Man Beheaded and Gutted On Greyhound Bus

DriftingByTheStormDriftingByTheStorm Posts: 8,684
edited July 2008 in A Moving Train
Horror on Canadian bus as seat mate beheaded
40-year-old arrested after grisly slaying aboard Manitoba-bound Greyhound


Uh.
WHAT THA FUCK !?!

WINNIPEG, Manitoba - A traveler aboard a Greyhound bus repeatedly stabbed and then decapitated his seat mate, pausing during the savage attack in central Canada to display the head to passengers who had fled in horror, witnesses said Thursday.

A 40-year-old man was arrested shortly after the grisly slaying Wednesday night aboard a bus traveling from Edmonton, Alberta, to Winnipeg, Manitoba, Royal Canadian Mounted Police Sgt. Steve Colwell told reporters Thursday.

Police apprehended the suspect when he broke a bus window and tried to escape, Colwell said. A motive had not been determined. Authorities declined to identify the suspect or the victim, and provided few details about the attack.

But passenger Gernet Caton said the victim, who appeared to be about 19, was sleeping with headphones on when his seat mate suddenly began stabbing him repeatedly.

"We heard this bloodcurdling scream and turned around, and the guy was standing up, stabbing this guy repeatedly, like 40 or 50 times," Caton said from a hotel in Brandon, Manitoba, where he and other horrified passengers were taken.

'Like he was at the beach'
Caton said the driver stopped the bus as the savagery progressed and passengers scrambled to get off. He said the suspect then began methodically carving up the man's body.

"When he was attacking him, he was calm ... like he was at the beach," said Caton. "There was no rage or, or anything. He was just like a robot stabbing the guy."

The bus driver, Caton and a trucker at the scene re-boarded to see what was happening.

Caton said he saw the suspect had the victim on the floor of the bus and "was cutting his head off and pretty much gutting him" with a large hunting knife.

The attacker turned toward them and the three men quickly left the bus, blocking the door as the attacker slashed at them through an opening. The three secured the door to prevent the man from fleeing. Caton said the driver disabled the vehicle after the attacker tried to drive it away.

As the three guarded the door with a crow bar and a hammer, the attacker went back to the body and calmly came to the front of the bus to show off the head.

Taunting police
Fellow passenger Cody Olmstead said the man "dropped the head and went back and started cutting the body." Olmstead said the man later taunted police and dropped the head in front of them.

Greyhound spokeswoman Abby Wambaugh said 37 passengers and one driver were on the bus.

The victim had been on the bus since Edmonton. Caton said the attacker boarded the bus in Brandon, Manitoba, about 80 miles west of Portage La Prairie.

The suspect had been on the bus about an hour and initially did not sit near the victim, Caton said.

"He sat in the front at first, everything was normal," Caton said.

"We went to the next stop and he got off and had a smoke with another young lady there. When he got on the bus again, he came to the back near where I was sitting.

"He put his bags in the overhead compartment. He didn't say a word to anybody. He seemed totally normal," Caton said. "About a half an hour later, we heard this bloodcurdling scream."

Public Safety Minister Stockwell Day called the attack bizarre, but did not discuss details, saying he did not want to jeopardize the investigation.

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  • SongburstSongburst Posts: 1,195
    That's pretty fucked up.

    The kid was only 19 too. I have no absolutely patience for shit like this. One of the cops on the scene should have accidentally shot him 10 times in the head when he tried to flee.
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  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    I've been in Greyhound stations... which convinvced me to never step onto a Greyhound bus.
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  • Cosmo wrote:
    I've been in Greyhound stations... which convinvced me to never step onto a Greyhound bus.

    I took a Greyhound bus once, about 2 hours after peaking on LSD.

    I remember going blank at the station, and nearly missing my departure.
    Then i remember just zoning out with my headphones on, listening to "she makes me wanna die" by Tricky, and "Where Do i Begin" by the Chemical Brothers ... among other strangely morbid techno tracks ... just staring out the window.

    I think i was about 19 too.
    Which just makes this weird.

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  • guitar_daveyguitar_davey Posts: 111
    My girlfriend and I heard about this while I was home for lunch today...she cried when she heard about it and I've been shaking ever since...

    We were both really excited about seeing Radiohead and Eddie next week in Montreal, but this has really taken some of the sheen off our impending summer vacation for the time being...

    As bad as things like war, poverty, school shootings and random violence are, I can honestly say that nothing I have heard in the news for a long time has shaken me to the core like this...

    Tragic, horrible, disgusting, sickening...I can't even find the words to describe this tragedy...

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  • FinsburyParkCarrotsFinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    Gruesome. I wonder if this attacker has any previous convictions or psychiatric history, and if so, what was assessed to be his level of risk to the public. If the system's seen to be at fault, the implications could be political.



