Man found NOT-GUILTY (acquitted) on FAILURE TO FILE INCOME TAX RETURN ! ! !
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This is from JUNE fucking 13th PEOPLE:
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http://www.shreveporttimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2007707130321
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Local attorney acquitted on federal income tax charges
Cryer stopped filing income taxes more than 10 years ago
July 13, 2007
By Loresha Wilson
ljwilson@gannett.com
A Shreveport attorney who has challenged the government for years on the legality of filing federal income taxes has been acquitted on charges he failed to file returns.
A federal jury unanimously found Tommy Cryer not guilty this week on two misdemeanor counts of failure to file.
And according to Cryer, the prosecution dismissed two felony charges of tax evasion prior to trial.
Attempts by The Times on Thursday to reach U.S. Attorney Donald Washington or Bill Flanagan, first assistant U.S. attorney, were not successful. Calls made to the two were not immediately returned.
"The court could not find a law that makes me liable or makes my revenues taxable," Cryer said. "The Supreme Court has ruled that the government cannot impose an income tax on anything but the profits and gains. When you work for someone you give your service and labor in exchange for money, so everything you make is not profit or gain. You put something into it."
Cryer was indicted last year on two counts of tax evasion. The indictment alleged he evaded payment of $73,000 in income tax to the Internal Revenue Service during 2000 and 2001.
Cryer created a trust listing himself as the trustee, and received payments of dividends, interest and stock income to that trust, according to the indictment. He also was accused of concealing his receipt of the sources of income from the IRS by failing to file a tax return on behalf of that trust.
"I determined that my personal earnings were not 100 percent profits, some were income," Cryer said. "I refuse to file, I refuse to pay unless they can show me I have a lawful reason to pay."
"What I earned was my own personal labor. I am giving something in exchange. I'm giving my property and I don't belong to anyone else."
Cryer says he stopped filing returns more than 10 years ago after he investigated claims that income tax was a sham. He contends the law doesn't actually tax personal earning.
SPREAD THE FUCKING WORD ! ! !
http://www.shreveporttimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2007707130321
READ IT GODDAMNIT.
The ONLY official news source reporting this ... THANK GOD someone did ! ! !
Local attorney acquitted on federal income tax charges
Cryer stopped filing income taxes more than 10 years ago
July 13, 2007
By Loresha Wilson
ljwilson@gannett.com
A Shreveport attorney who has challenged the government for years on the legality of filing federal income taxes has been acquitted on charges he failed to file returns.
A federal jury unanimously found Tommy Cryer not guilty this week on two misdemeanor counts of failure to file.
And according to Cryer, the prosecution dismissed two felony charges of tax evasion prior to trial.
Attempts by The Times on Thursday to reach U.S. Attorney Donald Washington or Bill Flanagan, first assistant U.S. attorney, were not successful. Calls made to the two were not immediately returned.
"The court could not find a law that makes me liable or makes my revenues taxable," Cryer said. "The Supreme Court has ruled that the government cannot impose an income tax on anything but the profits and gains. When you work for someone you give your service and labor in exchange for money, so everything you make is not profit or gain. You put something into it."
Cryer was indicted last year on two counts of tax evasion. The indictment alleged he evaded payment of $73,000 in income tax to the Internal Revenue Service during 2000 and 2001.
Cryer created a trust listing himself as the trustee, and received payments of dividends, interest and stock income to that trust, according to the indictment. He also was accused of concealing his receipt of the sources of income from the IRS by failing to file a tax return on behalf of that trust.
"I determined that my personal earnings were not 100 percent profits, some were income," Cryer said. "I refuse to file, I refuse to pay unless they can show me I have a lawful reason to pay."
"What I earned was my own personal labor. I am giving something in exchange. I'm giving my property and I don't belong to anyone else."
Cryer says he stopped filing returns more than 10 years ago after he investigated claims that income tax was a sham. He contends the law doesn't actually tax personal earning.
