don't care much about the first part of the post...
but the part that caught my eye is where it says he stole some merchandise.
trying to take, or taking something that belongs to you in the first place is not stealing...sorry, but it's true.
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Actually, yes. It IS stealing. You can not take back by force what was taken from you. You still can't steal even if it was stolen from you, and you certainly can't do it brandishing a weapon. That's a felony. If it was stolen then he should have called the police and let them do their jobs. To take the law into your own hands is vigilantism, which is also illegal.
I read a credible argument that it was actually his kid, Jason (?) who killed them. Apparently he had a history of mental illness, he liked knives, and he's never accoutned for his whereabouts on that night.
Not his and Nicole's little boy? He was like THREE or something at the time. lol
Actually, yes. It IS stealing. You can not take back by force what was taken from you. You still can't steal even if it was stolen from you, and you certainly can't do it brandishing a weapon. That's a felony. If it was stolen then he should have called the police and let them do their jobs. To take the law into your own hands is vigilantism, which is also illegal.
no it's not. and like i said in another post, which obviously people aren't reading or they don't watch the news; there was no gun.
you're right, they shouldn't take the law into their own hands. that's about it.
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no it's not. and like i said in another post, which obviously people aren't reading or they don't watch the news; there was no gun.
you're right, they shouldn't take the law into their own hands. that's about it.
regardless of whether or not he had a weapon, it's still breaking and entering and burglary. from what i hear, nevada (vegas in particular) doesn't fuck around with theft.
regardless of whether or not he had a weapon, it's still breaking and entering and burglary. from what i hear, nevada (vegas in particular) doesn't fuck around with theft.
haha, i totally forgot about the breaking and entering. haven't heard anything lately...hope he gets what's coming to him.
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I think Che' is racist. He's the only person on this board I've seen that continually brings up the topic of dark skin color. He's white-skinned, and he takes dark skin personally.
I don't understand his line of reason. The system is fucked up. We have a world of war-mongering investors banking on violence. Banking on division. Banking on making money with violence, fear and murder and arms deals. Do you think they give a fuck who is suckered into it? Che? Are you suggesting, Che, we put the black folks in charge of the military industrial complex? In charge of the cesspool that is Washington, DC? Is jungle love gonna save us? Would that satisfy your equal opportunity employment standard? The oppressors don't give a fuck who you are in this scheme...I mean, they don't care what color your skin is. We're all in the same boat.
Regardless of what you think of him, I think it is appalling to say that the victim's families are exploiting this for every cent it's worth. Neither family has gotten any money, because O.J. refused to work, therefore had no wages to be garnished, and was free to live off of the millions he had without having to pay (shitty loophole). The Goldmans, by publishing this book, are finally getting the money that is owed to them. Nicole's family has yet to receive a cent.
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I will never forget watching the verdict live. At one point (I forget which charge), the short defense attorney with glasses had a look on his face that was TOTALLY (holy shit, he got away with it).
It's still replayed to this day. If you have seen it and noticed, you know exactly what I'm talking about.
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Do you mean Christoper Darden?
I remember that day too, I was in college. It was in 1995.
and remember OJ was going to 'find the real killers?" Yea. that's worked out well.
he wasn't tried twice for the same crime in criminal court, Che, he was tried once in criminal court and once in the civil trial, and he was found guilty in the civil case. He owes the family that money, that was the judgment. They're not trying to be exploitative, they're trying to get what's due to them.
yes but do you think he is going to get a fair trial? of course not. People think he is a killer.
his crime is being thought of as a murderer. If he was johnny whitebread, with no criminal history he would be sent to prison for 6 months. period
so police misconduct, racism, has no bearing on the oj case?
I loved how people always acted like it was such a bore to discuss race during the murder trial. Like it was "oh why does the defense keep making up this racism crap".
yet is was the prosecution who brought it up. Race didnt play a part until furhman acted like the racist bigot he is.
additionally whats going on is similar to this hypothetical
if Michael jackson was caught on tax evasion. and the jury found him guilty and sentenced him to 40 years in jail, because most americans think of him as a molester.
thats not right.
oj cannot be tried again for the crimes of the past.
he robbed a place at gun point. the gun didnt fire. no one killed or injured.
how does that add up to 30 to life?
my whole point is that people view him as a double murderer, yet everyone forgets the OUTRAGEOUS conduct by the LAPD
As I said, who in their right mind hires Mark Furhman? and beyond that, why allow him to be the star witness?
it depends on nevada law. i don't know their armed robbery statutes. breaking into someone's house with a gun is a serious offense anywhere you go. i can easily see it carrying a stiff sentence. there is no way in hell he will get anywhere near that much time.
you're looking at this backwards. ignore his skin color. oj didnt get framed for being black. that's stupid and if they wanted they coulda picked some poor ghetto kid who'd never have had a real defense. oj GOT OFF becos he was RICH. this case is more an example of classism than racism. if you can afford the best attorneys, you can literally get away with murder.
so what? you got what you wanted. police fucked up, the evidence was kept out of court, and oj walked. the standard of proof is lower in civil court.
i hear this again and again.
but can anyone answer me this:
do you think racists, homophobes, sexists, etc.. think of the people they discriminate against, in terms of class, and in terms of how well they blend into society?
