Was Obama Born In Kenya? Why Is His Campaign Hiding Behind Court Orders?

DriftingByTheStorm

This isn't a Obama-bash thread.
I'm just asking a question here.
I honestly couldn't give two shits if Obama or McCain wins.
They are both evil twats.

But I'm listening to a segment of the Alex Jones show from Tuesday, with Webster G. Tarpley as a guest.

Tarpley refered to this website, obamacrimes.com ...

the author of the site is trying, IN COURT, to get Obama's campaign to disclose PROOF OF NATURAL BORN CITIZENSHIP, and Obama's campaign, INSTEAD OF PRODUCING THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE, IS FILING PROTECTIVE MOTIONS WITH THE COURT.

Now, WHY IN FUCKS NAME WOULD YOU DO THAT !?!

And why in fucks name, if you were the goddamn president elect, wouldn't you just get the CIA to fake you a birth cert?

WTF?

I'm so confused by this.
Bizzare-o.

Also, neo-con Jerome Corsi, the man who wrote that anti-obama smear book you libs love (and which Eddie talked trash about, after the DC show), The Obama Nation, WAS JUST ARRESTED IN KENYA ... apparently he was there to do some press for his book, AND DO RESEARCH LOOKING FOR A KENYA BIRTH CERTIFICATE ON OBAMA.

And suddenly he is ARRESTED !?!

WTF ???

Anyone?
It really does seem to be a valid dispute, on the surface anyhow.

???

jimed14

People really need to open their eyes and quit the conspiracy theories ... (not necessarily you DBTS although, a quick google search would have debunked this pretty quickly)


http://fightthesmears.com/articles/5/birthcertificate

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2008/jun/27/obamas-birth-certificate-part-ii/

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html


As for the people who thinked he forged it ... you didn't read ...

Politifact ....

"If this document is forged, a U.S. senator and his presidential campaign have perpetrated a vast, long-term fraud. They have done it with conspiring officials at the Hawaii Department of Health, the Cook County (Ill.) Bureau of Vital Statistics, the Illinois Secretary of State’s office, the Attorney Registration & Disciplinary Commission of the Supreme Court of Illinois and many other government agencies."


Factcheck.org ....

"FactCheck.org staffers have now seen, touched, examined and photographed the original birth certificate. We conclude that it meets all of the requirements from the State Department for proving U.S. citizenship. Claims that the document lacks a raised seal or a signature are false. We have posted high-resolution photographs of the document as "supporting documents" to this article. Our conclusion: Obama was born in the U.S.A. just as he has always said."


By the way, do you know the Ron Paul Supporters actually questioned if JOHN MCCAIN was not a US Citizen???

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/06/obama-birth.html

Dirtie_Frank

I thought if one of your parents were American that would make you American. For example when I was in the Army a few friends had babies with German wifes they were considered American. I do not support Obama but this would have been vetted a long time ago.

JD Sal

Drifting - seriously, this is akin to saying Obama is muslim and we're all going to be reading the Koran in 4 years. Come on now. Do some fact checks.

DriftingByTheStorm

JD Sal wrote:

Drifting - seriously, this is akin to saying Obama is muslim and we're all going to be reading the Koran in 4 years. Come on now. Do some fact checks.

Okay.
I don't think it's akin to anything of the sort.
I'm not making any assumptions about this.

My primary question, which raises a lot of weird thoughts, is WHY IS THE CAMPAIGN ASKING FOR A MOTION TO DELAY DISCOVERY?

WHAT purpose could that possibly serve?

The guy is suing in court for proof of eligibility for high office,
you and several others here have linked to alleged evidence proving this, WHY IS HIS CAMPAIGN NOT IMMEDIATELY PROVIDING THIS IN COURT?

It just doesn't make any fucking since.

THAT is all i am saying.

???

RolandTD20Kdrummer

Obama is not in the business of taking orders but rather.... deploying more troops...er...I mean giving orders....rather than taking them.

in any event...you had me at evil twats...

JD Sal

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

in any event...you had me at evil twats...

Alex Jones?

RolandTD20Kdrummer

JD Sal wrote:

Alex Jones?

I dunno....is he bombing people too?

DriftingByTheStorm

JD Sal wrote:

Alex Jones?

just give me an answer as to why you think his lawyers would want to delay discovery, in something that is allegedly (by his supporters) open & closed easy to prove simple?

I'm not picking fights,
i'm asking a legitimate question.

Why would they stall on this?
If nothing else, it is just stupid politics.

Anon

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

This isn't a Obama-bash thread.
I'm just asking a question here.
I honestly couldn't give two shits if Obama or McCain wins.
They are both evil twats.

Well at least we have established that the 'evil twat' was...
Born in the u.s.a., I was born in the u.s.a.
I was born in the u.s.a., born in the u.s.a.

JD Sal

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

Okay.
I don't think it's akin to anything of the sort.
I'm not making any assumptions about this.

