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That was my first reaction too, but after hearing that it was a hunting knife, and realizing the guy had probably been stabbed like 10 times before anyone knew what was happening...he didn't have a chance, best to get the fuck away from the attacker....
holy o'fuck this is craziness...I feel horrible for the family :( And the witnesses...imagine seeing that shit? :(
exactly.
His poor family.
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This is messed up. Those passengers are gonna be screwed up for awhile after seeing something like that.
I've seen studies that prove mixing bacon and maple syrup cause this kind of fucked up mental state and it's intensified by what is known as the "mullet effect".
Ummm.... Boredom and being cold do not cause mental illness. People are people are people, no matter where you are, and therefore there are fucked up people everywhere and nice kind people everywhere.
And for the record, if any weather would drive me crazy, it would be hot and humid. I was so sick of the heat in Thailand that when I was coming home, I walked across the tarmac in Washington DC in short sleeves and LOVED it. All the flight attendants thought I was mental!
Terrifying. I've been on Greyhound busses so many times. And unfortunately will have to keep using them as they are often the only mode of transportation I have to and from school.
you couldn't swing if you were hangin' from a palm tree in a hurricane.
This is messed up. Those passengers are gonna be screwed up for awhile after seeing something like that.
I've seen studies that prove mixing bacon and maple syrup cause this kind of fucked up mental state and it's intensified by what is known as the "mullet effect".
you forgot to mention igloos, sled dogs and beer. Shows what you know
about Canadian culture.
Eh?
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this is one of the most disturbing acts of random violence i have read of in a long while. :( i first heard about it yesterday on the news during lunch, but didn't get the full story. this guy HAS to be mentally disturbed! just thinking about it gives me horrible chills and i cannot even imagine what that poor young man suffered. :( :( :( NO one should ever have to suffer such a fate. the human ability to torture is probably our lowest point, ever. absolutely repulsive. heart and thoughts for the young man, and his devasted family...
this is one of the most disturbing acts of random violence i have read of in a long while. :( i first heard about it yesterday on the news during lunch, but didn't get the full story. this guy HAS to be mentally disturbed! just thinking about it gives me horrible chills and i cannot even imagine what that poor young man suffered. :( :( :( NO one should ever have to suffer such a fate. the human ability to torture is probably our lowest point, ever. absolutely repulsive. heart and thoughts for the young man, and his devasted family...
I'm glad somebody here shares my absolute horror over this incident. This is so bad I wouldn't be able to joke about it--as I mentioned in an earlier post, it sickened everyone in my family yesterday. It's one of the most horrible tragedies I have ever heard of...
How many people were on this bus? Seriously, nobody could fucking knock the shit out of this guy before he got to carving the head off???
You all have to take into consideration that the attack happened at about 8:30pm, people were sleeping, super chilled out or in their own world. Then all in the sudden, they hear a bloodcurdling scream, still, by then, it takes a few seconds or more to come to realize that a) someone is screaming on the bus, and b) where is that person located.
Then to turn around and see the attack, by then, this complete asshole maniac has probably plunge the Rambo Knife into his victim a dozen times. At that point, the young man is totally dead.
On a Greyhound bus, it is a very tight and constricted space, you cannot expect someone on that bus to have their wits about them and think about going towards this bloody animal and try to stop him. Fuck no! Game over!
They all did the right thing and hauling ass out of there. The bravest thing that they did do was to block the doorway to prevent that fucker from escaping and causing more harm.
All I can say is that boy who died is in heaven now and the only thing I'm thankful for is that the murder took place AT THE BACK OF THE BUS. Can you imagine if he did that at the front of the bus? How would people could have escaped then? And mind, there were several children on that bus too.
A horrible story. I hope the murderer goes to prison in solitary confinement for the rest of his natural life. Don't give him mental help because in solitary confinement, it's just him and his demons.
