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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,908
    OnWis97 said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    Fox News is state media
    Essentially.  Trump would literally be trying to create state media by Fox bails him out by serving him.  They're going to look as traitorous as the GOP that has been so dedicated to protecting him.

    The internet and Fox News are the primary difference between this and Nixon.  Nixon apologists could not avoid the truth without pretty much shutting the world out.  Now, nearly half of the country can immerse themselves in current events coverage that won't say one negative thing about Trump.  If Mueller's investigation is truly damning, I don't know that the 40% will be moved one bit.  And I sure don't think that Fox News will admit that it was wrong, much less complicit to treason, this whole time.
    Fox News averages 3-4 million viewers a day. Over 120 million people voted in the last election.

    30% of his base won't be moved. 10% will--that is who matters.
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  • NewJPageNewJPage Posts: 3,310
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    JimmyV said:
    "I feel compelled to explain why I have to leave. Four decades ago, I took an oath as a newly commissioned officer. I swore to "support and defend the Constitution," and that oath did not expire when I took off my uniform. Today, I feel that Fox News is assaulting our constitutional order and the rule of law, while fostering corrosive and unjustified paranoia among viewers. Over my decade with Fox, I long was proud of the association. Now I am ashamed.

    In my view, Fox has degenerated from providing a legitimate and much-needed outlet for conservative voices to a mere propaganda machine for a destructive and ethically ruinous administration. When prime-time hosts--who have never served our country in any capacity--dismiss facts and empirical reality to launch profoundly dishonest assaults on the FBI, the Justice Department, the courts, the intelligence community (in which I served) and, not least, a model public servant and genuine war hero such as Robert Mueller--all the while scaremongering with lurid warnings of "deep-state" machinations-- I cannot be part of the same organization, even at a remove. To me, Fox News is now wittingly harming our system of government for profit.

    As a Russia analyst for many years, it also has appalled me that hosts who made their reputations as super-patriots and who, justifiably, savaged President Obama for his duplicitous folly with Putin, now advance Putin's agenda by making light of Russian penetration of our elections and the Trump campaign. Despite increasingly pathetic denials, it turns out that the "nothing-burger" has been covered with Russian dressing all along. And by the way: As an intelligence professional, I can tell you that the Steele dossier rings true--that's how the Russians do things.. The result is that we have an American president who is terrified of his counterpart in Moscow."


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    So, does anyone still think the PTape doesn’t exist or is the jury still out?
    Pre tape most likely does not exist. Dossier does not even claim it is real. It' probably disinformation 
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  • tbergstbergs Posts: 9,818
    Fox must be jealous today. Trying to convince people to get CNN out of airports.

    http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2018/03/23/how-cnn-airport-force-feeds-partisan-content-to-unsuspecting-travelers.html
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,641
    edited March 2018
    Interesting take on Zucker calling out Fox as a propoganda machine...

    "if Jeff Zucker thinks he’s going to win this war, he’s mistaken. His CNN doesn’t have shows that are pure opinion-asserters the way Fox News has. Fox can drown out Zucker’s objections with ceaseless primetime derision."

    CNN president Jeff Zucker called Fox News “a pure propaganda machine” that “does incredible disservice to this country.”


    https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/fox-news-jeff-zucker-cnn-mcdougal-123417125.html

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  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Posts: 10,772
    This is what happens when you espouse a rhetoric of feat, hate, ignorance, and lies.....

    Advertisers Ditching Laura Ingraham's Show Over Attack On Parkland Survivor 
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,908
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,061
    The Juggler said:
    Wow! Just wow.
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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    Fabio!!!

    hilarious
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    Lerxst1992 said:
    Interesting take on Zucker calling out Fox as a propoganda machine...

    "if Jeff Zucker thinks he’s going to win this war, he’s mistaken. His CNN doesn’t have shows that are pure opinion-asserters the way Fox News has. Fox can drown out Zucker’s objections with ceaseless primetime derision."

    CNN president Jeff Zucker called Fox News “a pure propaganda machine” that “does incredible disservice to this country.”


    https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/fox-news-jeff-zucker-cnn-mcdougal-123417125.html

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    He's 100% right
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,908

    "Shut up and dribble."


    "Next up, we're going to talk to FABIO about California's problems and if it can be saved!"



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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,060
    What next?  Fabio for governor?

