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Breaking News – McCain will debate tonight

mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
edited September 2008 in A Moving Train
Just saw it on CNN that McCain will attend tonight's debate. I just have to ask though, I thought he wasn't going to debate until their was a proposal in Congress? As of right now there is no proposal.
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  • blackredyellowblackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    mammasan wrote:
    Just saw it on CNN that McCain will attend tonight's debate. I just have to ask though, I thought he wasn't going to debate until their was a proposal in Congress? As of right now there is no proposal.

    I guess McCain's bluff got called.
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  • meisteredermeistereder Posts: 1,577
    Shocker. I love how we were all waiting for him to decide whether or not he would take part in a presidential debate. Will he? Won't he? He will!
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  • OlDiamondbackOlDiamondback Posts: 100
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26900453/
  • ledveddermanledvedderman Posts: 7,761
    Anyone who ever thought that McCain wouldn't show up tonight is crrrraaaaaazzzzzyyyy
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  • freindlyfiredfreindlyfired Posts: 297
    Just goes to prove how rigged even the debates are now by the Incumbent/War Party(GOP and Dem). One side can just decide he isnt going to show up meanwhile candidates like Nader and Barr that want to talk about real issues we most care about are shut out entirely.

    We deserve everything we get.
  • blackredyellowblackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    Seriously, his campaign has been a hot mess for the past two weeks.
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  • ledveddermanledvedderman Posts: 7,761
    His campaign reminds me so much of the campaign Mary Beth Cahill ran for John Kerry four years ago. I like to call it the "prevent defense" of campaigning
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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    shouldnt McCain be in bed by 9pm?





























































































































    ;)
  • QuestionAuthorityQuestionAuthority Idaho Posts: 327
    blackredyellow wrote:
    Seriously, his campaign has been a hot mess for the past two weeks.

    You hit the nail there! It is spiraling out of control..
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  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    He took a gamble and it doesn't seem to have payed off. Now he has to try to save face because he looks like backed out of his promise.
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  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,200
    I said long ago there's no way he's going to allow Obama 90 minutes of free air time. He just couldn't let that happen.

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  • blackredyellowblackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    ledvedderman wrote:
    His campaign reminds me so much of the campaign Mary Beth Cahill ran for John Kerry four years ago. I like to call it the "prevent defense" of campaigning

    Yeah, they keep adding crazy stunts all the time just to get headlines.

    And every time Palin opens her mouth, she goes to the zoo.
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  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,200
    meistereder wrote:
    Shocker. I love how we were all waiting for him to decide whether or not he would take part in a presidential debate. Will he? Won't he? He will!

    Just another way of him seeking as much attention as he can get. It may serve him better to just man up and face Obama and let things be what they may.

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  • meisteredermeistereder Posts: 1,577
    Thing is, it's not as if he won't be ready. He'll be fine. This debate will be a warsh.
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  • JSBEJSBE Posts: 1,078
    "He is optimistic that there has been significant progress toward a bipartisan agreement now that there is a framework for all parties to be represented in negotiations, including Rep. [Roy] Blunt as a designated negotiator for House Republicans," the campaign said in a statement.

    "The McCain campaign is resuming all activities and the senator will travel to the debate this afternoon."
  • Gonzo1977Gonzo1977 Posts: 1,696
    my2hands wrote:
    shouldnt McCain be in bed by 9pm?;)

    Yeah...
    But his Bladder keeps him up at night anyways
  • flywallyflyflywallyfly Posts: 1,453
    blackredyellow wrote:
    Yeah, they keep adding crazy stunts all the time just to get headlines.

    And every time Palin opens her mouth, she goes to the zoo.

    She is smart and has executive experience.
    **(Turns on and watches CBS interview with Palin)**

    Forget what i said.
  • flywallyflyflywallyfly Posts: 1,453
    Gonzo1977 wrote:
    Yeah...
    But his Bladder keeps him up at night anyways

    Is McCain gonna show up for the debate? Depends.....

    Hehehehe
  • URthekeyURthekey Posts: 1,798
    I hope this debate is different, and that they discuss the issues and it's not all political fluff and talking in circles with no real substance. Now that even Bush admits this country is in a financial crisis, there are some serious issues to debate.

