Senator wants to be sworn in on the Quran. Unamarican?

Abookamongstthemany

I can't believe this no-brainer has went 5 pages.

duggro

icarus wrote:

blame miller

i have not seen a single post to change my opinion of him. pure ignorance is spouted with every tap of the keyboard

bootlegger10

soulsinging wrote:

then i assume you can make a case that there is a part of the constitution mandating that our representatives must be sworn in on a bible?

I didn't address that issue in my original post. I was referring to the "they" comment. Where anyone who disagrees with the liberal good buddy network on this board is included in the "they" group.

I don't care whether the Bible is used or not. It's hypocritical most of the time anyway. Not the Bible, but the politicians.

miller8966

cutback wrote:

I'm sorry but is any of this in the Constitution of the United States?

O now Mr. LEftie wants to look at the Constitution. How about when it comes to gun control. You seem to look toward a "living" constitution, whenever that is mentioned

miller8966

icarus wrote:

two can play at that game miller

"I am for freedom of religion, & against all maneuvres to bring about a legal ascendancy of one sect over another."
-- Thomas Jefferson

Because religious belief, or non-belief, is such an important part of every person's life, freedom of religion affects every individual. State churches that use government power to support themselves and force their views on persons of other faiths undermine all our civil rights. Moreover, state support of the church tends to make the clergy unresponsive to the people and leads to corruption within religion. Erecting the "wall of separation between church and state," therefore, is absolutely essential in a free society.
- - Thomas Jefferson

"As I understand the Christian religion, it was, and is, a revelation. But how has it happened that millions of fables, tales, legends, have been blended with both Jewish and Christian revelation that have made them the most bloody religion that ever existed?"
-- John Adams

"We should begin by setting conscience free. When all men of all religions ... shall enjoy equal liberty, property, and an equal chance for honors and power ... we may expect that improvements will be made in the human character and the state of society."
-- John Adams

"Can a free government possibly exist with the Roman Catholic religion?"
-- John Adams

"God is an essence that we know nothing of. Until this awful blasphemy is got rid of, there never will be any liberal science in the world."
-- John Adams

"The rights to religious freedom are of the natural rights of mankind, and ... if any act shall be ... passed to repeal [an act granting those rights] or to narrow its operation, such act will be an infringement of natural right."
-- Thomas Jefferson

"Millions of innocent men, women, and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined, and imprisoned; yet we have not advanced one inch toward uniformity. What has been the effect of coercion? To make one-half the world fools and the other half hypocrites. To support roguery and error all over the earth."
-- Thomas Jefferson


theres plenty more

I can find plenty more to support my point of view also.

soulsinging

miller8966 wrote:

O now Mr. LEftie wants to look at the Constitution. How about when it comes to gun control. You seem to look toward a "living" constitution, whenever that is mentioned

i support gun ownership. i still think this is a crock of shit. can your wilfully ignorant mind wrap itself around that contradiction?

Teslarocker

No Miller. This is not a Christian Nation. This is a secular nation

RavennaSeattle1911

senator? i think he just a congressman elected by wacko idiots from the idiot area,whats so good about him? just because hes muslim hes good ? minnesota is stupid

RavennaSeattle1911

http://www.minnesotademocratsexposed.com/category/keith-ellison/


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnesota%27s_5th_congressional_district

Vedderlution_Baby

Good lord. People are crazy.

Uncle Leo

RavennaSeattle1911 wrote:

senator? i think he just a congressman elected by wacko idiots from the idiot area,whats so good about him? just because hes muslim hes good ? minnesota is stupid

First of all nobody was trying to address "whats so good about him." They were just addressing whether or not he should get to use the book of his choice. But "wacko idiots from the idiot area" and "Minnesota is stupid." is pretty constuctive.

Address the question of whether he should be able to do this.

RavennaSeattle1911 wrote:

http://www.minnesotademocratsexposed.com/category/keith-ellison/

What does this prove? It was done by people from Minnesota, which, as we know, is stupid.

RavennaSeattle1911 wrote:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnesota%27s_5th_congressional_district

There it is. The Fifth district. What is your point?

And yes, I live in Minnesota. Yes, I was born and rasied in that district. Minneapolis would be the greatest city in America if not for the lousy weather for five months out of the year (I won't impugn Seattle, as I think Seattle is a great place as well.)

Just because the people of the district don't just dismiss a candidate because he is Muslim does not mean that they are wacko and their state is stupid.

Edited to tone down my reaction...I try to be respectful

Vedderlution_Baby

Uncle Leo wrote:

Now if they did not know when to use caps and where to put apostrophes...

Then they'd be dino.

SweetHarmonics

The fringe gets more ridiculous with each passing day, good to see that they are a very small minority at this point.

And Prager continues his crusade of non-tolerance. He actually compared it to being sworn in with a copy of Mein Kampf. A true servant of god he is.

Pearl Jam and toast

icarus wrote:

this is completely ridiculous. first of all this country wasnt founded on the bible. this country was founded to escape religious persecution.

what would be the point of making him swear on the bible if the bible doesnt mean anything to him? wouldnt it make a lot more sense to make him swear on a book that he actually abides by?

i love it when people say stuff is unamerican but their very attitude is whats unamerican.

I agree.

Personally I think it's rediculous and entirely hypocritical of us to swear people on any kind of religious literature.

This is a stupid issue. And if we're going to insist on swearing people in on religious script it might as well be his own.

RavennaSeattle1911

seattle sucks and i dont really live there anymore

he hangs out with farrakan i bet

i bet silly garrison keilor voted for him

i wonder if hes for death penalty -minn isnt really? muslims are i think

darkcrow

RavennaSeattle1911 wrote:

i wonder if hes for death penalty -minn isnt really? muslims are i think

what a silly statement... muslims are for the death penalty.... that is like saying all guys with long hair are hippies who surf and smoke weed. generalising reall doesnt help.

RavennaSeattle1911

ive never heard of any muslim activists against the death penalty and what has farrakan said about it ?

i have no idea ,but the koran seems to support death penalty

all this mercy stuff is only from allah if youve been good and it encourgaes charible giving to other muslims only?but it doenst say love your enemies as the new testament says as far as i know

i need to read the koran i guess

Collin

RavennaSeattle1911 wrote:

i've never heard of any muslim activists against the death penalty and what has farrakan said about it ?

i have no idea ,but the koran seems to support death penalty

all this mercy stuff is only from allah if youve been good and it encourgaes charible giving to other muslims only?but it doenst say love your enemies as the new testament says as far as i know

i need to read the koran i guess

I guess you should read it.

keeponrockin

Thats the biggest bullshit I've ever heard.

chopitdown

big deal. Let him use what he wants. We allow Christians to not swear an Oath (they can use the word affirm). We should allow this guy to use what is important to him. All we want our representatives to say is that they'll uphold the constitution / laws...maybe we should have people swear in on that.