UCLA Student tasered by campus pigs

shmap

ThumbingMyWay32 wrote:

I thought it was pretty funny too.

Everytime something like this happens you can count on hordes of liberals (i.e. - progressives, moderates, centrist, fence-riders, undecideds, neithers et al) calling for the heads of all public officials and defenders involved without knowing the entire story. Granted they even want to know the story in the first place.

I believe Johnny Cash once said, "Cry, cry, cry..."

I assume you're not referring to me, since I did nothing of the sort. I do believe, however, that it's just a little crass to poke fun at the guy who was clearly in immense pain.

ThumbingMyWay32

shmap wrote:

I assume you're not referring to me, since I did nothing of the sort. I do believe, however, that it's just a little crass to poke fun at the guy who was clearly in immense pain.

I'm not poking fun of the guy. I was poking fun at the remark the poster made. I don't know what the guy did to deserve or not deserve being tased. And, until I do, I sure as hell wont rush to judgement.

Vedderlution_Baby

ThumbingMyWay32 wrote:

You don't yell and scream at cops about anything when you outnumber them 30 to 1 in that type of environment.


Please don't debate the use of the words 'yell' and 'scream'. It's irrelevant. Wait till the situation has quieted. Use your head. I can only imagine what would have happend if a riot would have actually occurred. Of course mass violence at that point would have been encouraged. Funny stuff.

I'm not debating the words yell and scream. I heard several occasions where students either asked for the information or said they were going to without yelling or screaming. Yes, there where plenty who yelled. But there were several others who protested without doing so.

ThumbingMyWay32

Vedderlution_Baby! wrote:

I'm not debating the words yell and scream. I heard several occasions where students either asked for the information or said they were going to without yelling or screaming. Yes, there where plenty who yelled. But there were several others who protested without doing so.

Well, I know one thing. If I were one of those cops, reguardless of the circumstances, and I only have a couple other "good guys" with me, my nerves would be railed with that many people around me causing that much of a uproar. An uproar clearly geared against me.

Vedderlution_Baby

ThumbingMyWay32 wrote:

Well, I know one thing. If I were one of those cops, reguardless of the circumstances, and I only have a couple other "good guys" with me, my nerves would be railed with that many people around me causing that much of a uproar. An uproar clearly geared against me.

None of which would have occured if the officer that grabbed Mostafa Tabatabainejad would have happened. But that's beside the point.


The point is that the police, who have had training to deal with situations where they are going to be outnumbered and on the receving end of hostile attitudes reacted badly. I'm not calling for an uprising. I'm not even calling for the officers badges.

small town beck

That video was really terrible to watch and now I wish I really hadn't as it sort of made me feel rather ill. As I don't know what happened prior to the video being made I can't say if the police's initial reaction was correct or overkill clearly though after they tasered him they couldn't really expect him to stand up and walk out of there??? Not ever having been tasered( and hoping not to be) I can't say how bad it is but it sounded pretty fucking awful so I doubt he was really ready to get up and walk away!!! So why keep tasering him and telling him to stand up?? If the library's policy is that you must be prepared to show id ( and really is that SO bad???) than by using the library you are consenting to those rules HOWEVER that doesn't mean you should be tasered until you shit your pants and foam at the mouth!!!

ThumbingMyWay32

Vedderlution_Baby! wrote:

None of which would have occured if the officer that grabbed Mostafa Tabatabainejad would have happened. But that's beside the point.


The point is that the police, who have had training to deal with situations where they are going to be outnumbered and on the receving end of hostile attitudes reacted badly. I'm not calling for an uprising. I'm not even calling for the officers badges.

I'll mail a quarter to Gainsville if you can pronounce Tabatabainejad. Smoothly, the first time, and no do-overs.

Vedderlution_Baby

ThumbingMyWay32 wrote:

I'll mail a quarter to Gainsville if you can pronounce Tabatabainejad. Smoothly, the first time, and no do-overs.

How bout you just stick to debating the points buddy.


By the way, what does that have to do with anything? You think I'm sticking up for this guy just cause he has an arabic name?

ThumbingMyWay32

Vedderlution_Baby! wrote:

How bout you just stick to debating the points buddy.

LOL Jesus Christ. I've debated for two pages. It's getting stale. We'll all read about this again in a month or so. That's when the real debating will begin.

And I've told you about this editing stuff while I'm posting. No, I'm trying to lighten the mood sinse we clearly had nothing to do with this. We've hit this from every side imaginable in 2 pages already. Who cares now... Just wait for the actually story to be released.

Vedderlution_Baby

ThumbingMyWay32 wrote:

LOL Jesus Christ. I've debated for two pages. It's getting stale. We'll all read about this again in a month or so. That's when the real debating will begin.

Yea yea yea. By your point a shooting would have been justified just as long as there was plenty of yelling done at the cops.

sponger

What's with the crappy view?

ThumbingMyWay32

Vedderlution_Baby! wrote:

Yea yea yea. By your point a shooting would have been justified just as long as there was plenty of yelling done at the cops.