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"I'm giving my property and I don't belong to anyone else"
Sums it up perfectly. Look closely at how this structure for modernized slavery and corruption reveals itself.Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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WOW!!!!!! Very very interesting!!!! I'm still payin the IRS. hmmmm.......0
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I have heard of this kind of stuff before. Income tax is optional, not mandatory. You just have to dig into the mammoth books.When life gives you lemons, throw them at somebody.0
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Taken to the logical extreme, people in the top (insert number) percent of income will hire $500/hr. lawyers to get them out of this while people who can't afford to send their kids to the dentist will continue to pay (and possibly even have to pay more.
And what makes it even better, again, taken to a logical conclusion, is those profiting from the war that is taking so much tax money woult not even have to contribute to it.I cannot come up with a new sig till I get this egg off my face.0 -
Taxing people on what they do (i.e. labor) to live is strikingly similar to slavery.Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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The taxing is not slavery. That they have to labour for their employers having no real say and nothing but a living wage while the employer gets all profits, that would be the slavery, if you want to put it like that.RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:Taxing people on what they do (i.e. labor) to live is strikingly similar to slavery.
To me use of "slavery" doesn't really fit, as to me it requires a pretty hard and obvious exertion of violent control over the slaves to be even relevant. (No, taxation with a theoretical violent force behind the claims is not what I'm talking about) Exploitation perhaps, if you must, but not slavery.
Peace
Dan"YOU [humans] NEED TO BELIEVE IN THINGS THAT AREN'T TRUE. HOW ELSE CAN THEY BECOME?" - Death
"Every judgment teeters on the brink of error. To claim absolute knowledge is to become monstrous. Knowledge is an unending adventure at the edge of uncertainty." - Frank Herbert, Dune, 19650 -
OutOfBreath wrote:The taxing is not slavery. That they have to labour for their employers having no real say and nothing but a living wage while the employer gets all profits, that would be the slavery, if you want to put it like that.
To me use of "slavery" doesn't really fit, as to me it requires a pretty hard and obvious exertion of violent control over the slaves to be even relevant. (No, taxation with a theoretical violent force behind the claims is not what I'm talking about) Exploitation perhaps, if you must, but not slavery.
Peace
Dan
watch this, dan:
http://video.google.com/url?docid=5232639329002339531&esrc=sr1&ev=v&q=fiat%2Bempire&srcurl=http%3A%2F%2Fvideo.google.com%2Fvideoplay%3Fdocid%3D5232639329002339531&vidurl=%2Fvideoplay%3Fdocid%3D5232639329002339531%26q%3Dfiat%2Bempire%26total%3D57%26start%3D0%26num%3D10%26so%3D0%26type%3Dsearch%26plindex%3D0&usg=AL29H20H8dvasDO4bPYKVzra9K8Y7ZcoCwIf I was to smile and I held out my hand
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OK, that's 1 hour. I dont have time for that. I have heard of the fiat/federal reserve thingy before. If there is something in particular you had in mind, just gimme the highlights.DriftingByTheStorm wrote:
My point is that if we're gonna talk about slavery, which I think is overstating it, then the slavery starts at working for an employer at all. Long before a paycheck and taxation. The system in place would be the slavery, not taxation per se.
Peace
Dan"YOU [humans] NEED TO BELIEVE IN THINGS THAT AREN'T TRUE. HOW ELSE CAN THEY BECOME?" - Death
"Every judgment teeters on the brink of error. To claim absolute knowledge is to become monstrous. Knowledge is an unending adventure at the edge of uncertainty." - Frank Herbert, Dune, 19650 -
OutOfBreath wrote:The taxing is not slavery. That they have to labour for their employers having no real say and nothing but a living wage while the employer gets all profits, that would be the slavery, if you want to put it like that.
To me use of "slavery" doesn't really fit, as to me it requires a pretty hard and obvious exertion of violent control over the slaves to be even relevant. (No, taxation with a theoretical violent force behind the claims is not what I'm talking about) Exploitation perhaps, if you must, but not slavery.
