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  • bryanfury
    bryanfury Posts: 461
    people need to wake up.

    we are witnessing an attempt by the Right to re-write history...and right before our very eyes.

    same tactic the used to justify the war. Have the blowhards on the right talk up a sadaam/ al queda connection. next thing you know, it becomes mainstream fodder. Some believe that to be fact.

    if we do not confront the right on this issue, 20 years from now, 9/11 will be Clinton's fault.
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  • DCGARDEN
    DCGARDEN Posts: 515
    bryanfury wrote:

    if we do not confront the right on this issue, 20 years from now, 9/11 will be Clinton's fault.


    9/11 was a failure and a shared responsibility by both Administrations that resulted from not being able to connect the dots. If you can put your politics aside for a second, take the word of the 9/11 commission on this -

    Both presidents fucked up
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  • bryanfury
    bryanfury Posts: 461
    DCGARDEN wrote:
    9/11 was a failure and a shared responsibility by both Administrations that resulted from not being able to connect the dots. If you can put your politics aside for a second, take the word of the 9/11 commission on this -

    Both presidents fucked up

    honestly, i could care less about Clinton. And the Right isn;t saying this is a shared responsibility. they are saying it was clinton's fault, and that Dubya inherited his mistakes.

    But if we want to start going back, let's look at who made osama the hero he is to muslims.

    It was during the Reagan years (and we all know who his VP was) that Bin Laden really established himself as a leader. no George Bush Sr. (both as CIA director and VP), no bin laden.
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  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    aNiMaL wrote:
    Oh dude, compared to the current president, President Clinton in a phenomenal speaker even when he's pissed. If and when GW is in the same situation, 6 years removed from office and defending himself on an opposing News Network, getting pissed he won’t even be able to form an original thought.

    im not debating that. clinton looked like an ass is all im saying. i wouldnt have said he was well spoken that day
  • aNiMaL
    aNiMaL Posts: 7,117
    jlew24asu wrote:
    clinton looked like an ass is all im saying.
    Hey, guess what; I've got an ass hole too! ;)
  • bryanfury
    bryanfury Posts: 461
    aNiMaL wrote:
    Hey, guess what; I've got an ass hole too! ;)

    yes, thanks to the editing of FOX news (ala the Dean Scream), they chop the interview up to make Clinton seem like an ogre.

    if that little fucker kept smirking at me the way he was, i'd have pimp slapped him.
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  • Milhouse VanHouten
    Milhouse VanHouten Posts: 755
    DCGARDEN wrote:
    Wallace's only purpose huh? You speak to him recently?

    Didn't seem intersted in hearing the explanation? There was no explanation. There was a very powerful and angry man pointing at him and getting bent out of shape - exactly how is an interviewer supposed to complete the interview in that type of fashion - be fair

    If Clinton truly did'nt know he was going to be asked about that stuff, if you really believe that, you are naive. That man is the most politically conscious man alive - he knew what was coming - and he was far from presidential in his response - sorry

    Oh Jesus Christ, come on. Since when is fingerpointing and yelling a problem on Fox News?

    I'm sure he did know that the Bin Laden question was coming, and he definitely could have answered it in a more "presidential" manner. I'm also sure that after 14 years of vicious personal attacks on myself and my family by the right wing media, I might get pretty pissed off, too.
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  • aNiMaL
    aNiMaL Posts: 7,117
    DCGARDEN wrote:
    Falsify what exactly? Falsely portray what? Clinton finger pointing and getting mad does not mean that he was telling the truth. That man put his penis first and the enemy second. Believe it. Say what you will about Bush, we got hit, he hit back. BJ Clinton developed a very disturbing pattern of handling this shit, and now he wants to re-write history. Does'nt work that way. He did a lot of good things, was a great speaker, but don't confuse what you want a president to be with what the man actually was -
    So, you are against a president having sex of any kind, huh? That's all you got from the GOP is that? Sorry getting a blow job is against your religious morals....but Clinton did way more for this country and for the better of this country than Bush has ever even thought about. Bush was way too focused on finishing his daddy's war in Iraq to ever try and find Bin laden or get the terrorist who attacked us.
  • enharmonic
    enharmonic Posts: 1,917
    DCGARDEN wrote:
    Falsify what exactly? Falsely portray what? Clinton finger pointing and getting mad does not mean that he was telling the truth. That man put his penis first and the enemy second. Believe it. Say what you will about Bush, we got hit, he hit back. BJ Clinton developed a very disturbing pattern of handling this shit, and now he wants to re-write history. Does'nt work that way. He did a lot of good things, was a great speaker, but don't confuse what you want a president to be with what the man actually was -

