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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,573
    I've never understood the "shoving it down our throats" argument. no one is Clockwork Orange-ing people into watching trans content. 

    just ignorant people fearful of what they don't understand. 
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,887
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    I've never understood the "shoving it down our throats" argument. no one is Clockwork Orange-ing people into watching trans content. 

    just ignorant people fearful of what they don't understand. 
    Well there's right.  It's absurd.  
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,229
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    I've never understood the "shoving it down our throats" argument. no one is Clockwork Orange-ing people into watching trans content. 

    just ignorant people fearful of what they don't understand. 
    clockwork orange-ing is a great verb.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,415
    You gotta love the purposeful display of their “Christianity” with their ability to dog whistle. ‘Murikkka, yea! And apparently, Faux hasn’t learned a thing.


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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,887
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    You gotta love the purposeful display of their “Christianity” with their ability to dog whistle. ‘Murikkka, yea! And apparently, Faux hasn’t learned a thing.


    Cruelty is the point these days. 
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,839
    I just read that NYT article. I actually don't think her joke was that bad.

    "After coming out of video showing a drum-beating mixed-race crowd chanting about Neely’s death, McEnany said “Justice or burn it down — well at least they have rhythm,” evoking a stereotype about Black people."

    According to that, they were apparently using a drum as part of the chant, and she commented about the rhythm. I haven't seen the video, but based on the description, you have a dream-beating protest and someone comments on the rhythm, that's not that big of a deal. Find something else to get upset over. 
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,573
    it's a dog whistle
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  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,474
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    it's a dog whistle
    All they have are dogwhistles 

    And lies
    And conspiracy theories 
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,415
    mace1229 said:
    I just read that NYT article. I actually don't think her joke was that bad.

    "After coming out of video showing a drum-beating mixed-race crowd chanting about Neely’s death, McEnany said “Justice or burn it down — well at least they have rhythm,” evoking a stereotype about Black people."

    According to that, they were apparently using a drum as part of the chant, and she commented about the rhythm. I haven't seen the video, but based on the description, you have a dream-beating protest and someone comments on the rhythm, that's not that big of a deal. Find something else to get upset over. 
    Who said I was upset? Just pointing out facts.
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  • Merkin Baller
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    edited May 2023
    Bentleyspop said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    it's a dog whistle
    All they have are dogwhistles 

    And lies
    And conspiracy theories 
    They also have stochastic terrorism. 

    We're seeing more & more of it every day. 
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,839
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    mace1229 said:
    I just read that NYT article. I actually don't think her joke was that bad.

    "After coming out of video showing a drum-beating mixed-race crowd chanting about Neely’s death, McEnany said “Justice or burn it down — well at least they have rhythm,” evoking a stereotype about Black people."

    According to that, they were apparently using a drum as part of the chant, and she commented about the rhythm. I haven't seen the video, but based on the description, you have a dream-beating protest and someone comments on the rhythm, that's not that big of a deal. Find something else to get upset over. 
    Who said I was upset? Just pointing out facts.
    I wasn't actually referring to you. Just the people "blasting" her.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,887
    Merkin Baller said:
    Bentleyspop said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    it's a dog whistle
    All they have are dogwhistles 

    And lies
    And conspiracy theories 
    They also have stochastic terrorism. 

    We're seeing more & more of it every day. 
    the common term is 'Twitter'.  Don't get all "book learning" on us.  
  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,818
    mrussel1 said:
    Merkin Baller said:
    Bentleyspop said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    it's a dog whistle
    All they have are dogwhistles 

    And lies
    And conspiracy theories 
    They also have stochastic terrorism. 

    We're seeing more & more of it every day. 
    the common term is 'Twitter'.  Don't get all "book learning" on us.  

    Hard disagree... twitter has it's upside, although it's getting harder & harder to find in recent years.... Fox News on the other hand... 
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,839
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    it's a dog whistle
    From the description I took it as her mocking the protest itself, not the protestors or their race.

    Which I agree with to some extent. Innocent people are getting beaten and killed every day. Elderly people are sucker punched, beaten and sometimes killed for absolutely nothing with almost no attention given to it at all. This doesn't seem like someone who was out to beat or kill someone. Seems like he tried to take things into his own hands and took it too far.

    Just seems like an odd case to make it your calling and stop the trains over. That's how I interpret that comment, and I would agree. I didn't take it as a racial jab.
  • The Juggler
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    Subtle racism is still racism. 
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,588
    prob should have kept your mouth shut given the looming smartmatic trial....


     
    Lachlan Murdoch explains settlement, says no change at Fox
    By DAVID BAUDER
    Today

    NEW YORK (AP) — Fox News paid $787 million to settle a recent lawsuit on its reporting after the 2020 election to avoid a divisive trial and lengthy appeals process, its parent company's chief executive said on Tuesday.

    Lachlan Murdoch, executive chairman and CEO of Fox Corp., also noted that a Delaware judge “severely limited” Fox's defenses against Dominion Voting Systems, which said the network defamed it by airing bogus charges of election fraud that it knew was untrue.