Peace
Dan
What if you work for yourself? You work to live and the government demands their cut. Try not paying your taxes and see how the fees and fines and potential jail time racks up against you. Pay up or suffer the wrath.Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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Well, being a member of society, using all of the infrastructure and benefitting from regulations and various other arrangements, you should pay your share after your ability. You dont make money, you dont pay taxes either (unless you have a fortune of money set aside). You dont wanna pay taxes, then dont make money and dont take any part in society. But that's pretty hard. In any case, I see taxation as a moot point as we need some arrangements in society benefiting all, and it must be paid for one way or the other. I dont lose any sleep over mandatory tax-payment.RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:What if you work for yourself? You work to live and the government demands their cut. Try not paying your taxes and see how the fees and fines and potential jail time racks up against you. Pay up or suffer the wrath.
Opinions on taxation aside, if there is slavery going on, it happens way further up in the system, in the way work is organized and who reaps the benefits. Not in a percentage deducted from the paycheck. Slavery is not defined by income-level, but by lack of rights and lack of worth (both seen from the rulers and the slaves themselves).
Is the only difference between slaves and free men for you based on income and the size of it? Then taxation is slavery, but it would need a peculiar definition of slavery, devoid of the hisorical meaning of the term. Using the term as it has historically been used, modern society can't be categorized as slavery. We may not be "free" either (depending on what you mean by it) but slavery is going a bit far.
(edit) btw I'm about to start "working for myself" as an independant contractor within statistics. But even then, I will be using the arrangements in society, I will use the roads, hospitals if necessary, the police if needed and the list goes on and on. So I will pay my taxes gladly. I may take issue with specific results from the tax-system, but I have no problem with taxation in principle.
Peace
Dan"YOU [humans] NEED TO BELIEVE IN THINGS THAT AREN'T TRUE. HOW ELSE CAN THEY BECOME?" - Death
"Every judgment teeters on the brink of error. To claim absolute knowledge is to become monstrous. Knowledge is an unending adventure at the edge of uncertainty." - Frank Herbert, Dune, 19650 -
I wish I could figure out how to quit playing taxes.The only people we should try to get even with...
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.0 -
good for this guy for proving the government wrong in this case. The income tax is ridiculous and completely illegal.
At the same time, I don't agree with not paying taxes at all. We do need government, and the government does have a need to take in revenue, I just have a problem with this particular method which generally screws the middle class tax payer worse than any other facit of society. If you've got an accountant and you make enough scratch there are plenty of ways to get around paying tax. I think that's shit. There are a lot better ways to fund the government than with an income tax. Sure it's better for a politician, but it's not better for the citizen.My Girlfriend said to me..."How many guitars do you need?" and I replied...."How many pairs of shoes do you need?" She got really quiet.0 -
OutOfBreath wrote:The taxing is not slavery. That they have to labour for their employers having no real say and nothing but a living wage while the employer gets all profits, that would be the slavery, if you want to put it like that.
To me use of "slavery" doesn't really fit, as to me it requires a pretty hard and obvious exertion of violent control over the slaves to be even relevant. (No, taxation with a theoretical violent force behind the claims is not what I'm talking about) Exploitation perhaps, if you must, but not slavery.
Peace
Dan
You love the nanny-state. The more income tax you pay, the better society will be, right?
What the government currently does is indeed slavery. We may get services back in the form of the military and police, but the majority of our taxes goes toward entitlements and welfare. We never see a dime of that spending and the people who receive it are no better off.
The more money you sacrifice to the government, the more power you sacrifice to it. The power to tax is the power to destroy.All I know is that to see, and not to speak, would be the great betrayal.
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DriftingByTheStorm wrote:This is from JUNE fucking 13th PEOPLE:
SPREAD THE FUCKING WORD ! ! !
http://www.shreveporttimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2007707130321
READ IT GODDAMNIT.
The ONLY official news source reporting this ... THANK GOD someone did ! ! !
Local attorney acquitted on federal income tax charges
Cryer stopped filing income taxes more than 10 years ago
July 13, 2007
By Loresha Wilson
ljwilson@gannett.com
A Shreveport attorney who has challenged the government for years on the legality of filing federal income taxes has been acquitted on charges he failed to file returns.
A federal jury unanimously found Tommy Cryer not guilty this week on two misdemeanor counts of failure to file.
And according to Cryer, the prosecution dismissed two felony charges of tax evasion prior to trial.
Attempts by The Times on Thursday to reach U.S. Attorney Donald Washington or Bill Flanagan, first assistant U.S. attorney, were not successful. Calls made to the two were not immediately returned.
