UCLA Student tasered by campus pigs

musicismylife78musicismylife78 Posts: 6,116
edited November 2006 in A Moving Train
http://americablog.blogspot.com/2006/11/oh-my-god-ucla-student-tased-in.html

Check out that video!!

Youth must rise up now. You dont treat people like that. You dont taser american citizens for refusing to show ID.

A UCLA student was in the computer lab, he was asked by police in a random check to produce student id. He didnt. He was tasered. And tasered again. The kid appears to be Muslim.

Our world needs to change. This is our america right now. You will be tasered for being a different color.

We must set it off now! Rise! Rise!!

These pigs should be fired and the Chancellor of UCLA should apologize to the student and the community.

Give them a piece of your mind. Call UCLA!!

Interim Chancellor Norman Abrams
Telephone: 310-825-2151
Fax: 310-206-6030
Email: chancellor@conet.ucla.edu
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  • soulsingingsoulsinging Posts: 13,202
    this has been bouncing around our law schoo listserv. i have a pretty strong stomach i think, but this was difficult to watch...
  • adam42381adam42381 Posts: 2,505
    That pissed me off more than I thought possible. Absolute abuse of power. The students should have rioted immediately.
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  • "Laila Gordy, a fourth-year economics student who was present in the library during the incident, said police officers threatened to shoot her with a Taser when she asked an officer for his name and his badge number."



    "stand back or you're going to be shot with a taser too"

    All this caused by a police officer who decided the student wasn't moving fast enough for him.

    By the way, what would they had done before the days of tasers if someone refused to get up? Shot him.

    Oh, and one more thing, how do you expect someone to complete a function of movement when a taser makes voluntary movement possible?
  • I'm not a rocket scientist, (but I did sleep at a holiday in express last night) but I think I would have stood up after the cops told me to. HA

    Best part of the vid...

    "HERE'S YOUR FUCKING PATRIOT ACT" HAHAHAHAHHAAHAH Then... "FUCK OFF" to the cops...

    BRILLIANT> LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    laughing my ass off at "pigs"...

    didn't that go out in the 70's?

    :D

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  • yosi1yosi1 Posts: 3,272
    adam42381 wrote:
    That pissed me off more than I thought possible. Absolute abuse of power. The students should have rioted immediately.

    That's what I thought too. It didn't even make any sense. Why were they tasering that kid? This video was so fucked up I don't even know what to think.
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  • Thorns2010Thorns2010 Posts: 2,201
    He was mouthing off to the officers, swearing and being agressive in his tone. That and he was told several times that he would be tased again if he did not stand up.

    Now, I'm not say he deserved it, but he wasn't being very helpfull on his end.
  • yosi1yosi1 Posts: 3,272
    Thorns2010 wrote:
    He was mouthing off to the officers, swearing and being agressive in his tone. That and he was told several times that he would be tased again if he did not stand up.

    Now, I'm not say he deserved it, but he wasn't being very helpfull on his end.

    How could they expect him to stand up and move quickly after BEING TASED?
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  • Thorns2010 wrote:
    He was mouthing off to the officers, swearing and being agressive in his tone. That and he was told several times that he would be tased again if he did not stand up.

    Now, I'm not say he deserved it, but he wasn't being very helpfull on his end.


    No doubt about that. But in the article it stated that the student had already begun to head towards the door when an officer approached him and grabbed him by the arm. It was at that point he started to yell and be uncooperative.


    Also, what about the statement taken from the student who was threatened with a tazer when she asked an officer for his badge number?
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    http://americablog.blogspot.com/2006/11/oh-my-god-ucla-student-tased-in.html

    Check out that video!!

    Youth must rise up now. You dont treat people like that. You dont taser american citizens for refusing to show ID.

    A UCLA student was in the computer lab, he was asked by police in a random check to produce student id. He didnt. He was tasered. And tasered again. The kid appears to be Muslim.

    Our world needs to change. This is our america right now. You will be tasered for being a different color.

    We must set it off now! Rise! Rise!!

    These pigs should be fired and the Chancellor of UCLA should apologize to the student and the community.

    Give them a piece of your mind. Call UCLA!!

    Interim Chancellor Norman Abrams
    Telephone: 310-825-2151
    Fax: 310-206-6030



    calm down chief, i dont think "pigs" has been used in about 20 years at least, and i am not sure it is really appropriate? or maybe it just shows your immaturity so continue to use it if you dont want to be taken seriously kid.

    and the whole "rise, rise" thing and "youth must rise up now"??? every isolated incident doesnt need a revolution? i think your are slightly overreacting. granted i didnt watch the video, but i already know what is shows, and i am sure it is a gross example of over stepping boundaries and treating your fellow man like shit just becasue you can. but the revolution war cry you are letting out seems a little misplaced and immature?

    but hey, do what you want, and keep that spirit, you just might want to channel it in a better way

    peace
  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    yosi wrote:
    That's what I thought too. It didn't even make any sense. Why were they tasering that kid? This video was so fucked up I don't even know what to think.
    I'm speechless. Yea you could say the kid should have just cooperated the those cops are just dicks. A good cop would now how to get that kid out without starting a riot.