Would the PGA not allow female golfers to play at the masters if that female was more masculine?
Is a racist like Furhman thinking of blacks in terms of how "ghetto" or "black" they are?
Is the republican party more accepting of a gay person if they are
"sort" of gay, as opposed to flamboyant and "out"?
I think if you're a racist, you hate ALL blacks period. You dont pick a choose.
Did the white students in Jena really care if some of those black students they intimidated were "not as black" as some?
Just because OJ isnt Martin Luther King and an activist doesnt mean the LAPD and furhman in particular, thought of him as white.
I don't think I've heard one expert predict O.J. is going to serve any more than a couple years, if that. The 30-to-life you're hearing would be the max penalty. You may want to check your facts...he's not just being charged with armed robbery. There are 11 felonies altogether that encompass kidnapping, armed robbery, assault with a deadly weapon and conspiracy. If it makes you feel better, the other five dudes are also being charged with 10 of those 11 felonies.
Aside from that, if you want to continue spending your time defending a murderer and chiding the family of one of the victims...well...I guess some people never get over rooting for Darth Vader. A racist cop trumps a mountain of evidence? Riiiiiiight...
OJ simpson murdered two people. i don't particular care if the poor man is discriminated against any more. though i have to admit tis not his fault the US justice system, or any justice system for that matter, isn't actually about justice, but more about what can be proven and disproven. so kudos to his defense team for helping him get away with murder. they did the job required of them.
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do you think racists, homophobes, sexists, etc.. think of the people they discriminate against, in terms of class, and in terms of how well they blend into society?
Would the PGA not allow female golfers to play at the masters if that female was more masculine?
Is a racist like Furhman thinking of blacks in terms of how "ghetto" or "black" they are?
Is the republican party more accepting of a gay person if they are
"sort" of gay, as opposed to flamboyant and "out"?
I think if you're a racist, you hate ALL blacks period. You dont pick a choose.
Did the white students in Jena really care if some of those black students they intimidated were "not as black" as some?
Just because OJ isnt Martin Luther King and an activist doesnt mean the LAPD and furhman in particular, thought of him as white.
i never said they did. i said the fact that he is rich is how he didn't get convicted. snoop dogg was acquitted too... think he was innocent? scott peterson went to jail... he wasn't rich enough. but phil spector probably won't.
beyond that, i dont know what you're talking about with degrees. i think there is huge variance... it's not as simple as either hating all blacks or joining the naacp. there is a lot of ground in the middle. there are people who have subtle latent racism they're not even aware of. people who have no problem chatting with the black guy in class next to them at college, but would feel uncomfortable hanging out with his old friends in compton.
life isn't as simple as you want to make it. you need to go back to the commune dude... it was the only time you've ever seemed happy. you're miserable and pissed off 100% of the rest of the time and that's no way to live.
now go turn on your public enemy cd and convince yourself you REALLY know how it is for blacks. just remember that you actually don't.
all the evidence suggests that both are what happened.
I wouldnt put it above OJ to murder someone. And I wouldnt put it above the LAPD especially near the time of the LA riots to be OVERTLY racist and unruly in their pursuit of crime
to me thats the best answer for the case. They framed a guilty man. This is for the murder case at least.
And it looks like he could have been framed again, or at least the victim of entrapment
sure the LAPD has been guilty of racism. but that's apart from the fact that he killed two people. and he shouldn't have been acquitted in the criminal case because of that technicality.
and all those people who cheered him on, saying he was being framed because of his race...you think *he'd* hang out with black people? no....he'd just hang out with *rich* people. that situation was about money, not race, and that's what got him free.
so now, fast forward to the present...even if double jeopardy exists in the judicial system, i'm more interested in karma, and because of that i hope he ends up in jail the rest of his life.
Another OJ trial could possibly take some heat off the war...
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Actually, yes. It IS stealing. You can not take back by force what was taken from you. You still can't steal even if it was stolen from you, and you certainly can't do it brandishing a weapon. That's a felony. If it was stolen then he should have called the police and let them do their jobs. To take the law into your own hands is vigilantism, which is also illegal.
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Not his and Nicole's little boy? He was like THREE or something at the time. lol
All I can see is that little boy.
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no it's not. and like i said in another post, which obviously people aren't reading or they don't watch the news; there was no gun.
you're right, they shouldn't take the law into their own hands. that's about it.
Esther's here and she's sick?
hi Esther, now we are all going to be sick, thanks
regardless of whether or not he had a weapon, it's still breaking and entering and burglary. from what i hear, nevada (vegas in particular) doesn't fuck around with theft.
haha, i totally forgot about the breaking and entering. haven't heard anything lately...hope he gets what's coming to him.
Esther's here and she's sick?
hi Esther, now we are all going to be sick, thanks
I don't understand his line of reason. The system is fucked up. We have a world of war-mongering investors banking on violence. Banking on division. Banking on making money with violence, fear and murder and arms deals. Do you think they give a fuck who is suckered into it? Che? Are you suggesting, Che, we put the black folks in charge of the military industrial complex? In charge of the cesspool that is Washington, DC? Is jungle love gonna save us? Would that satisfy your equal opportunity employment standard? The oppressors don't give a fuck who you are in this scheme...I mean, they don't care what color your skin is. We're all in the same boat.
