly proves that OJ is innocent and that anyone who thinks he's a scumbag is racist, as che is implying.
not if you're black, becos then you're probably not guilty and just the subject of social racism. if you're white though, yeah, you should go to jail you racist bastard!
Just my thought on the matter.
Sorry if I was off-base.
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So i wonder what Che's opinion is regarding O.J.'s golf/Armed Robbery buddies... should they get off too?
oh, ok, sorry I misunderstood. OJ is a sociopath, they have tape of what he was saying when they burst into the room, clearly, he's a fucking lunatic. If anything this incident makes it more obvious that he murdered both Nicole Brown and Ronald Goldman.
i'd say the book proves that
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If he was guilty why bother framing him? If they were framing why wouldn't they do a better job. Also while the idea of planting the blood might be plausible, what about the shoe prints. Do you think that the cops actually went to OJ's house, stole his shoes, then went back to the crime scene and made shoe prints?
He he, I hope he didn't do it, and gets life.
Um, yes it is! I've been through this. I got a bicycle stolen, and I tried to steal it back, and I was the one that got into trouble. If something is stolen you have to call the police and let them handle it. You can't take care of it yourself. That's illegal. Sorry, but its the truth!
PS... I didn't have gun either.
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I don't think its sick. OJ said he would never work to pay the Goldman's what he owed them. Well, in writing that book he worked hard for a long while. They took it away from him and published it to say... HA! See you did work to pay us what was owed, you bastard. It was a very clever move if you ask me. Its not like they are getting loads of money from it. The best guesstimate of what they will make of the book is 120,000- 200,000 at most. It cost more to sue OJ than that.
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