    In other news - not necessarily unrelated, for all we know - what happened with that story of the series of right feet turning up on the beach in Vancouver BC?
  • yellowled24yellowled24 Posts: 3,118
    This is the sort of thing that makes me glad not to live in America....
    "....and was very surprised to see that he didnt actually have a recipe for anus-ankle soup." - Big Ed
  • FinsburyParkCarrotsFinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    This is the sort of thing that makes me glad not to live in America....


    Well, it happened in Canada. If it had been in the States, at least someone might have had a gun, to shoot the attacker.
  • SongburstSongburst Posts: 1,195
    Well, it happened in Canada. If it had been in the States, at least someone might have had a gun, to shoot the attacker.

    And 4 innocent bystanders while they were at it.
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  • Cree NationsCree Nations Posts: 2,247
    Yes this is fucked up. Happened on a bus leaving Edmonton (3 hours South of here) for Manitoba.
    Not sure the exact details but they had a guy on tv talking about how he was sitting in front of where it happened. All of a sudden everyone heard this blood curtaling (poor sp.) scream and this "big guy" was stabbing this other guy sitting next to him (who was sleeping and listening to his IPOD). Guy in front (the interviewee) freaked and took off to the front of the bus. Essentially everyone got off and left this guy in there to finish what he was doing (cowards) and that is when he beheaded the kid, then brought the head to the front of the bus and showed everyone...at this time though they all had the bus door blocked and wouldnt let him out until the police arrived.

    ...crazy
    EDIT: This guy also said though that the attacker pulled out this great big "rambo style" knife and started stabbing him like a robot so I dont know if I am accurate to call those people cowards and I take that back
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,497
    This is the sort of thing that makes me glad not to live in America....


    Um...what?
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  • FinsburyParkCarrotsFinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    Songburst wrote:
    And 4 innocent bystanders while they were at it.


    I was being ironic. ;)
  • yellowled24yellowled24 Posts: 3,118
    Well, it happened in Canada. If it had been in the States, at least someone might have had a gun, to shoot the attacker.
    I remember watching Bowling for Colombine, and cant remember the stance on guns in America and Canada...arent Canadians allowed to have guns, and Americans can??

    In Australia, if something like that happened, I think we would all die of shock, its just so rare for something as horrific to occur here.
    Of course we get stabbings and hostage situations, but this is just fairly barbaric and disgusting...the poor victims family :(
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  • SongburstSongburst Posts: 1,195
    I was being ironic. ;)
    Haha. This is no time for irony. I'm close enough to the border that I can hear hear people in Minnesota stroking their guns as we speak.
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  • yellowled24yellowled24 Posts: 3,118
    Um...what?
    huh?
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  • Kilgore_TroutKilgore_Trout Posts: 7,334
    god... this stuff fascinates the hell out of me... i have the most morbid curiosity for gruesome murders like this and the frame of mind of these murderers... what exists in one person that restrains them from horrible thoughts of murder that does not exist in these mad men??... incredibly sad and creepy story to think that you could just be sitting there minding your own business and sleeping and all of a sudden your gutted like fish... i cant even imagine... definite correlation in the fact that so many of these derranged serial killers are from canada, wisconsin, siberia, etc... cold boring places are not good
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  • FinsburyParkCarrotsFinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    Songburst wrote:
    Haha. This is no time for irony. I'm close enough to the border that I can hear hear people in Minnesota stroking their guns as we speak.

    Every time is a time for irony.
  • SongburstSongburst Posts: 1,195
    sgossard3 wrote:
    god... this stuff fascinates the hell out of me... i have the most morbid curiosity for gruesome murders like this and the frame of mind of these murderers... what exists in one person that restrains them from horrible thoughts of murder that does not exist in these mad men??... incredibly sad and creepy story to think that you could just be sitting there minding your own business and sleeping and all of a sudden your gutted like fish... i cant even imagine... definite correlation in the fact that so many of these derranged serial killers are from canada, wisconsin, siberia, etc... cold boring places are not good

    Haha. Says the man from Illinois.

    Or are you trying to say we should keep our heads up when SGOSSARD3 is about?

    Cold places are only boring when it's warm out don't you know?
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  • Kilgore_TroutKilgore_Trout Posts: 7,334
    Songburst wrote:
    Haha. Says the man from Illinois.

    Or are you trying to say we should keep our heads up when SGOSSARD3 is about?

    Cold places are only boring when it's warm out don't you know?
    hey we have john wayne gacy... didnt mean to leave IL out of it :D

    but dalmer and gein were both from WI and ive definitely come across other in my research from up north...

    i guess the thought of murder so far beyond my grasp... thats why ive always been so fascinated by it... strictly from a psychological aspect... i cant stand to see corpses or anything like that
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  • coachchriscoachchris Kelowna, British Columbia, Canada Posts: 749
    I remember watching Bowling for Colombine, and cant remember the stance on guns in America and Canada...arent Canadians allowed to have guns, and Americans can??