    Fox Corp. announced Tuesday that it had lost $50 million the previous three months, which it attributed to the lawsuit settlement. Murdoch, who answered questions from financial analysts, was speaking in public for the first time since the case ended and Fox fired its most popular anchor, Tucker Carlson.

    Murdoch said viewers, and investors, should expect no change in direction from Fox News.

    “We made the business decision to resolve this dispute and avoid the acrimony of a divisive trial and multi-year appeal process, a decision clearly in the best interests of the company and its shareholders,” he said.

    Fox still believes it was properly exercising its First Amendment rights to report on newsworthy fraud allegations made by former President Donald Trump, even though that defense was shot down in a pre-trial court ruling in the Dominion case, Murdoch said.

    That's important, since Murdoch said Fox intends to use the same defense against a similar lawsuit by another elections technology company, Smartmatic. That case is not expected to go to trial until at least 2025, he said.

    Despite being asked directly about Carlson's exit, Murdoch didn't mention the former prime-time host's name and referred to his reign obliquely. Fox has not explained why it cut ties with Carlson.

    “There's no change in programming strategy at Fox News,” he said. “It's obviously a successful strategy. As always, we are adjusting our programming and our lineup and that's what we continue to do.”

    Fox and Dominion Voting Systems reached a $787 million settlement Tuesday in the voting machine company’s defamation lawsuit, averting a trial. (April 18)

    Although hurt by the Carlson exit, Fox News remains the leading cable news network.

    Fox has lost viewers following Carlson's firing. Last week's substitute host, Lawrence Jones, reached between 1.28 million and 1.7 million last week in a time slot where Carlson usually drew around 3 million, the Nielsen company said.

    Yet Fox has gained more than 40 new advertisers in that hour, the network said, confirming a report in Variety. Advertisers like Gillette, Scott's Miracle Gro and Secret deodorant that had considered Carlson's show a toxic environment have signed on.


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  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,111
    mickeyrat said:
    prob should have kept your mouth shut given the looming smartmatic trial....


     
    Lachlan Murdoch explains settlement, says no change at Fox
    By DAVID BAUDER
    Today

    NEW YORK (AP) — Fox News paid $787 million to settle a recent lawsuit on its reporting after the 2020 election to avoid a divisive trial and lengthy appeals process, its parent company's chief executive said on Tuesday.

    Lachlan Murdoch, executive chairman and CEO of Fox Corp., also noted that a Delaware judge “severely limited” Fox's defenses against Dominion Voting Systems, which said the network defamed it by airing bogus charges of election fraud that it knew was untrue.

    Fox Corp. announced Tuesday that it had lost $50 million the previous three months, which it attributed to the lawsuit settlement. Murdoch, who answered questions from financial analysts, was speaking in public for the first time since the case ended and Fox fired its most popular anchor, Tucker Carlson.

    Murdoch said viewers, and investors, should expect no change in direction from Fox News.

    “We made the business decision to resolve this dispute and avoid the acrimony of a divisive trial and multi-year appeal process, a decision clearly in the best interests of the company and its shareholders,” he said.

    Fox still believes it was properly exercising its First Amendment rights to report on newsworthy fraud allegations made by former President Donald Trump, even though that defense was shot down in a pre-trial court ruling in the Dominion case, Murdoch said.

    That's important, since Murdoch said Fox intends to use the same defense against a similar lawsuit by another elections technology company, Smartmatic. That case is not expected to go to trial until at least 2025, he said.

    Despite being asked directly about Carlson's exit, Murdoch didn't mention the former prime-time host's name and referred to his reign obliquely. Fox has not explained why it cut ties with Carlson.

    “There's no change in programming strategy at Fox News,” he said. “It's obviously a successful strategy. As always, we are adjusting our programming and our lineup and that's what we continue to do.”

    Fox and Dominion Voting Systems reached a $787 million settlement Tuesday in the voting machine company’s defamation lawsuit, averting a trial. (April 18)

    Although hurt by the Carlson exit, Fox News remains the leading cable news network.

    Fox has lost viewers following Carlson's firing. Last week's substitute host, Lawrence Jones, reached between 1.28 million and 1.7 million last week in a time slot where Carlson usually drew around 3 million, the Nielsen company said.

    Yet Fox has gained more than 40 new advertisers in that hour, the network said, confirming a report in Variety. Advertisers like Gillette, Scott's Miracle Gro and Secret deodorant that had considered Carlson's show a toxic environment have signed on.


    So the advertisers are A OK with the content they just had a problem with the talking head.  Good to know.
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,598
    Looks like Elon Musk is giving Tucker a show on his totally non partisan app. 
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  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,111
    The Juggler said:
    Looks like Elon Musk is giving Tucker a show on his totally non partisan app. 
    Well at least he won't have the reach he had on FOX
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,598
    static111 said:
    The Juggler said:
    Looks like Elon Musk is giving Tucker a show on his totally non partisan app. 
    Well at least he won't have the reach he had on FOX
    Wouldn't be a surprise to see Elon fudge the numbers to make it seem like he does
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