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honestly, do you think me, a white male, with no criminal history would get 30 to life?
your seriously ingesting drugs if you think so.
he robbed a place at gun point. the gun didnt fire. no one killed or injured.
how does that add up to 30 to life?
my whole point is that people view him as a double murderer, yet everyone forgets the OUTRAGEOUS conduct by the LAPD
As I said, who in their right mind hires Mark Furhman? and beyond that, why allow him to be the star witness?
yet all anyone remembers is oj
why give fuhrman a pass? Why is he still on tv talking?
yeah....
the lead detective takes dna from the scene to HIS HOME!
yet all anyone on this thread talks about is asinine stuff.
this isnt some conspiracy theory people.
the jury was right to aquit oj. the police were WAY out of bounds.
I mean, taking evidence home. What the hell is that about?
yes but do you think he is going to get a fair trial? of course not. People think he is a killer.
his crime is being thought of as a murderer. If he was johnny whitebread, with no criminal history he would be sent to prison for 6 months. period
I'll agree that one of the people in this thread is talking about asinine stuff.
I loved how people always acted like it was such a bore to discuss race during the murder trial. Like it was "oh why does the defense keep making up this racism crap".
yet is was the prosecution who brought it up. Race didnt play a part until furhman acted like the racist bigot he is.
if Michael jackson was caught on tax evasion. and the jury found him guilty and sentenced him to 40 years in jail, because most americans think of him as a molester.
thats not right.
oj cannot be tried again for the crimes of the past.
it depends on nevada law. i don't know their armed robbery statutes. breaking into someone's house with a gun is a serious offense anywhere you go. i can easily see it carrying a stiff sentence. there is no way in hell he will get anywhere near that much time.
you're looking at this backwards. ignore his skin color. oj didnt get framed for being black. that's stupid and if they wanted they coulda picked some poor ghetto kid who'd never have had a real defense. oj GOT OFF becos he was RICH. this case is more an example of classism than racism. if you can afford the best attorneys, you can literally get away with murder.
so what? you got what you wanted. police fucked up, the evidence was kept out of court, and oj walked. the standard of proof is lower in civil court.
i hear this again and again.
but can anyone answer me this:
do you think racists, homophobes, sexists, etc.. think of the people they discriminate against, in terms of class, and in terms of how well they blend into society?
Would the PGA not allow female golfers to play at the masters if that female was more masculine?
Is a racist like Furhman thinking of blacks in terms of how "ghetto" or "black" they are?
Is the republican party more accepting of a gay person if they are
"sort" of gay, as opposed to flamboyant and "out"?
I think if you're a racist, you hate ALL blacks period. You dont pick a choose.
Did the white students in Jena really care if some of those black students they intimidated were "not as black" as some?
Just because OJ isnt Martin Luther King and an activist doesnt mean the LAPD and furhman in particular, thought of him as white.
Aside from that, if you want to continue spending your time defending a murderer and chiding the family of one of the victims...well...I guess some people never get over rooting for Darth Vader. A racist cop trumps a mountain of evidence? Riiiiiiight...
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i never said they did. i said the fact that he is rich is how he didn't get convicted. snoop dogg was acquitted too... think he was innocent? scott peterson went to jail... he wasn't rich enough. but phil spector probably won't.
beyond that, i dont know what you're talking about with degrees. i think there is huge variance... it's not as simple as either hating all blacks or joining the naacp. there is a lot of ground in the middle. there are people who have subtle latent racism they're not even aware of. people who have no problem chatting with the black guy in class next to them at college, but would feel uncomfortable hanging out with his old friends in compton.
life isn't as simple as you want to make it. you need to go back to the commune dude... it was the only time you've ever seemed happy. you're miserable and pissed off 100% of the rest of the time and that's no way to live.
now go turn on your public enemy cd and convince yourself you REALLY know how it is for blacks. just remember that you actually don't.
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and on a separate note, seeing how you seem to speak as an expert on racism, have you ever experienced it firsthand? i'm just curious.
You sure act just like him... a fool!
i dont agree with him writing the book.
whats more sick is that the goldmans published it.
thus my slandering of the goldmans is in my view justified.
and don't you think his writing the book suggests he's guilty?
I think they framed a guilty man.
all the evidence suggests that both are what happened.
I wouldnt put it above OJ to murder someone. And I wouldnt put it above the LAPD especially near the time of the LA riots to be OVERTLY racist and unruly in their pursuit of crime
to me thats the best answer for the case. They framed a guilty man. This is for the murder case at least.
And it looks like he could have been framed again, or at least the victim of entrapment
and all those people who cheered him on, saying he was being framed because of his race...you think *he'd* hang out with black people? no....he'd just hang out with *rich* people. that situation was about money, not race, and that's what got him free.
so now, fast forward to the present...even if double jeopardy exists in the judicial system, i'm more interested in karma, and because of that i hope he ends up in jail the rest of his life.
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