    In Australia, if something like that happened, I think we would all die of shock, its just so rare for something as horrific to occur here.
    Of course we get stabbings and hostage situations, but this is just fairly barbaric and disgusting...the poor victims family :(


    If you remember Bowling for Colombine you would also remember the scene where Michael Moore just walks into houses in Windsor without knocking. Everyone's doors were unlocked. Shit like this doesn't happen in Canada atleast not in my 30 years of living here. Perhaps I'm sensitive to this at the moment but I'm somewhat embarrassed to be compared to the US as far as fucked up shit is concerned.

    Again, sorry for the rant but to think people aren't horrified by this is furthest from the case here. Everyone I know is talking about how disturbing this is and how embarrased we are that this took place in Canada :(
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  • SongburstSongburst Posts: 1,195
    sgossard3 wrote:
    hey we have john wayne gacy... didnt mean to leave IL out of it :D

    but dalmer and gein were both from WI and ive definitely come across other in my research from up north...

    i guess the thought of murder so far beyond my grasp... thats why ive always been so fascinated by it... strictly from a psychological aspect... i cant stand to see corpses or anything like that

    We mostly get crimes of passion up here -- not too many full-on serial killers. 87% of murders in Thunder Bay over the last 40 years are the result of someone getting their lighter stolen.
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  • Kilgore_TroutKilgore_Trout Posts: 7,334
    Songburst wrote:
    We mostly get crimes of passion up here -- not too many full-on serial killers. 87% of murders in Thunder Bay over the last 40 years are the result of someone getting their lighter stolen.
    understandable... im quite passionate of my lighter too
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  • coachchriscoachchris Kelowna, British Columbia, Canada Posts: 749
    Songburst wrote:
    We mostly get crimes of passion up here -- not too many full-on serial killers. 87% of murders in Thunder Bay over the last 40 years are the result of someone getting their lighter stolen.

    This is so true....I moved from the good ol Tbay seven years ago ;) We're known for like Laurie Bombenek "Run Bambi Run" not shit this disturbing. Winnipeg is a stop before Thunder Bay. This could have happened 8 hours later and been at home!
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  • SongburstSongburst Posts: 1,195
    coachchris wrote:
    This is so true....I moved from the good ol Tbay seven years ago ;) We're known for like Laurie Bombenek "Run Bambi Run" not shit this disturbing. Winnipeg is a stop before Thunder Bay. This could have happened 8 hours later and been at home!

    I'll never forgive network television for showing a bridge from Duluth to Superior with the caption "Thunder Bay, Canada" on it in the Bambi Bembenek mini-series.

    Good on you for the hip quote in your sig too.
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  • LikeAnOceanLikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    How many people were on this bus? Seriously, nobody could fucking knock the shit out of this guy before he got to carving the head off???
  • Kilgore_TroutKilgore_Trout Posts: 7,334
    How many people were on this bus? Seriously, nobody could fucking knock this shit out of this guy by the time he got to carving the head off???
    hmm generally not a good idea to fuck with someone clearly mentally FUBAR... only more people wouldve died if someone tried to be a hero... its tight quarters on a bus... you cant really get a good position to overtake him
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  • CHANGEinWAVESCHANGEinWAVES Posts: 10,169
    This is just horrifying:(
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  • elmerelmer Posts: 1,683
    Never stand near the edge of a train platform.




    A few months back in Spain a confirmed schizophrenic decapitated his mother then walked to the town hall at 9pm holding her head, when arrested and led out of the building by police he was giggling. Apparently the mother had phoned a talk radio programme the year before complaining on air that the mental health institutions hadn't any available space for her sick son and how she felt at risk.
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  • Kel VarnsenKel Varnsen Posts: 1,952
    coachchris wrote:
    Shit like this doesn't happen in Canada atleast not in my 30 years of living here.


    Shit like this doesn't typically happen anywhere I don't think, that's what makes it extra fucked up the randomness of it all combined with the gruesomeness of it.
  • moegossardmoegossard Posts: 75
    CNN's headline article about this is weird. Check it out: http://frumpzilla.com/
  • Drowned OutDrowned Out Posts: 6,056
    EDIT: This guy also said though that the attacker pulled out this great big "rambo style" knife and started stabbing him like a robot so I dont know if I am accurate to call those people cowards and I take that back
    That was my first reaction too, but after hearing that it was a hunting knife, and realizing the guy had probably been stabbed like 10 times before anyone knew what was happening...he didn't have a chance, best to get the fuck away from the attacker....
    holy o'fuck this is craziness...I feel horrible for the family :( And the witnesses...imagine seeing that shit? :(
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