    Having said that, what the fuck did the kid do to deserve this in the first place?!?!? The more I think about it the more I get pissed.
  • 1) None of you know what happend at the very beginning of the video, reguardless of what the person who posted it says.

    2) Stand up when officers ask you to

    3) When a few officers are surrounded by a crowd tensions will rise. The fact an officer threatened to taser another bystander does not surprise me given the situation.

    4) Show your ID when officers ask you to

    5) Why didn't the officers like his attitude? The video does not show how he was acting prior to being tased so building an unknown story line is unnecessary.

    6) Do what the police say. You'll have your chance at justice later. The guy had what seemed to be near 70 witnesses. There was no need to be an idiot over and over and over again. Remember, in this country an incident like this makes millionaires.

    Minus the events leading up to being tased, which none of us are sure about, if this guy would have just done what the cops said the first time he would have avoided the remaining bullshit. If he has a legitimate case he would have a much better foundation to stand on just doing what the officers said. He had an overwhelming number of witnesses as said before. Seeing this video, by way of cameraphone, and calling for riots is just silly. I especially like the fact that someone say the guy had a darker skin tone and immediately referred to him as a Muslim. We aren't supposed to racially profile people, right? Good stuff.
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    Camden 5-28-06
    Washington, D.C. 6-22-08
  • cutback wrote:
    Having said that, what the fuck did the kid do to deserve this in the first place?!?!?

    You just answered your own question.
    "Sarcasm: intellect on the offensive"

    "What I lack in decorum, I make up for with an absence of tact."

    Camden 5-28-06
    Washington, D.C. 6-22-08
  • shmapshmap Posts: 374
    My god, his screams made me so nauseous. I couldn't believe what I was seeing...and he's supposed to get up and walk away after being tasered multiple times? Pick the kid up and take him away, don't abuse him further. That was absolutely horrifying.
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    cry baby
  • shmapshmap Posts: 374
    jlew24asu wrote:
    cry baby

    Wow, how empathic of you. Let someone turn a taser on you, and see how you like it. Thanks for your contribution to the dialogue.
  • Can someone explain to me the officer threatening violence to the student who asked him for his information?
  • shmap wrote:
    Wow, how empathic of you. Let someone turn a taser on you, and see how you like it. If you're not going to meaningfully contribute to the dialogue, why say anything at all?


    I thought it was pretty funny too.

    Everytime something like this happens you can count on hordes of liberals (i.e. - progressives, moderates, centrist, fence-riders, undecideds, neithers et al) calling for the heads of all public officials and defenders involved without knowing the entire story. Granted they even want to know the story in the first place.

    I believe Johnny Cash once said, "Cry, cry, cry..."
    "Sarcasm: intellect on the offensive"

    "What I lack in decorum, I make up for with an absence of tact."

    Camden 5-28-06
    Washington, D.C. 6-22-08
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    shmap wrote:
    Wow, how empathic of you. Let someone turn a taser on you, and see how you like it. Thanks for your contribution to the dialogue.


    I eat tasers for breakfast
  • Can someone explain to me the officer threatening violence to the student who asked him for his information?


    You don't yell and scream at cops about anything when you outnumber them 30 to 1 in that type of environment.


    Please don't debate the use of the words 'yell' and 'scream'. It's irrelevant. Wait till the situation has quieted. Use your head. I can only imagine what would have happend if a riot would have actually occurred. Of course mass violence at that point would have been encouraged. Funny stuff.
    "Sarcasm: intellect on the offensive"

    "What I lack in decorum, I make up for with an absence of tact."

    Camden 5-28-06
    Washington, D.C. 6-22-08
  • jlew24asu wrote:
    I eat tasers for breakfast


    God, if I were a woman...
    "Sarcasm: intellect on the offensive"

    "What I lack in decorum, I make up for with an absence of tact."

    Camden 5-28-06
    Washington, D.C. 6-22-08
  • shmapshmap Posts: 374
    I thought it was pretty funny too.

    Everytime something like this happens you can count on hordes of liberals (i.e. - progressives, moderates, centrist, fence-riders, undecideds, neithers et al) calling for the heads of all public officials and defenders involved without knowing the entire story. Granted they even want to know the story in the first place.

    I believe Johnny Cash once said, "Cry, cry, cry..."