    This is a complete lie, but you certainly have your talking points down. Clinton is absolutely right...the same people who stopped him from focusing on Bin Ladin are now trying to paint him as incompetent when it came to defending our country from terror. Prior to Clinton, we had Bush Sr., a man perhaps more single handedly responsible for terrorism thoughout the world than any other power broker since the Roman Empire.

    Hate to break it to you, but 9/11 happened on Bush's watch, and was facilitated by the Republican's obsession with Clinton's penis. Even still...Bush had the full power of the US government at his disposal for 8 months before 9/11, and was powerless to stop what happened.
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  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    aNiMaL wrote:
    So, you are against a president having sex of any kind, huh? That's all you got from the GOP is that? Sorry getting a blow job is against your religious morals....but Clinton did way more for this country and for the better of this country than Bush has ever even thought about. Bush was way too focused on finishing his daddy's war in Iraq to ever try and find Bin laden or get the terrorist who attacked us.


    well thats not entirely true. el queda is in iraq hence the name "el queda in iraq"
  • DCGARDEN
    DCGARDEN Posts: 515
    bryanfury wrote:
    honestly, i could care less about Clinton. And the Right isn;t saying this is a shared responsibility. they are saying it was clinton's fault, and that Dubya inherited his mistakes.

    But if we want to start going back, let's look at who made osama the hero he is to muslims.

    It was during the Reagan years (and we all know who his VP was) that Bin Laden really established himself as a leader. no George Bush Sr. (both as CIA director and VP), no bin laden.

    Very possibly the silliest thing I've heard in awhile. Bin Laden became a Muslim hero when he stood up against Soviet Aggression. He became heavily anti-American when the USA stood up for Kuwait against the Hussein invasion.

    To say no George Bush Sr. No Bin Laden is something that has the factual basis of an elementary student's thoughts


    On the Clinton/Bush thing - I don't recall anyone in the Bush admin. quoted as saying it was all Clinton's fault and they're just picking up the pieces. If I'm wrong, give me the quotes - I'd be happy to admit I'm mistaken

    You'd call me on the Right I'm sure, but I don't necessarily view things this way.
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  • Milhouse VanHouten
    Milhouse VanHouten Posts: 755
    jlew24asu wrote:
    well thats not entirely true. el queda is in iraq hence the name "el queda in iraq"

    PNAC recommended the invasion of Iraq/removal of Hussein a few years BEFORE 9-11, and after that, it was pretty easy to convince the nation to go to war. All he had to do was present some sketchy intelligence in a certain light.
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  • bryanfury
    bryanfury Posts: 461
    DCGARDEN wrote:
    Very possibly the silliest thing I've heard in awhile. Bin Laden became a Muslim hero when he stood up against Soviet Aggression. He became heavily anti-American when the USA stood up for Kuwait against the Hussein invasion.

    To say no George Bush Sr. No Bin Laden is something that has the factual basis of an elementary student's thoughts


    On the Clinton/Bush thing - I don't recall anyone in the Bush admin. quoted as saying it was all Clinton's fault and they're just picking up the pieces. If I'm wrong, give me the quotes - I'd be happy to admit I'm mistaken

    You'd call me on the Right I'm sure, but I don't necessarily view things this way.

    how do you think he was able to stand up against the soviets? using his dad's dumptrucks?

    please...

    and i didn;t say the Administration is saying its Clinton's fault. This stuff is coming from the Right (media mostly). Once they plant the seed, and they have, all they need is FOX news to water it (which they have).
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  • DCGARDEN
    DCGARDEN Posts: 515
    aNiMaL wrote:
    So, you are against a president having sex of any kind, huh? That's all you got from the GOP is that? Sorry getting a blow job is against your religious morals....but Clinton did way more for this country and for the better of this country than Bush has ever even thought about. Bush was way too focused on finishing his daddy's war in Iraq to ever try and find Bin laden or get the terrorist who attacked us.