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I feel for this guy's family. To have to imagine that happening to a loved one - it's just awful. :(
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You all have to take into consideration that the attack happened at about 8:30pm, people were sleeping, super chilled out or in their own world. Then all in the sudden, they hear a bloodcurdling scream, still, by then, it takes a few seconds or more to come to realize that a) someone is screaming on the bus, and b) where is that person located.
Then to turn around and see the attack, by then, this complete asshole maniac has probably plunge the Rambo Knife into his victim a dozen times. At that point, the young man is totally dead.
On a Greyhound bus, it is a very tight and constricted space, you cannot expect someone on that bus to have their wits about them and think about going towards this bloody animal and try to stop him. Fuck no! Game over!
They all did the right thing and hauling ass out of there. The bravest thing that they did do was to block the doorway to prevent that fucker from escaping and causing more harm.
All I can say is that boy who died is in heaven now and the only thing I'm thankful for is that the murder took place AT THE BACK OF THE BUS. Can you imagine if he did that at the front of the bus? How would people could have escaped then? And mind, there were several children on that bus too.
A horrible story. I hope the murderer goes to prison in solitary confinement for the rest of his natural life. Don't give him mental help because in solitary confinement, it's just him and his demons.
exactly.
given the details of this attack, it sure sounds like the guy was rather manic in the process, so yea....imagine facing that horror before you 'judge' others for not acting. i would guess seeing what they saw :eek:...total shock, and also probably far better to guage if they could've 'helped' at all. let's not turn a horrible tragedy, a disgusting attack into blame on eyewitnesses. it's just all too repulsive......
*edit - forget 'manic'....i recal it being said he was 'robotic'...but just meaning, i am sure he must've been fuckin' SCARY as hell!
I read that the victim was only 5' 4" .....and that this fuckhead lunatic was three times his size. But he doesn't look that big, to me.
I'm sure with a huge hunting knife in his hand, he looked quite large and formidable.
Man, that poor guy.
Edit: Now I read that the attacker was over 6 feet tall and was heavy set. Tim McLean was 5' 4" 120 lbs. What the fuck!
What, this douchebag couldn't find someone bigger to attack? Not to mention it was a surprise attack, no warning ....no nothing; while McLean was relaxing with his eyes close and listening to music or text messaging his girlfriend. Fuckin' weasel....fuckin' coward!
I hope they kick his cowardly, demented ass down a flight of stairs.
I read that the victim was only 5' 4" .....and that this fuckhead lunatic was three times his size. But he doesn't look that big, to me.
I'm sure with a huge hunting knife in his hand, he looked quite large and formidable.
Man, that poor guy.
it wouldn't matter if the attacker was 5'4" and the victim 3x his size....a surprise attack, when one is asleep no less! and with a huge hunting knife, i think ANYone would be scared, and yes, the victim had next to no chance. :( senseless tragedy. 22 years old.....
One of the links says this guy was charged with second-degree murder. Second-degree?!?
What did he have to do to make first-degree, wear the victim's severed head like a hat?
the guys obiously not all there and I believe that due to his alleged "insanity", it makes it second degree....unless it comes out he planned it and had a grudge or something against this poor kid.
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"I'm at least half a bum" Rocky Balboa
it wouldn't matter if the attacker was 5'4" and the victim 3x his size....a surprise attack, when one is asleep no less! and with a huge hunting knife, i think ANYone would be scared, and yes, the victim had next to no chance. :( senseless tragedy. 22 years old.....
I know. I wasn't insinuating anything about that. I'm just trying to sift through all the different stories regarding this and also trying to point out how much of sick fucking coward this guy is.
One of the links says this guy was charged with second-degree murder. Second-degree?!?
What did he have to do to make first-degree, wear the victim's severed head like a hat?
Canada doesn't have the death penalty, so its prison or a mental institution. I hope its prison because sometimes people do crazy shit just to be doing it, not because they're mentally ill.
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Also, the father is the murdered boy is trying to get in contact with his wife, the young man's mother. She's on a cruise right now. Can you imagine the horror she will face once she learns of her son's horrible death while she's on an Alaskan Cruise?