My primary question, which raises a lot of weird thoughts, is WHY IS THE CAMPAIGN ASKING FOR A MOTION TO DELAY DISCOVERY?

WHAT purpose could that possibly serve?

The guy is suing in court for proof of eligibility for high office,
you and several others here have linked to alleged evidence proving this, WHY IS HIS CAMPAIGN NOT IMMEDIATELY PROVIDING THIS IN COURT?

It just doesn't make any fucking since.

THAT is all i am saying.

???

Maybe because a) this is ridiculous and b) Obama's campaign is a little busy at the moment. Do you honestly think that a person not born in this country would really be able to become President? If there was any truth to this, the Republicans would have found a way to disclose it long before the election was only 3 weeks away.

jimed14

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

just give me an answer as to why you think his lawyers would want to delay discovery, in something that is allegedly (by his supporters) open & closed easy to prove simple?

I'm not picking fights,
i'm asking a legitimate question.

Why would they stall on this?
If nothing else, it is just stupid politics.

did you see my post? or, would you rather continue to wonder about outlandish conspiracy theories?

Anon

JD Sal wrote:

Do you honestly think that a person not born in this country would really be able to become President? If there was any truth to this, the Republicans would have found a way to disclose it long before the election was only 3 weeks away.

Sounds reasonable to me.

DriftingByTheStorm

jimed14 wrote:

did you see my post? or, would you rather continue to wonder about outlandish conspiracy theories?

Yes.
I saw your post.
And my question is, if you can find his birth certificate on the internet, why in fucks name would his defense council and entire campaign have to ask for a several week stall in court in order to produce something so trivial?

And JD Sal,
i don't want to go down deep-dark-conspiracy lane,
but with regards to this "elections 3 weeks away thing", it ALMOST makes me wonder if this was not a contingency plan excuse for martial law, to be used IF needed.

IF they suddenly announced Obama as an illlegitimate candidate, do you think there would be riots across America?

I dunno.
I'd just rather wait and see what comes of this court case.
Otherwise, it IS all just rampant speculation.

Anon

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

This isn't a Obama-bash thread.
I'm just asking a question here.
I honestly couldn't give two shits if Obama or McCain wins.
They are both evil twats.

And Drifting, you say it's not an obama bash thread, but you still revert to insults and then you wonder why people fire up.

Take out the 'evil twats' comment, and i agree it's not an obama bash thread.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

And my question is, if you can find his birth certificate on the internet, why in fucks name would his defense council and entire campaign have to ask for a several week stall in court in order to produce something so trivial?

It might start an exodus flow of American people expecting something he can deliver on.

best to keep expectations low from the get go...

RolandTD20Kdrummer

Pj_Gurl wrote:

And Drifting, you say it's not an obama bash thread, but you still revert to insults and then you wonder why people fire up.

Take out the 'evil twats' comment, and i agree it's not an obama bash thread.

but...but... that's the best part!

DriftingByTheStorm

Pj_Gurl wrote:

And Drifting, you say it's not an obama bash thread, but you still revert to insults and then you wonder why people fire up.

Take out the 'evil twats' comment, and i agree it's not an obama bash thread.

It is NOT an obama bash thread.
I think both candidates are equally vile.
I should not have to censor that comment.
The point is this is not a partisan thread.

And JIMMED14,
just for shits and giggles, what do you think of this? We could go all day with my source your source. Why is the Obama campaign trying to delay discovery on this? It's just silly.

kenny olav

I don't fucking care. Even if he wasn't born in this country,

IT DOES NOT FUCKING MATTER.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

It would matter if he gets chopped due to a technical bombshell... imagine that?!

President Biden anyone?

jimed14

jimed14 wrote:

People really need to open their eyes and quit the conspiracy theories ... (not necessarily you DBTS although, a quick google search would have debunked this pretty quickly)


http://fightthesmears.com/articles/5/birthcertificate

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2008/jun/27/obamas-birth-certificate-part-ii/

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html


As for the people who thinked he forged it ... you didn't read ...

Politifact ....

"If this document is forged, a U.S. senator and his presidential campaign have perpetrated a vast, long-term fraud. They have done it with conspiring officials at the Hawaii Department of Health, the Cook County (Ill.) Bureau of Vital Statistics, the Illinois Secretary of State’s office, the Attorney Registration & Disciplinary Commission of the Supreme Court of Illinois and many other government agencies."


Factcheck.org ....

"FactCheck.org staffers have now seen, touched, examined and photographed the original birth certificate. We conclude that it meets all of the requirements from the State Department for proving U.S. citizenship. Claims that the document lacks a raised seal or a signature are false. We have posted high-resolution photographs of the document as "supporting documents" to this article. Our conclusion: Obama was born in the U.S.A. just as he has always said."


By the way, do you know the Ron Paul Supporters actually questioned if JOHN MCCAIN was not a US Citizen???

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/06/obama-birth.html

nuff said