    I for one will be tuned in.
  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    URthekey wrote:
    I hope this debate is different, and that they discuss the issues and it's not all political fluff and talking in circles with no real substance. Now that even Bush admits this country is in a financial crisis, there are some serious issues to debate.

    I for one will be tuned in.


    I will tune in but I'm not getting my hopes up that this debate will be different than any other.
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  • JSBEJSBE Posts: 1,078
    Republican John McCain announced that he will debate, but in his statement confirming his attendance blasted Democrats and bemoaned Washington politics:

    "John McCain’s decision to suspend his campaign was made in the hopes that politics could be set aside to address our economic crisis.

    "In response, Americans saw a familiar spectacle in Washington. At a moment of crisis that threatened the economic security of American families, Washington played the blame game rather than work together to find a solution that would avert a collapse of financial markets without squandering hundreds of billions of taxpayers’ money to bailout bankers and brokers who bet their fortunes on unsafe lending practices.

    "Both parties in both houses of Congress and the administration needed to come together to find a solution that would deserve the trust of the American people. And while there were attempts to do that, much of yesterday was spent fighting over who would get the credit for a deal and who would get the blame for failure. There was no deal or offer yesterday that had a majority of support in Congress. There was no deal yesterday that included adequate protections for the taxpayers. It is not enough to cut deals behind closed doors and then try to force it on the rest of Congress -- especially when it amounts to thousands of dollars for every American family.

    "The difference between Barack Obama and John McCain was apparent during the White House meeting yesterday where Barack Obama’s priority was political posturing in his opening monologue defending the package as it stands. John McCain listened to all sides so he could help focus the debate on finding a bipartisan resolution that is in the interest of taxpayers and homeowners. The Democratic interests stood together in opposition to an agreement that would accommodate additional taxpayer protections.

    "Senator McCain has spent the morning talking to members of the Administration, members of the Senate, and members of the House. He is optimistic that there has been significant progress toward a bipartisan agreement now that there is a framework for all parties to be represented in negotiations, including Representative Blunt as a designated negotiator for House Republicans. The McCain campaign is resuming all activities and the Senator will travel to the debate this afternoon. Following the debate, he will return to Washington to ensure that all voices and interests are represented in the final agreement, especially those of taxpayers and homeowners."
  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,200
    mammasan wrote:
    I will tune in but I'm not getting my hopes up that this debate will be different than any other.

    I agree but McCain won't be coming in like a macho maverick guy tonight.

    Peace
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  • Gonzo1977Gonzo1977 Posts: 1,696
    flywallyfly wrote:
    Is McCain gonna show up for the debate? Depends.....

    Hehehehe


    As long as this is at the podium

    http://images.inmagine.com/168nwm/creatas/cr15609/cr1560934.jpg

    He'll be good to go :)
  • memememe Posts: 4,695
    Ol'Diamondback wrote:
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26900453/

    This is hilarious, and highly credible :rolleyes:

    McCain's campaign said the meeting "devolved into a contentious shouting match" and implied that Obama was at fault — on a day when McCain said he was putting politics aside to focus on the nation's financial problems.
    ... and the will to show I will always be better than before.
  • Gonzo1977Gonzo1977 Posts: 1,696
    JSBE wrote:
    Republican John McCain announced that he will debate, but in his statement confirming his attendance blasted Democrats and bemoaned Washington politics:

    "John McCain’s decision to suspend his campaign was made in the hopes that politics could be set aside to address our economic crisis.

    "In response, Americans saw a familiar spectacle in Washington. At a moment of crisis that threatened the economic security of American families, Washington played the blame game rather than work together to find a solution that would avert a collapse of financial markets without squandering hundreds of billions of taxpayers’ money to bailout bankers and brokers who bet their fortunes on unsafe lending practices.

    "Both parties in both houses of Congress and the administration needed to come together to find a solution that would deserve the trust of the American people. And while there were attempts to do that, much of yesterday was spent fighting over who would get the credit for a deal and who would get the blame for failure. There was no deal or offer yesterday that had a majority of support in Congress. There was no deal yesterday that included adequate protections for the taxpayers. It is not enough to cut deals behind closed doors and then try to force it on the rest of Congress -- especially when it amounts to thousands of dollars for every American family.