"The court could not find a law that makes me liable or makes my revenues taxable," Cryer said. "The Supreme Court has ruled that the government cannot impose an income tax on anything but the profits and gains. When you work for someone you give your service and labor in exchange for money, so everything you make is not profit or gain. You put something into it."
Cryer was indicted last year on two counts of tax evasion. The indictment alleged he evaded payment of $73,000 in income tax to the Internal Revenue Service during 2000 and 2001.
Cryer created a trust listing himself as the trustee, and received payments of dividends, interest and stock income to that trust, according to the indictment. He also was accused of concealing his receipt of the sources of income from the IRS by failing to file a tax return on behalf of that trust.
"I determined that my personal earnings were not 100 percent profits, some were income," Cryer said. "I refuse to file, I refuse to pay unless they can show me I have a lawful reason to pay."
"What I earned was my own personal labor. I am giving something in exchange. I'm giving my property and I don't belong to anyone else."
Cryer says he stopped filing returns more than 10 years ago after he investigated claims that income tax was a sham. He contends the law doesn't actually tax personal earning.
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No. But I have no problem with taxes to cover the basics for all.CorporateWhore wrote:You love the nanny-state. The more income tax you pay, the better society will be, right?
You seem to equate freedom with money, and hence taxation is slavery. I have a different definition of freedom than that. Welfare is precisely what the money should be spent on, althogh I'd be pissed at the half-assed way you do it over there too. But then the problem is not tax, but what the taxes are used for. And my guess is that you do see some of that spending in many ways every day without even noticing. Interesting to note that you seem to think welfare is money wasted while military and police are well spent in your view. Strengthening precisely that force in government you are afraid of taking away your money...What the government currently does is indeed slavery. We may get services back in the form of the military and police, but the majority of our taxes goes toward entitlements and welfare. We never see a dime of that spending and the people who receive it are no better off.
The more money you sacrifice to the government, the more power you sacrifice to it. The power to tax is the power to destroy.
Peace
Dan"YOU [humans] NEED TO BELIEVE IN THINGS THAT AREN'T TRUE. HOW ELSE CAN THEY BECOME?" - Death
"Every judgment teeters on the brink of error. To claim absolute knowledge is to become monstrous. Knowledge is an unending adventure at the edge of uncertainty." - Frank Herbert, Dune, 19650 -
OutOfBreath wrote:No. But I have no problem with taxes to cover the basics for all.
You seem to equate freedom with money, and hence taxation is slavery. I have a different definition of freedom than that. Welfare is precisely what the money should be spent on, althogh I'd be pissed at the half-assed way you do it over there too. But then the problem is not tax, but what the taxes are used for. And my guess is that you do see some of that spending in many ways every day without even noticing. Interesting to note that you seem to think welfare is money wasted while military and police are well spent in your view. Strengthening precisely that force in government you are afraid of taking away your money...
Peace
Dan
The government promises you that your tax dollars will go toward the roads or other useful projects and then it wastes it on people who could probably work if you lit a match under their asses.All I know is that to see, and not to speak, would be the great betrayal.
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CorporateWhore wrote:What the government currently does is indeed slavery. We may get services back in the form of the military and police, but the majority of our taxes goes toward entitlements and welfare. We never see a dime of that spending and the people who receive it are no better off.
It's a little radical to compare yourself with the real slaves that existed a few hundred years ago. Paying taxes is not slavery because money is not freedom.
And if you want to see where 12 000 000 000$ of your taxes goes, look at your tv once a month.0 -
Kann wrote:It's a little radical to compare yourself with the real slaves that existed a few hundred years ago. Paying taxes is not slavery because money is not freedom.
And if you want to see where 12 000 000 000$ of your taxes goes, look at your tv once a month.
Money has a lot to do with expanding freedom in the "pursuit of happiness."All I know is that to see, and not to speak, would be the great betrayal.
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CorporateWhore wrote:Money has a lot to do with expanding freedom in the "pursuit of happiness."
So basically we are more free than say, indian tribes in america (before the europeans came), because we have money?
And it still doesn't change the fact that comparing your paying taxes with being enslaved is a little sick.0 -
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