UCLA Student tasered by campus pigs

ThumbingMyWay32

small town beck wrote:

Last week on CNN they had some white trash guy on there that took a cattle prod to his infant daughter. I didn't really see too many people getting up in arms about that and THAT was clearly a violation of her rights. Sweet jebus I am left wondering what people will do next :mad:

Which I suppose has people wondering why I posted this and thinking WTF does one have to with another besides the tasering which is actually what reminded me of that story I had read. I guess my point is that probably both the student and the police could have changed the outcome but this baby had no defenses, no choices. So maybe a revolution is in order but maybe we should be picking the battles in which to do so. Child abuse has become so commonplace that we don't even notice it anymore but taser an adult who can make their own choices and then we have a problem

We may not notice it like we once did because there seems to be a disease or illness that causes it. Hearing many of the recent rulings from the courts atleast it seems that way these days.

Vedderlution_Baby

ThumbingMyWay32 wrote:

Sweet. I need to pick up the strings myself. Sweep some unsuspecting beauty off her feet. Or get her in the sack... Or however it's supposed to go...

I burn my fingers every weekend over the grill anyway. Always causes a little edginess Monday and Tuesday.

I was pulling a pizza out of the oven (Dominos) when a fellow coworker bumped me. well that fucking pizza slid off the peeler (spatula) and landed cheese side up on my fucking fret hand. So no I got a wicked bad burn on my thumb and under it where six huge blisters currently throb and some minor ones on my index and middle finger. Nice. How long you been playing?








As for the poster whom brought up the story about the cattle prod. Sorry, but I just didn't see that. You should always post crazy ridiculous shit like that up on the board, just in case some of us missed it. And I really don't even know HOW to respond to that...my mind won't let me.

PJammer4life

How many of you are from Los Angeles, where excessive force by the police is and was a way of life? This was campus police. Excessive force. Cuff the kid, grab his feet, grab his arms, take him to the car. Tasing him in a library of students is not the best outcome. Do you want cops to have unlimited force in questioning and stopping people, cause innocent people are going to get detained as well as the guilty and violent. He clearly spoke English, we can tell that from his pained screams, but many in Los Angeles, cannot..how can they comply without being tased by trigger happy and scared police officers?? It raises lots of problems and dark scenarios.

ThumbingMyWay32

Vedderlution_Baby! wrote:

I was pulling a pizza out of the oven (Dominos) when a fellow coworker bumped me. well that fucking pizza slid off the peeler (spatula) and landed cheese side up on my fucking fret hand. So no I got a wicked bad burn on my thumb and under it where six huge blisters currently throb and some minor ones on my index and middle finger. Nice. How long you been playing?

Yeah. That sounds pretty bad. That's sick actually. The only thing I can relate to is I burned the top of my feet camping out down on the banks one time. Had these huge brown blisters full of fluid. Couldn't walk. Found a cinderblock i could put my feet in while I sat out in the sun. I can't believe I just pulled that memory out.

But no, I don't play. Well, I've attempted to from time to time, just never stick with it. Pops plays, and well at that. He's been known to piece a few PJ bars together.

SPEEDY MCCREADY

Vedderlution_Baby! wrote:

I was pulling a pizza out of the oven (Dominos) when a fellow coworker bumped me. well that fucking pizza slid off the peeler (spatula) and landed cheese side up on my fucking fret hand. So no I got a wicked bad burn on my thumb and under it where six huge blisters currently throb and some minor ones on my index and middle finger. Nice. How long you been playin







As for the poster whom brought up the story about the cattle prod. Sorry, but I just didn't see that. You should always post crazy ridiculous shit like that up on the board, just in case some of us missed it. And I really don't even know HOW to respond to that...my mind won't let me.

ouch!!!!!

ThumbingMyWay32

PJammer4life wrote:

How many of you are from Los Angeles, where excessive force by the police is and was a way of life? This was campus police. Excessive force. Cuff the kid, grab his feet, grab his arms, take him to the car. Tasing him in a library of students is not the best outcome. Do you want cops to have unlimited force in questioning and stopping people, cause innocent people are going to get detained as well as the guilty and violent. He clearly spoke English, we can tell that from his pained screams, but many in Los Angeles, cannot..how can they comply without being tased by trigger happy and scared police officers?? It raises lots of problems and dark scenarios.

Those people are called Illegals. And, by default, those folks are breaking the law reguardless.

But yeah, watch out for the black helicopters.

Vedderlution_Baby

I'm nearly crying but I just hit it (The solo that is). Atleast the first half before Slash goes apeshit on it. Fuck slash. Fucking maniac

ThumbingMyWay32

Vedderlution_Baby! wrote:

I'm nearly crying but I just hit it (The solo that is). Atleast the first half before Slash goes apeshit on it. Fuck slash. Fucking maniac

I believe the correct statement should have been "Fuck Axel."


No really... Fuck Axel.

soulsinging

small town beck wrote:

Last week on CNN they had some white trash guy on there that took a cattle prod to his infant daughter. I didn't really see too many people getting up in arms about that and THAT was clearly a violation of her rights. Sweet jebus I am left wondering what people will do next :mad:

Which I suppose has people wondering why I posted this and thinking WTF does one have to with another besides the tasering which is actually what reminded me of that story I had read. I guess my point is that probably both the student and the police could have changed the outcome but this baby had no defenses, no choices. So maybe a revolution is in order but maybe we should be picking the battles in which to do so. Child abuse has become so commonplace that we don't even notice it anymore but taser an adult who can make their own choices and then we have a problem

probly cos there wasnt a real time video of it posted online immediately after.

small town beck

soulsinging wrote:

probly cos there wasnt a real time video of it posted online immediately after.