And yeah, when i found out the slight size of the victim, and the size of the murderer, it pissed me off even more. What a cowardly mental punk ass he is.
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Lokks like a good time to start the obvious death penalty debate
I am generally against the death penalty, but i would personally flip the switch on this fucking maniac
Horrific doest even come close to describing this madness
This was one of the first thoughts through my head....the knee jerk reactions that always follow a shocking event. I hope my country is above getting back into this debate, but I think it's going to become an issue again over this...
This was one of the first thoughts through my head....the knee jerk reactions that always follow a shocking event. I hope my country is above getting back into this debate, but I think it's going to become an issue again over this...
I can't argue with that...
But I don't think a time of great distress over an isolated incident is the time to make rash decisions with grave future implications....I assume you're American, you should know this
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exactly.
His poor family.
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...a lover and a fighter.
"I'm at least half a bum" Rocky Balboa
http://www.videosift.com/video/Obamas-Message-To-American-Indians
Edmonton, AB. September 5th, 2005
Vancouver, BC. April 3rd, 2008
Calgary,AB. August 8th, 2009
maybe we need to bump the "for the kid who died in a fire last night" thread?
:(
If I opened it now would you not understand?
ahhhh youre right. we should, I searched for the thread but couldnt find it.
thanks
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...a lover and a fighter.
"I'm at least half a bum" Rocky Balboa
http://www.videosift.com/video/Obamas-Message-To-American-Indians
Edmonton, AB. September 5th, 2005
Vancouver, BC. April 3rd, 2008
Calgary,AB. August 8th, 2009
I've seen studies that prove mixing bacon and maple syrup cause this kind of fucked up mental state and it's intensified by what is known as the "mullet effect".
Ummm.... Boredom and being cold do not cause mental illness. People are people are people, no matter where you are, and therefore there are fucked up people everywhere and nice kind people everywhere.
And for the record, if any weather would drive me crazy, it would be hot and humid. I was so sick of the heat in Thailand that when I was coming home, I walked across the tarmac in Washington DC in short sleeves and LOVED it. All the flight attendants thought I was mental!
you forgot to mention igloos, sled dogs and beer. Shows what you know
about Canadian culture.
Eh?
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I'm a number that doesn't count
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the nothing ventured - the nothing feigned
Umm, it's probably about 80 degrees in that part of Manitoba this time of year, so your statement is idiotic.
Let's just breathe...
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I'm glad somebody here shares my absolute horror over this incident. This is so bad I wouldn't be able to joke about it--as I mentioned in an earlier post, it sickened everyone in my family yesterday. It's one of the most horrible tragedies I have ever heard of...
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horrific. absolutely horrific.
RIP.
You all have to take into consideration that the attack happened at about 8:30pm, people were sleeping, super chilled out or in their own world. Then all in the sudden, they hear a bloodcurdling scream, still, by then, it takes a few seconds or more to come to realize that a) someone is screaming on the bus, and b) where is that person located.
Then to turn around and see the attack, by then, this complete asshole maniac has probably plunge the Rambo Knife into his victim a dozen times. At that point, the young man is totally dead.
On a Greyhound bus, it is a very tight and constricted space, you cannot expect someone on that bus to have their wits about them and think about going towards this bloody animal and try to stop him. Fuck no! Game over!
They all did the right thing and hauling ass out of there. The bravest thing that they did do was to block the doorway to prevent that fucker from escaping and causing more harm.
All I can say is that boy who died is in heaven now and the only thing I'm thankful for is that the murder took place AT THE BACK OF THE BUS. Can you imagine if he did that at the front of the bus? How would people could have escaped then? And mind, there were several children on that bus too.
A horrible story. I hope the murderer goes to prison in solitary confinement for the rest of his natural life. Don't give him mental help because in solitary confinement, it's just him and his demons.
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Gruesome. Barbaric!
What the fuck!
How could anyone do such a thing!?!?!?!
Noted.