Oh now you're just being liberal.

You should thank me. I'm one of the very few on this board that keeps the rest of you from patting yourselves on your collective backs thread after thread.

Good post Bill! You betcha Cindy! Great idea! You know it! Those dumb Republicans! They'll get theirs! Yes they will Tim! That's for sure Rob! La dee fuckin da...

ThumbingMyWay32

sponger wrote:

What's with the crappy view?

Now see, this is progress... Fair and balanced if you ask me.

trappedinmyradio

(1) you do what police officers tell you to do.
(2) when you post something like this, please characterize it correctly. the student/individual was resisting and being uncooperative and he was told what to do and what consequence he would face if he did not comply. the individual was acting in a weird manner, and screaming and swearing at police officers. he got what he deserved.

ThumbingMyWay32

trappedinmyradio wrote:

(1) you do what police officers tell you to do.
(2) when you post something like this, please characterize it correctly. the student/individual was resisting and being uncooperative and he was told what to do and what consequence he would face if he did not comply. the individual was acting in a weird manner, and screaming and swearing at police officers. he got what he deserved.

Right on, right on...

Vedderlution_Baby

ThumbingMyWay32 wrote:

Well, I know one thing. If I were one of those cops, reguardless of the circumstances, and I only have a couple other "good guys" with me, my nerves would be railed with that many people around me causing that much of a uproar. An uproar clearly geared against me.

And what is this saying ThumbingMyWay32? I want you to break down this thing that you have typed and tell me exactly what you meant by it. And if you gotta resort to another political label well then, fucking forget it.

ThumbingMyWay32

ThumbingMyWay32 wrote:

Well, I know one thing. If I were one of those cops, reguardless of the circumstances, and I only have a couple other "good guys" with me, my nerves would be railed with that many people around me causing that much of a uproar. An uproar clearly geared against me.

Um.. Ok. Where to start?

I thought this was pretty cut and dry.

If I were a cop, surrounded by a hostile crowd, my nerves would be railed. This means I would be on high alert and probably feel threatened.

In closing, this would explain my apparent use of the phrase "back up or you will be tased" which was directed at the young lady.

Vedderlution_Baby

ThumbingMyWay32 wrote:

Um.. Ok. Where to start?

I thought this was pretty cut and dry.

If I were a cop, surrounded by a hostile crowd, my nerves would be railed. This means I would be on high alert and probably feel threatened.

In closing, this would explain my apparent use of the phrase "back up or you will be tased" which was directed at the young lady.

Actually, the back up or you will be tased was directed at a male in a white shirt. I don't think the cop stepped out of bounds on that one. The guy was making very quick and irrational movements with his hand. I actually give the cops props for not tasing him or taking him into custody.


After trying to research this article on various sites I'm just gonna saying trying to debate whether what the cops did is right or wrong is fruitless. There is simply not enough evidence, nor enough statements from witnesses to really be able to base a logical and strong argument on. (by the way, it seems like a lot of the news channel sites just copied and pasted the orignial story. Slackers.)

And sorry for the snappiness. I burnt the shit out of my hand yesterday and I had just learned how to play the Sweet Child O' Mine solo...so I'm in a pissy mood. Fuck it. I might just give a go anyhow.

small town beck

Last week on CNN they had some white trash guy on there that took a cattle prod to his infant daughter. I didn't really see too many people getting up in arms about that and THAT was clearly a violation of her rights. Sweet jebus I am left wondering what people will do next :mad:

Which I suppose has people wondering why I posted this and thinking WTF does one have to with another besides the tasering which is actually what reminded me of that story I had read. I guess my point is that probably both the student and the police could have changed the outcome but this baby had no defenses, no choices. So maybe a revolution is in order but maybe we should be picking the battles in which to do so. Child abuse has become so commonplace that we don't even notice it anymore but taser an adult who can make their own choices and then we have a problem

ThumbingMyWay32

Vedderlution_Baby! wrote:

Actually, the back up or you will be tased was directed at a male in a white shirt. I don't think the cop stepped out of bounds on that one. The guy was making very quick and irrational movements with his hand. I actually give the cops props for not tasing him or taking him into custody.


After trying to research this article on various sites I'm just gonna saying trying to debate whether what the cops did is right or wrong is fruitless. There is simply not enough evidence, nor enough statements from witnesses to really be able to base a logical and strong argument on. (by the way, it seems like a lot of the news channel sites just copied and pasted the orignial story. Slackers.)

And sorry for the snappiness. I burnt the shit out of my hand yesterday and I had just learned how to play the Sweet Child O' Mine solo...so I'm in a pissy mood. Fuck it. I might just give a go anyhow.

Sweet. I need to pick up the strings myself. Sweep some unsuspecting beauty off her feet. Or get her in the sack... Or however it's supposed to go...

I burn my fingers every weekend over the grill anyway. Always causes a little edginess Monday and Tuesday.