Religion has caused more

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death than any other concept in human history. Thoughts on this?
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PJfanFORlife wrote:death than any other concept in human history. Thoughts on this?
I think nationalism has religion beat by quite a bit.0 -
Commy wrote:I think nationalism has religion beat by quite a bit.0
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PJfanFORlife wrote:but aren't some of nationalist beleifs stemed from religion?
There's plenty of resources on this planet to feed and clothe everybody...its when nationalist ideas come in that the few have much and the many have little.
And remember Hitler and Pol Pot and every US president since WWII, not to mention the world wars themsleves. All of these were done with nationlist ideology driving the instigators and players.0 -
If you follow religion you are strictly told not to kill anyone but if you follow your country you are asked to kill people.Yet people call religion evil...It may be the devil or it may be the Lord
But you're gonna have to serve somebody.
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Carlos D wrote:If you follow religion you are strictly told not to kill anyone but if you follow your country you are asked to kill people.Yet people call religion evil...0
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PJfanFORlife wrote:yeah but people have killed in the name of religion for centuries, the crusades, mulsim wars, the genocide against the native americans of this country, etc
people also freed slaves and marched for civil rights in the name of religion... don't forget that.0 -
Religion has certainly caused more damage than music. Some things the religious groups trying to censor music fail to see.Believe me, when I was growin up, I thought the worst thing you could turn out to be was normal, So I say freaks in the most complementary way. Here's a song by a fellow freak - E.V0
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PJfanFORlife wrote:death than any other concept in human history. Thoughts on this?
I think it's a crock for several reasons.
First of all, religion never caused anything. People cause things. If there weren't religion, they would have found something else to fight over.
Secondly, here's a unique concept for you - EVERYONE DIES. Religion did not cause them to die. They were going to die anyway.The only people we should try to get even with...
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.0 -
any concept that humanity chooses to adopt that is devisive...be it naotionalism, religion, etc....has caused death. it is the idea of there only being 'one right way'...that oftentimes has caused ruination. also, humans simply being greedy fuckers, deciding they like this land over here...and if you're on it...well, we'll push you out of the way anyway....not even based on any grand 'concept' at all.......but more base, animalistic nature...brute force of taking over the more desirable territory. nature has done a fine job of elimating our #s too...plagues and disease.......so while it's terrible that humans have chosen time and again to extinguish others for selfish reasons....i would not lay blame soley at the feet of religion.Stay with me...
Let's just breathe...
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know1 wrote:
here's a unique concept for you - EVERYONE DIES. Religion did not cause them to die. They were going to die anyway.
my thoughts exactly.make sure the fortune that you seek...is the fortune that you need0 -
I'd say ownership is a concept that has caused the most death throughout history. But religion and nationalism are up there on the list as well.
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religion and guns don't kill, people do.
Have to make sure the safety is on.0 -
GREED has caused more death than anything else in human history. It can take many forms (religious, nationalistic, political, etc) but at the core it's all about the Green Disease...I smile, but who am I kidding...0
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Whenever I watch TV and see those poor starving kids all over the world, I can't help but cry. I mean I'd love to be skinny like that but not with all those flies and death and stuff."
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even mariah carey gets itmake sure the fortune that you seek...is the fortune that you need0 -
If religion is "a set of beliefs concerning the nature and purpose of the universe" (random house dictionary) then yes it has caused more deaths. More people died in the 20th Century than any previous one as a result of some people's "set of beliefs..."
I think the following people's (Stalin, Mao, Hitler, Pol Pot and the other luminaries.) set of beliefs caused quite a bit of deaths.0 -
know1 wrote:Secondly, here's a unique concept for you - EVERYONE DIES. Religion did not cause them to die. They were going to die anyway.
the bigest cause for deaths are
1) colonisation (the only good native is a dead native and all that)
2) wars between nations
3) religion based killings, fights and genocidesI have faced it, A life wasted...
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Religion is too easy of a scapegoat. It's a numbers game. Most people who fought wars were religious, so it must be religion's fault, right? I don't think so. I think you have to look deeper at the true cause of evil, which is simply greed, whether for power, money, whatever. In most cases, religion was along for the ride while people perpetrated these evils.Break the sky and tell me what it's for0
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true. the most destructive thing in human history,.. but it's ironic that's it's also yielded some of the most amazing things in history (architecture, art, armies - doubly ironic
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id rocks wrote:Religion is too easy of a scapegoat. It's a numbers game. Most people who fought wars were religious, so it must be religion's fault, right? I don't think so. I think you have to look deeper at the true cause of evil, which is simply greed, whether for power, money, whatever. In most cases, religion was along for the ride while people perpetrated these evils.
Religion isn't always just 'along for the ride'. People already mentioned the Crusades. And a lot of colonization involves spreading Christianity.
Anyway, I'd like to give a shout to the bubonic plague, most notably Black Death.if you wanna be a friend of mine
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