Burma: Thousands dead in massacre of the monks dumped in the jungle

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  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    boycott is a great idea I'm all for it. but can anything really be done without military force? and if not the US, who can intervene?
  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    jlew24asu wrote:
    boycott is a great idea I'm all for it. but can anything really be done without military force? and if not the US, who can intervene?

    Look how quickly Imus was pulled off the air because people called sponsors and complained. If the same determination can be installed into calling Olympic sponsors and NBC the same goal can be reached.

    I think it's time we stopped looking to our government to resolve problems and start taking matters into our own hands. Our government has only one interest and that is self preservation. It barely cares about the citizens of this country why would it care about the people of Burma.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7022437.stm

    4,000 monks are to be sent off to prison in Burma.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    mammasan wrote:
    Look how quickly Imus was pulled off the air because people called sponsors and complained. If the same determination can be installed into calling Olympic sponsors and NBC the same goal can be reached.

    I think it's time we stopped looking to our government to resolve problems and start taking matters into our own hands. Our government has only one interest and that is self preservation. It barely cares about the citizens of this country why would it care about the people of Burma.

    the problem is most americans don't give a fuck about burma and couldn't place it on a map. who cares what happens over there? there's no unified interest to rally around, as opposed to the imus thing where people are 1) scared shitless of discrimination litigation (which can't be brought against burma) and 2) have people like shartpon and the naacp to fan the flames of outrage among a built-in base.
  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    soulsinging wrote:
    the problem is most americans don't give a fuck about burma and couldn't place it on a map. who cares what happens over there? there's no unified interest to rally around, as opposed to the imus thing where people are 1) scared shitless of discrimination litigation (which can't be brought against burma) and 2) have people like shartpon and the naacp to fan the flames of outrage among a built-in base.

    Unfortunetly what you say is true. Man it is really sad to think that people just don't give a fuck. People have become so insulated in their little bubble that they are disconnected from the world. As long as everything inside that bubble is fine they just turn a blind eye to their fellow man.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    mammasan wrote:
    Unfortunetly what you say is true. Man it is really sad to think that people just don't give a fuck. People have become so insulated in their little bubble that they are disconnected from the world. As long as everything inside that bubble is fine they just turn a blind eye to their fellow man.

    I think many people do care. but there really isnt much that can be done. military force is the only option where sometime can actually happen.
  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    jlew24asu wrote:
    I think many people do care. but there really isnt much that can be done. military force is the only option where sometime can actually happen.


    I don't think so. If enough people get involved and threaten to boycott NBC or not buy products from corporate sponsors there very well could be a US boycott of the Olympics. That would definitely send a message to China that it needs to stop it's support of the military junta in Burma.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    Below is a link to an ad that will be published Thursday in several prominent newspapers.

    http://www.avaaz.org/images/114_feature1_en_ad.pdf
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    mammasan wrote:
    I don't think so. If enough people get involved and threaten to boycott NBC or not buy products from corporate sponsors there very well could be a US boycott of the Olympics. That would definitely send a message to China that it needs to stop it's support of the military junta in Burma.

    even if the boycott worked, do you really think china would give a shit?
  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    mammasan wrote:
    I don't think so. If enough people get involved and threaten to boycott NBC or not buy products from corporate sponsors there very well could be a US boycott of the Olympics. That would definitely send a message to China that it needs to stop it's support of the military junta in Burma.

    enough people won't though. for every person who boycotts, there are 3 willing to watch and buy tickets.
  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    jlew24asu wrote:
    even if the boycott worked, do you really think china would give a shit?

    If countries started pulling out of the Olympics I think the Chinese government would act on Burma.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    soulsinging wrote:
    enough people won't though. for every person who boycotts, there are 3 willing to watch and buy tickets.

    I would say the ratio is probably greater than that. Like 1 to 30.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    Just because enough people may not care or the Chinese government may not budge doesn't mean we shouldn't at least try.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    mammasan wrote:
    Just because enough people may not care or the Chinese government may not budge doesn't mean we shouldn't at least try.

    I hear man. keep up the good fight. I support you. I am all for a boycott. maybe list the sponsors so we know who to avoid.
  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    jlew24asu wrote:
    I hear man. keep up the good fight. I support you. I am all for a boycott. maybe list the sponsors so we know who to avoid.

    Coca-Cola Company
    Atos Origin
    Eastman Kodak
    GE
    John Hancock
    Johnson & Johnson
    Lenovo
    McDonald's
    Omega
    Panasonic
    Samsung
    Visa
    Anheuser-Busch
    AT&T
    Bank of America
    General Motors
    Home Depot
    Allstate
    Hilton Hotels
    Jet Set Sports
    Kellogg's
    Nike
    24 Hour Fitness
    Tyson Foods
    United Airlines
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • failedpersephone
    failedpersephone Posts: 3,424
    the reason "nobody gives a shit" is because we can all comfortably look around and say, see? nothing I can do! and just "feel bad" about burma...a BOYCOTT works provided everyone that even just gives it a second of their time acts upon it.


    I give a shit.
    IF YOU WANT A PLATE OF MY BEEF SWELLINGTON, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY THE COVERCHARGE.
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    mammasan wrote:
    Coca-Cola Company
    Atos Origin
    Eastman Kodak
    GE
    John Hancock
    Johnson & Johnson
    Lenovo
    McDonald's
    Omega
    Panasonic
    Samsung
    Visa
    Anheuser-Busch
    AT&T
    Bank of America
    General Motors
    Home Depot
    Allstate
    Hilton Hotels
    Jet Set Sports
    Kellogg's
    Nike
    24 Hour Fitness
    Tyson Foods
    United Airlines

    thanks. I'm stuck with b of a and allstate. the rest I can do
  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    If anyone is interested here is a great website to get information on how to get involved.

    http://www.uscampaignforburma.org/index.html
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    http://www.uscampaignforburma.org/action/not%20a%20game%204.1.pdf
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    Fact sheet on the support that China offers Burma

    http://www.uscampaignforburma.org/action/ChinaBurmaInfoSheet.pdf
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul

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