I feel for this guy's family. To have to imagine that happening to a loved one - it's just awful. :(
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exactly.
given the details of this attack, it sure sounds like the guy was rather manic in the process, so yea....imagine facing that horror before you 'judge' others for not acting. i would guess seeing what they saw :eek:...total shock, and also probably far better to guage if they could've 'helped' at all. let's not turn a horrible tragedy, a disgusting attack into blame on eyewitnesses. it's just all too repulsive......
*edit - forget 'manic'....i recal it being said he was 'robotic'...but just meaning, i am sure he must've been fuckin' SCARY as hell!
Let's just breathe...
I am myself like you somehow
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http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/Man-beheaded-bus-Canada-The-Canadian-Press-Winnipeg-Free-Press-James-Turner/ss/events/wl/073108cadecapitation/s:/ap/20080801/ap_on_re_ca/canada_bus_stabbing/im:/080801/481/c4c7f2eef9a642e794d60d9ad603126e/;_ylt=ArIT6W2qPMXTzQ7xOUa6QrI5bg8F#photoViewer=/080801/481/c4c7f2eef9a642e794d60d9ad603126e
http://www.nowpublic.com/world/update-sleeping-man-stabbed-beheaded-manitoba-bus-front-tourists-victim-tim-mclean-attacker-vincent-li-1
I read that the victim was only 5' 4" .....and that this fuckhead lunatic was three times his size. But he doesn't look that big, to me.
I'm sure with a huge hunting knife in his hand, he looked quite large and formidable.
Man, that poor guy.
Edit: Now I read that the attacker was over 6 feet tall and was heavy set. Tim McLean was 5' 4" 120 lbs. What the fuck!
What, this douchebag couldn't find someone bigger to attack? Not to mention it was a surprise attack, no warning ....no nothing; while McLean was relaxing with his eyes close and listening to music or text messaging his girlfriend. Fuckin' weasel....fuckin' coward!
I hope they kick his cowardly, demented ass down a flight of stairs.
it wouldn't matter if the attacker was 5'4" and the victim 3x his size....a surprise attack, when one is asleep no less! and with a huge hunting knife, i think ANYone would be scared, and yes, the victim had next to no chance. :( senseless tragedy. 22 years old.....
Let's just breathe...
I am myself like you somehow
One of the links says this guy was charged with second-degree murder. Second-degree?!?
What did he have to do to make first-degree, wear the victim's severed head like a hat?
for the least they could possibly do
the guys obiously not all there and I believe that due to his alleged "insanity", it makes it second degree....unless it comes out he planned it and had a grudge or something against this poor kid.
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...a lover and a fighter.
"I'm at least half a bum" Rocky Balboa
http://www.videosift.com/video/Obamas-Message-To-American-Indians
Edmonton, AB. September 5th, 2005
Vancouver, BC. April 3rd, 2008
Calgary,AB. August 8th, 2009
I know. I wasn't insinuating anything about that. I'm just trying to sift through all the different stories regarding this and also trying to point out how much of sick fucking coward this guy is.
Canada doesn't have the death penalty, so its prison or a mental institution. I hope its prison because sometimes people do crazy shit just to be doing it, not because they're mentally ill.
Shit, what a way for them to find out.
http://watch.ctv.ca/news/latest/horrific-ride/#clip71137
And yeah, when i found out the slight size of the victim, and the size of the murderer, it pissed me off even more. What a cowardly mental punk ass he is.
First PJ Show: March 20, 1994 | Ann Arbor | Crisler Arena
I am generally against the death penalty, but i would personally flip the switch on this fucking maniac
Horrific doest even come close to describing this madness
This was one of the first thoughts through my head....the knee jerk reactions that always follow a shocking event. I hope my country is above getting back into this debate, but I think it's going to become an issue again over this...
i assume your from Canada?
debates are always healthy for society...
I can't argue with that...
But I don't think a time of great distress over an isolated incident is the time to make rash decisions with grave future implications....I assume you're American, you should know this