    A few things Mr. Fabulous forgot to mention regarding problems with California:

    -A governor who is pro fracking.
    -It's aquifers have been lowered to the point where the central valley has actually sunk.
    -102 million trees have died since 2010.
    -Developers are planning 50,000 new home to be built in the 10 miles between Folsom and El Dorado Hills, further putting a stress on water resources and adding to congestion in the US 50 corridor.
    -Beaches that were once clean and bright now becoming darkened with oil in many places.
    - Continued loss of species habitat.

    Yeah, those homeless are a real problem, aren't they Mr. Fabio?
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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,099
    The right is really amping up the ridiculous anti-California stuff. Apparently we’re still salvageable up here in Oregon. Although the ice is thin!
  • KatKat Posts: 4,872
    Go Beavers said:
    The right is really amping up the ridiculous anti-California stuff. Apparently we’re still salvageable up here in Oregon. Although the ice is thin!
    I think trump is pushing that idea about California. They didn't bow and curtsy enough when he went there recently to look at border wall ideas. 


    Falling down,...not staying down
  • SmellymanSmellyman Posts: 4,524
    The Juggler said:
    Can the sixth biggest economy in the world be saved?
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,061
    Smellyman said:
    The Juggler said:
    Can the sixth biggest economy in the world be saved?
    Not if they don’t build the wall and Mexico pays for it.
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,579
    lol where will Ingraham turn to now these kids are mopping the floor with her ugly ass !!
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,061
    Britain is considering revoking the broadcast license of RT, the Russian propaganda outlet. If only we could do the same with Faux. But you know 2A.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,061
    And Faux playbook is being copied and it’s even more sinister. Seems Team Trump Treason has his very own Joseph Geobbles.

    http://money.cnn.com/2018/04/01/media/sinclair-anchor-promos/index.html
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  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,641
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    And Faux playbook is being copied and it’s even more sinister. Seems Team Trump Treason has his very own Joseph Geobbles.

    http://money.cnn.com/2018/04/01/media/sinclair-anchor-promos/index.html


    This is extremely dangerous for our democracy.
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,908
    Lerxst1992 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    And Faux playbook is being copied and it’s even more sinister. Seems Team Trump Treason has his very own Joseph Geobbles.

    http://money.cnn.com/2018/04/01/media/sinclair-anchor-promos/index.html


    This is extremely dangerous for our democracy.
    Ha...Trump even tweeted in support of Sinclair this morning, declaring them "far superior" to CNN and MSNBC. 

    WHAT COUNTRY IS THIS???????????!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!?!
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,061
    The Juggler said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    And Faux playbook is being copied and it’s even more sinister. Seems Team Trump Treason has his very own Joseph Geobbles.

    http://money.cnn.com/2018/04/01/media/sinclair-anchor-promos/index.html


    This is extremely dangerous for our democracy.
    Ha...Trump even tweeted in support of Sinclair this morning, declaring them "far superior" to CNN and MSNBC. 

    WHAT COUNTRY IS THIS???????????!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!?!
    My local rock station reported on this this morning using our local newscasters as the example of reading the Sinclair statement. These are newscasters that have been here forever, reporting on local polictics and being fair and objwective in their reporting on both sides of the aisle. Now? They've lost all credibility because of their corporate task master making them read this or be fired.

    I think I've woken up in 1930s Italy or 2000s Venezuela.
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,579
    Lerxst1992 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    And Faux playbook is being copied and it’s even more sinister. Seems Team Trump Treason has his very own Joseph Geobbles.

    http://money.cnn.com/2018/04/01/media/sinclair-anchor-promos/index.html


    This is extremely dangerous for our democracy.
    It’s already too late !
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    https://www.rawstory.com/2018/04/take-watch-fox-host-howard-kurtz-panic-graphic-shows-fox-news-least-trusted-network/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
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    And the hits just keep on coming........


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    http://money.cnn.com/2018/04/16/media/sean-hannity-conflicts-of-interest/index.html

     Monday's disclosure demonstrates just how tight-knit the pro-Trump media world is. Not only does Hannity advise Trump, not only does Trump promote Hannity's show, not only does Hannity attack Trump's critics -- Hannity and Trump even share the same lawyer.

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  • Kev - Coat and KeysKev - Coat and Keys Posts: 357
    The problem with the latest news, for me, is that Hannity being dodgy and ending up in prison is not the end he deserves.
    His nonsense needs to be ridiculed by every person in all parts of life, not just the Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert types. 
    Then all the societal damage he has done is over.

    And then he can rot in some cell.

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