Most likely. Also people are already pretty busy getting ready to watch the OJ show :rolleyes:

Pretty sad though http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06314/737181-85.stm

sapperskunk

Pain is hillarious! I love this shit. I've seriously spent an obscene amount of time watching this shit on youtube. Maybe I'm just a weirdo, but when a uniformed police officer asks me for some ID and I've done nothing wrong, I show it to them. But like I said I'm weird.

darkcrow

this was so fucked up. i cant beleive people are being so blase about it. i am at university and thankfully only specially trained police officers are allowed to use taser guns. the security at our uni are pretty cool. they are polite and do their job without being "pigs".

i have seen some fucked up shit but this was vile. every time the guy screamed it was...

i havent read any article about it ie. i have not read the victims statement or the security or the university.... i could undertsand the guy getting taken down if he started getting violent... but to taser him for not showing his id? there are ways to deal with stuff... dont just jump to the gun (any gun).

you think that we in the western world would be quite civil but some people instantly revert to a barbaric state....

enharmonic

Now, I like a good tazing just about as much as the next guy, and am probably one of the few people on this board who has actually been tazed...but I will say this.

They had this guy, and any threat he might have posed, neutralized after they hit him with the tazer the first time. They should have cuffed him, and carried him out. He was not attacking the police, and in fact demonstrated characteristic non-violent resistance. It was their responsibility to secure and remove him. If a person doesn't want to get up, you pick them up. If they kick or punch (which doesn't happen too often after you've been hit with 50,000 volts), you have other options available to you

1. Wrist lock
2. OC Spray
3. Hit him again with the tazer

These officers egged the subject on, which leads me to wonder if they are real police officers, or if UCLA has rent-a-cops?

No disrespect to anyone who might be a campus security officer, but having worked in the law enforcement profession, most of these guys who work on para-police departments are squirrels who couldn't make the cut for a regular department. Occsionally, you'll get lucky, and you'll have a retiree from a police department working at a college to supplement their pension.

It should have never come to this, and is quite a statement on the state of our society.

Scubascott

enharmonic wrote:

Now, I like a good tazing just about as much as the next guy, and am probably one of the few people on this board who has actually been tazed...but I will say this.

Really? What's it like?

What happens if you taze someone with a pacemaker?

Jammin909

UCLA student stunned by Taser plans suit

The UCLA student stunned with a Taser by a campus police officer has hired a high-profile civil rights lawyer who plans to file a brutality lawsuit.

The videotaped incident, which occurred after the student refused requests to show his ID card to campus officers, triggered widespread debate on and off campus Thursday about whether use of the Taser was warranted. It was the third in a recent series of local incidents captured on video that raise questions about arrest tactics.

Attorney Stephen Yagman said he plans to file a federal civil rights lawsuit accusing the UCLA police of "brutal excessive force," as well as false arrest. The lawyer also provided the first public account of the Tuesday night incident at UCLA's Powell Library from the student, Mostafa Tabatabainejad, a 23-year-old senior.

He said that Tabatabainejad, when asked for his ID after 11 p.m. Tuesday, declined because he thought he was being singled out because of his Middle Eastern appearance. Yagman said Tabatabainejad is of Iranian descent but is a U.S.-born resident of Los Angeles.

The lawyer said Tabatabainejad eventually decided to leave the library but when an officer refused the student's request to take his hand off him, the student fell limp to the floor, again to avoid participating in what he considered a case of racial profiling. After police started firing the Taser, Tabatabainejad tried to "get the beating, the use of brutal force, to stop by shouting and causing people to watch. Generally, police don't want to do their dirties in front of a lot of witnesses."

He said Tabatabainejad was hit by the Taser five times and suffered "moderate to severe contusions" on his right side.

UCLA officials declined to respond directly to Yagman's statements, saying they still were conducting their internal investigation of the incident.

The university said earlier, however, that Tabatabainejad was asked for his ID as part of a routine nightly procedure to make sure that everyone using the library after 11 p.m. is a student or otherwise authorized to be there. Campus officials have said the long-standing policy was adopted to ensure students' safety.

UCLA also said that Tabatabainejad refused repeated requests by a community service officer and regular campus police to provide identification or to leave. UCLA said the police decided to use the Taser to incapacitate Tabatabainejad only after the student urged other library patrons to join his resistance.

Some witnesses disputed that account, saying that when campus police arrived, Tabatabainejad had begun to walk toward the door.

In a prepared statement released late Thursday, UCLA's interim chancellor, Norman Abrams, urged the public to "withhold judgment" while the campus police department investigates. "I, too, have watched the videos, and I do not believe that one can make a fair judgment regarding the matter from the videos alone. I am encouraged that a number of witnesses have come forward and are participating in the investigation."

Meanwhile, student activists were organizing a midday rally today to protest the incident, and the Southern California office of the Council on American-Islamic Relations called for an independent investigation.

The incident follows the recent announcement that four of the campus police department's nearly 60 full-time sworn officers had won so-called Taser Awards granted by the manufacturer of the device to "law enforcement officers who save a life in the line of duty through extraordinary use of the Taser." The award stemmed from an incident in which officers subdued a patient who allegedly threatened staff at the campus' Neuropsychiatric Hospital with metal scissors.

Jeff Young, assistant police chief, declined to indicate whether any of the honored officers were among the several involved in Tuesday's incident.