    I assume you're not referring to me, since I did nothing of the sort. I do believe, however, that it's just a little crass to poke fun at the guy who was clearly in immense pain.
  • shmap wrote:
    I assume you're not referring to me, since I did nothing of the sort. I do believe, however, that it's just a little crass to poke fun at the guy who was clearly in immense pain.

    I'm not poking fun of the guy. I was poking fun at the remark the poster made. I don't know what the guy did to deserve or not deserve being tased. And, until I do, I sure as hell wont rush to judgement.
    "Sarcasm: intellect on the offensive"

    "What I lack in decorum, I make up for with an absence of tact."

    Camden 5-28-06
    Washington, D.C. 6-22-08
  • You don't yell and scream at cops about anything when you outnumber them 30 to 1 in that type of environment.


    Please don't debate the use of the words 'yell' and 'scream'. It's irrelevant. Wait till the situation has quieted. Use your head. I can only imagine what would have happend if a riot would have actually occurred. Of course mass violence at that point would have been encouraged. Funny stuff.



    I'm not debating the words yell and scream. I heard several occasions where students either asked for the information or said they were going to without yelling or screaming. Yes, there where plenty who yelled. But there were several others who protested without doing so.
  • I'm not debating the words yell and scream. I heard several occasions where students either asked for the information or said they were going to without yelling or screaming. Yes, there where plenty who yelled. But there were several others who protested without doing so.


    Well, I know one thing. If I were one of those cops, reguardless of the circumstances, and I only have a couple other "good guys" with me, my nerves would be railed with that many people around me causing that much of a uproar. An uproar clearly geared against me.
    "Sarcasm: intellect on the offensive"

    "What I lack in decorum, I make up for with an absence of tact."

    Camden 5-28-06
    Washington, D.C. 6-22-08
  • Well, I know one thing. If I were one of those cops, reguardless of the circumstances, and I only have a couple other "good guys" with me, my nerves would be railed with that many people around me causing that much of a uproar. An uproar clearly geared against me.


    None of which would have occured if the officer that grabbed Mostafa Tabatabainejad would have happened. But that's beside the point.


    The point is that the police, who have had training to deal with situations where they are going to be outnumbered and on the receving end of hostile attitudes reacted badly. I'm not calling for an uprising. I'm not even calling for the officers badges.
  • That video was really terrible to watch and now I wish I really hadn't as it sort of made me feel rather ill. As I don't know what happened prior to the video being made I can't say if the police's initial reaction was correct or overkill clearly though after they tasered him they couldn't really expect him to stand up and walk out of there??? Not ever having been tasered( and hoping not to be) I can't say how bad it is but it sounded pretty fucking awful so I doubt he was really ready to get up and walk away!!! So why keep tasering him and telling him to stand up??:confused: If the library's policy is that you must be prepared to show id ( and really is that SO bad???) than by using the library you are consenting to those rules HOWEVER that doesn't mean you should be tasered until you shit your pants and foam at the mouth!!!
  • None of which would have occured if the officer that grabbed Mostafa Tabatabainejad would have happened. But that's beside the point.


    The point is that the police, who have had training to deal with situations where they are going to be outnumbered and on the receving end of hostile attitudes reacted badly. I'm not calling for an uprising. I'm not even calling for the officers badges.

    I'll mail a quarter to Gainsville if you can pronounce Tabatabainejad. Smoothly, the first time, and no do-overs.
    "Sarcasm: intellect on the offensive"

    "What I lack in decorum, I make up for with an absence of tact."

    Camden 5-28-06
    Washington, D.C. 6-22-08
  • I'll mail a quarter to Gainsville if you can pronounce Tabatabainejad. Smoothly, the first time, and no do-overs.


    How bout you just stick to debating the points buddy.


    By the way, what does that have to do with anything? You think I'm sticking up for this guy just cause he has an arabic name?
  • How bout you just stick to debating the points buddy.


    LOL Jesus Christ. I've debated for two pages. It's getting stale. We'll all read about this again in a month or so. That's when the real debating will begin.

    And I've told you about this editing stuff while I'm posting. No, I'm trying to lighten the mood sinse we clearly had nothing to do with this. We've hit this from every side imaginable in 2 pages already. Who cares now... Just wait for the actually story to be released.
    "Sarcasm: intellect on the offensive"

    "What I lack in decorum, I make up for with an absence of tact."

    Camden 5-28-06
    Washington, D.C. 6-22-08
  • LOL Jesus Christ. I've debated for two pages. It's getting stale. We'll all read about this again in a month or so. That's when the real debating will begin.


    Yea yea yea. By your point a shooting would have been justified just as long as there was plenty of yelling done at the cops.
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