joint chiefs chair says homosexuality is immoral

darkcrow
darkcrow Posts: 1,102
edited March 2007 in A Moving Train
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070313/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/military_gays

Gen. Pace calls homosexuality immoral 1 hour, 21 minutes ago



WASHINGTON - The chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff said Monday he considers homosexuality to be immoral and the military should not condone it by allowing gay personnel to serve openly, the Chicago Tribune reported.

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Marine Gen. Peter Pace likened homosexuality to adultery, which he said was also immoral, the newspaper reported on its Web site.

"I do not believe the United States is well served by a policy that says it is OK to be immoral in any way," Pace told the newspaper in a wide-ranging interview.

Pace, a native of Brooklyn, N.Y., and a 1967 graduate of the U.S. Naval Academy, said he based his views on his upbringing.

He said he supports the Pentagon's "don't ask, don't tell policy" in which gay men and women are allowed in the military as long as they keep their sexual orientation private. The policy, signed into law by President Clinton in 1994, prohibits commanders from asking about a person's sexual orientation.

"I believe homosexual acts between two individuals are immoral and that we should not condone immoral acts," Pace said.

The newspaper said Pace did not address concerns raised by a 2005 government audit that showed some 10,000 troops, including more than 50 specialists in Arabic, have been discharged because of the policy.

With Democrats in charge of Congress, Rep. Martin Meehan, D-Mass., has introduced legislation to reverse the military's ban on openly serving homosexuals.
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  • dunkman
    dunkman Posts: 19,646
    this comes from a military man who obviously believes that killing is moral though :rolleyes:
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • searchlightsoul
    searchlightsoul Posts: 583
    I wonder whether he is a Christian?
  • know1
    know1 Posts: 6,801
    As an adulterer, I do not get offended when people say it is immoral. Do any of you other adulterers?
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  • even flow?
    even flow? Posts: 8,066
    The US army is already grasping straws with their recruiting of inmates for the lack of a better word. And now they want the people who want to fight for their country to cover up and pretend they are something they are not. Wow!
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  • even flow?
    even flow? Posts: 8,066
    know1 wrote:
    As an adulterer, I do not get offended when people say it is immoral. Do any of you other adulterers?


    Would you be offended if a gay male hit on you relentlessly at a bar? Sorry to answer a question with a quesion. ;)
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  • know1
    know1 Posts: 6,801
    even flow? wrote:
    Would you be offended if a gay male hit on you relentlessly at a bar? Sorry to answer a question with a quesion. ;)


    Not at all. I don't view being hit on by a gay man as any different from being hit on by a woman that I'm not interested in. Other than annoying, it makes no difference to me.

    Now - how about my question...?
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  • even flow?
    even flow? Posts: 8,066
    know1 wrote:
    As an adulterer, I do not get offended when people say it is immoral. Do any of you other adulterers?


    The real adultery? Cause if you are fooling around on your spouse, you are an ass.

    I am not an aduterer so I need not worry about what people say.
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  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    dunkman wrote:
    this comes from a military man who obviously believes that killing is moral though :rolleyes:

    Of course it's moral for Americans to kill people. They have God on their side afterall. :rolleyes:
  • know1
    know1 Posts: 6,801
    even flow? wrote:
    The real adultery? Cause if you are fooling around on your spouse, you are an ass.

    I am not an aduterer so I need not worry about what people say.

    For me, the real adultery includes pre-marital sex. So by that definition, are any of us adulterers offended when people say it is immoral?
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    ...are those who've helped us.

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  • know1
    know1 Posts: 6,801
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Of course it's moral for Americans to kill people. They have God on their side afterall. :rolleyes:

    Yes - because God condones killing, right? How far into the commandments do you have to get before you see the words "Thou shall not kill"?
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  • even flow?
    even flow? Posts: 8,066
    know1 wrote:
    For me, the real adultery includes pre-marital sex. So by that definition, are any of us adulterers offended when people say it is immoral?


    In a way, yes. If the animals do it, of which I am an animal. I don't need anybody judging my lifestyle and what I want to do with it. How many species are on the planet and we are the only one with supposed rules on when we can engage in sex? Funny stuff that is.
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  • dunkman
    dunkman Posts: 19,646
    know1 wrote:
    Yes - because God condones killing, right?

    Noah's Ark? didnt he wipe out all the 'evil' people with a flood?
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • know1
    know1 Posts: 6,801
    even flow? wrote:
    In a way, yes. If the animals do it, of which I am an animal. I don't need anybody judging my lifestyle and what I want to do with it. How many species are on the planet and we are the only one with supposed rules on when we can engage in sex? Funny stuff that is.

    Hmm. Well it sure doesn't offend me.
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  • know1
    know1 Posts: 6,801
    dunkman wrote:
    Noah's Ark? didnt he wipe out all the 'evil' people with a flood?

    Doesn't everybody die sometime? In essence you could say God has killed every person whose ever existed if you want to take that logic. The commandments are for humans to follow.
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  • inmytree
    inmytree Posts: 4,741
    so what...? so this guy thinks it's immoral...BFD...

    I think this is much ado about nothing...a nice little piece to get the masses talking about something other than the war, pollution, gas prices, and the real things that effect our lives...
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    know1 wrote:
    For me, the real adultery includes pre-marital sex. So by that definition, are any of us adulterers offended when people say it is immoral?

    Depends what you mean by 'people'. You're the first person I've ever encountered to voice such an opinion.
  • dunkman
    dunkman Posts: 19,646
    know1 wrote:
    Doesn't everybody die sometime? In essence you could say God has killed every person whose ever existed if you want to take that logic. The commandments are for humans to follow.

    Highlander doesnt die :o
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • spiral out
    spiral out Posts: 1,052
    inmytree wrote:
    so what...? so this guy thinks it's immoral...BFD...

    I think this is much ado about nothing...a nice little piece to get the masses talking about something other than the war, pollution, gas prices, and the real things that effect our lives...

    Indeed your quite right it is just a diversion tactic from the important things going on.
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  • inmytree
    inmytree Posts: 4,741
    spiral out wrote:
    Indeed your quite right it is just a diversion tactic from the important things going on.

    yup, it was the lead on the morning shows, all of them...

    seriously, why is this an issue...? and if you listen to the tape, he was respectful in his way of discussing his beliefs...right or wrong, he simply stated it was "how he was raised"....the didn't call anyone a faggot, like mann coulter...

    I'm listening to the radio at work right now...it's the first story on fox news radio...
  • know1
    know1 Posts: 6,801
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Depends what you mean by 'people'. You're the first person I've ever encountered to voice such an opinion.

    In the original article, the chairman said that homosexuality is immoral just like adultery is immoral. I view - and I think at least some other people do to - that pre-marital sex is adultery.

    Therefore, my point is that adulterers could in theory be just as offended by these comments as homosexuals could. But, you rarely hear adulterers crying out that they are offended, so I was just curious about that.
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    ...are those who've helped us.

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