    Cmon dude. Are you serious? I'm republican but I am no fucking religious zealot - not even close - I did'nt want Clinton impeached over getting a damn blowjob - I thought that was wrong - But I do have a problem with getting a blowjob deterring his focus - and using military action as a deterrent from him getting a blowjob - pretty fucked up shit
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  • bryanfury
    bryanfury Posts: 461
    DCGARDEN wrote:
    Cmon dude. Are you serious? I'm republican but I am no fucking religious zealot - not even close - I did'nt want Clinton impeached over getting a damn blowjob - I thought that was wrong - But I do have a problem with getting a blowjob deterring his focus - and using military action as a deterrent from him getting a blowjob - pretty fucked up shit

    funny how republicans hate so called conspiracy thoeries, yet are perfectly capable of thinking that clinton bombed shit to take the focus off of a blowjob. that's an absurd statement.
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  • DCGARDEN
    DCGARDEN Posts: 515
    bryanfury wrote:
    how do you think he was able to stand up against the soviets? using his dad's dumptrucks?

    please...

    and i didn;t say the Administration is saying its Clinton's fault. This stuff is coming from the Right (media mostly). Once they plant the seed, and they have, all they need is FOX news to water it (which they have).


    Bryan, America assisted the Afghans to counter the Russian power, but Bin Laden did not fight there BECAUSE he heard America was going to help.

    You said the " Right " , I assumed you meant the administration. If you were speaking of the Media, I did not understand your point - sorry
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  • LifeWasted21
    LifeWasted21 Posts: 149
    hey republicans lets make this an issue so that we can take the focus off how retarded our president is and how the middle east wants to blow us out of the fucking water!!! yay!!! perfect idea
  • DCGARDEN
    DCGARDEN Posts: 515
    bryanfury wrote:
    funny how republicans hate so called conspiracy thoeries, yet are perfectly capable of thinking that clinton bombed shit to take the focus off of a blowjob. that's an absurd statement.

    Republicans don't hate consipiracy theories - Just BS ones that actually try to insinuate that George Bush blew up the Towers, and oh yeah, the Levees in New Orleans too - That my friend is absurd shit

    Clinton launching a few cruise missles into un-occupied territories in the desert to throw the media off of his "extra-activities" is not very believable, it is quite politically savvy, to say the least

    Apples & Oranges
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  • bryanfury
    bryanfury Posts: 461
    DCGARDEN wrote:
    Bryan, America assisted the Afghans to counter the Russian power, but Bin Laden did not fight there BECAUSE he heard America was going to help.

    You said the " Right " , I assumed you meant the administration. If you were speaking of the Media, I did not understand your point - sorry

    my fault for not clarifying that.

    but are you saying that without our help, bin laden would have suceeded against the Soviets? no way. so, with our government's help, bin laden become a hero in the muslim world. doesn't sound "silly" to me.
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  • aNiMaL
    aNiMaL Posts: 7,117
    DCGARDEN wrote:
    Cmon dude. Are you serious? I'm republican but I am no fucking religious zealot - not even close - I did'nt want Clinton impeached over getting a damn blowjob - I thought that was wrong - But I do have a problem with getting a blowjob deterring his focus - and using military action as a deterrent from him getting a blowjob - pretty fucked up shit
    Getting a blow job didn't deter his focus....the ridiculous GOD impeachment is what you are referring to.....which obviously also didn't deter anything because he was still trying to combat Al-Qaeda....back when the repubs accused him of Wag the Dog.

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