    "The difference between Barack Obama and John McCain was apparent during the White House meeting yesterday where Barack Obama’s priority was political posturing in his opening monologue defending the package as it stands. John McCain listened to all sides so he could help focus the debate on finding a bipartisan resolution that is in the interest of taxpayers and homeowners. The Democratic interests stood together in opposition to an agreement that would accommodate additional taxpayer protections.

    "Senator McCain has spent the morning talking to members of the Administration, members of the Senate, and members of the House. He is optimistic that there has been significant progress toward a bipartisan agreement now that there is a framework for all parties to be represented in negotiations, including Representative Blunt as a designated negotiator for House Republicans. The McCain campaign is resuming all activities and the Senator will travel to the debate this afternoon. Following the debate, he will return to Washington to ensure that all voices and interests are represented in the final agreement, especially those of taxpayers and homeowners."


    Wow!!
    I'm speechless

    This guy is too much
  • meisteredermeistereder Posts: 1,577
    So basically McCain is blaming Obama for politicizing this. Beautiful. McCain hurriedly flies to DC with his posse, stirs up the shit, arguably throws a huge wrench into negotiations, leaves and blames Obama.
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  • Pacomc79Pacomc79 Posts: 9,404
    I honestly don't understand why 2 hours of answering questions mostly on this issue would somehow shutdown the government.

    It was pretty dumb to say... let's suspend the debate in the first place.

    By now, as a presidential canidate you should be so good at answering questions an hour worth of debate won't throw off your focus. If he's going to be president he's going to have days like this.... a lot of them.
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  • blackredyellowblackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    JSBE wrote:
    Republican John McCain announced that he will debate, but in his statement confirming his attendance blasted Democrats and bemoaned Washington politics:

    "John McCain’s decision to suspend his campaign was made in the hopes that politics could be set aside to address our economic crisis.

    "In response, Americans saw a familiar spectacle in Washington. At a moment of crisis that threatened the economic security of American families, Washington played the blame game rather than work together to find a solution that would avert a collapse of financial markets without squandering hundreds of billions of taxpayers’ money to bailout bankers and brokers who bet their fortunes on unsafe lending practices.

    "Both parties in both houses of Congress and the administration needed to come together to find a solution that would deserve the trust of the American people. And while there were attempts to do that, much of yesterday was spent fighting over who would get the credit for a deal and who would get the blame for failure. There was no deal or offer yesterday that had a majority of support in Congress. There was no deal yesterday that included adequate protections for the taxpayers. It is not enough to cut deals behind closed doors and then try to force it on the rest of Congress -- especially when it amounts to thousands of dollars for every American family.

    "The difference between Barack Obama and John McCain was apparent during the White House meeting yesterday where Barack Obama’s priority was political posturing in his opening monologue defending the package as it stands. John McCain listened to all sides so he could help focus the debate on finding a bipartisan resolution that is in the interest of taxpayers and homeowners. The Democratic interests stood together in opposition to an agreement that would accommodate additional taxpayer protections.

    "Senator McCain has spent the morning talking to members of the Administration, members of the Senate, and members of the House. He is optimistic that there has been significant progress toward a bipartisan agreement now that there is a framework for all parties to be represented in negotiations, including Representative Blunt as a designated negotiator for House Republicans. The McCain campaign is resuming all activities and the Senator will travel to the debate this afternoon. Following the debate, he will return to Washington to ensure that all voices and interests are represented in the final agreement, especially those of taxpayers and homeowners."

    He's gone from populist to now basically playing the role of a victim?
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  • jimed14jimed14 Posts: 9,488
    mammasan wrote:
    I will tune in but I'm not getting my hopes up that this debate will be different than any other.


    I heard Bob Scheaffer last night (who is moderating the 3rd debate) ... he stated, they are going to a "10 minute conversation" style of debate ... where each topic (there are 9) has 10 minutes and candidates are encouraged to ask each other questions ... not sure how it'll play out ...

    no doubt, this will turn into a "Gotcha" contest ... but, we'll see, I think that is an improvement.
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