N. Korea Threatens Attacks on U.S.

my2hands

JD Sal wrote:

A nuclear bomb isn't going to get here, well, unless 5,000 North Koreans pick up a bomb and throw it as us.

i see you watched the last lewis black stand up

farfromglorified

my2hands wrote:

the US spends more on the military then the rest of the world combined... i see no checks?

Ugh.

The Chinese military budget, if adjusted accordingly, arguably approaches the US budget.

The Russian figures during the cold war often exceeded the US budget.

The US also subsidizes military expenditures throughout the industrial world. In the absence of US military spending, many nations would spend much more (though certainly not as much as the US spends).

Not defending the US military budget....I'm against all of it. But the above statistic is relatively meaningless.

JD Sal

my2hands wrote:

i see you watched the last lewis black stand up

Yes, yes I did

farfromglorified

my2hands wrote:

not as a % of GDP... many countries give more % wise compared to their GDP... we are not as generous as you might think

Nice to see that you only hold the posts of others to that standard.

How about your own:

my2hands wrote:

the US spends more on the military then the rest of the world combined... i see no checks?

US Military spending as a % of GDP
http://www.truthandpolitics.org/military-relative-size-graph.php?meas=GDP

Military spending as % of GDP for all nations (watch out for Madagascar )
http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/fields/2034.html

http://www.defenselink.mil/pubs/allied_contrib2000/chartIII-3.html

Byrnzie

Nothingman54 wrote:

Korea is where we should be!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! These guys are the biggest threat to us and the world right now. They are so trigger happy that they could blow any time. They hate us and they want and will try to kill us.

Yeah, whatever!

Byrnzie

my2hands wrote:

jesus h christ... american propaganda REALLY works :rolleyes:

repeat after me...NORTH KOREA IS NOT A THREAT...

we have 10,000 nuclear weapons, i think that qualifies US as a threat to the WORLD

At last, a sane comment amongst all this hysterical, typically American bullshit. I think most of you mugs need to re-read the above article. It reads....

North Korea would respond to a pre-emptive U.S. military attack with an "annihilating strike and a nuclear war," the state-run media said Monday

Did you catch that? "...would respond to a pre-emptive U.S. military attack.." Right then, let's reassess this situation: The U.S is planning an illegal, pre-emptive military attack against a sovereign nation. So who's the threat? Who are the terrorists here? Why are so many Americans so gullible and war hungry? And why does the American media find it so easy to whip up war fever among the population?

Byrnzie

reborncareerist wrote:

Few governments disgust me as much as this one does. Even the Iranian president looks kind of sane and rational by comparison. At least he only threatens Israel and the U.S. Kim would be perfectly content to burn the entire globe, I think ...

Unlike the Philanphropists in the Bush Administration right?

Byrnzie

Nothingman54 wrote:

Korea is where we should be!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! These guys are the biggest threat to us and the world right now. They are so trigger happy that they could blow any time. They hate us and they want and will try to kill us.

I take it your joking, right? You surely can't be that dumb?

Commy

North Korea threatens attacked IF the US attacks first...

"The army and people of the DPRK are now in full preparedness to answer a pre-emptive attack with a relentless annihilating strike and a nuclear war with a mighty nuclear deterrent," the report said.

Simply said they'd defend themselves.

thankyougrandma

N. Korea said they would be prepared to launch missiles as a result of a pre-emptive strikes against their country. They won't attack the USA, they will defend themselves in case of an attack...

Will1659

Pacomc79 wrote:

sounds like somebody is crying for attention.

I agree. Even the Iranians, crazy as they are, would be pretty much content to simply be left alone, I think. North Korea, on the other hand, seems to get even more petulant like this when they are ignored.

rebornFixer

Byrnzie wrote:

At last, a sane comment amongst all this hysterical, typically American bullshit. I think most of you mugs need to re-read the above article. It reads....

North Korea would respond to a pre-emptive U.S. military attack with an "annihilating strike and a nuclear war," the state-run media said Monday

Did you catch that? "...would respond to a pre-emptive U.S. military attack.." Right then, let's reassess this situation: The U.S is planning an illegal, pre-emptive military attack against a sovereign nation. So who's the threat? Who are the terrorists here? Why are so many Americans so gullible and war hungry? And why does the American media find it so easy to whip up war fever among the population?

I am not even an American, yet I still stand by my earlier intimation that countries threatening nuclear war is a bad thing. You're cool with it? Power to you, be oblivious. Was there some sort of pronouncement from Bush that I missed? The invasion of North Korea starts tomorrow? No? Then shut the fuck up or else say something that isn't based on prejudical overgeneralizations and hearsay.

Byrnzie

reborncareerist wrote:

I am not even an American, yet I still stand by my earlier intimation that countries threatening nuclear war is a bad thing. You're cool with it? Power to you, be oblivious. Was there some sort of pronouncement from Bush that I missed? The invasion of North Korea starts tomorrow? No? Then shut the fuck up or else say something that isn't based on prejudical overgeneralizations and hearsay.

So the U.S hasn't threatened Iran or North Korea then? Yes they have. And what do those threats entail? Nuclear war. If your gonna attack a country that has nuclear weapons then you will attack them using nuclear weapons. I suppose your one of the mugs who believed Iraq was a threat to the security of America?
Again the above article reads "...would respond to a pre-emptive military attack". Where do you think that sentiment arose? From out of a vaccuum? I suggest you think before spouting shit.

Byrnzie

Will1659 wrote:

I agree. Even the Iranians, crazy as they are, would be pretty much content to simply be left alone, I think. North Korea, on the other hand, seems to get even more petulant like this when they are ignored.

Doesn't sound like they're being ignored to me:

Monday's report accused Washington of escalating military pressure on the country with war exercises, a massive arms buildup and aerial espionage by basing new spy planes in South Korea.

Will1659

Byrnzie wrote:

Doesn't sound like they're being ignored to me:

Monday's report accused Washington of escalating military pressure on the country with war exercises, a massive arms buildup and aerial espionage by basing new spy planes in South Korea.

Dude that was a report from the North Korean state-controlled press. Now I'm not saying our American media is always great, but if you're taking what the North Koreans say at face value, you're out of your mind.

Byrnzie

Will1659 wrote:

Dude that was a report from the North Korean state-controlled press. Now I'm not saying our American media is always great, but if you're taking what the North Koreans say at face value, you're out of your mind.

I'm not taking anything at face value. I'm commenting on the above article. I treat all news media with the same critical faculty. You don't think the U.S state controls the press? Read 'Manufacturing consent' Noam Chomsky. The most advanced propaganda system in the world is the American propaganda system. Propaganda is to a democracy what violence is to a dictatorship.

bigperm

Byrnzie wrote:

So the U.S hasn't threatened Iran or North Korea then? Yes they have. And what do those threats entail? Nuclear war. If your gonna attack a country that has nuclear weapons then you will attack them using nuclear weapons. I suppose your one of the mugs who believed Iraq was a threat to the security of America?
Again the above article reads "...would respond to a pre-emptive military attack". Where do you think that sentiment arose? From out of a vaccuum? I suggest you think before spouting shit.

I think you're assuming too much here. I highly doubt that the US would attack NK with nuclear weapons just because they have nuclear weapons. That makes no sense at all. I'm sure the pre-emptive strike would be us bombing their nuclear facilities, and that does not require a nuclear strike.

Clearly, NK does not want to peacefully talk about stopping their nuclear program. So, how else are we going to stop them? It could come down to either NK having nukes or a preemptive strike. What else is there and which would you prefer?

Byrnzie

bigperm wrote:

I think you're assuming too much here. I highly doubt that the US would attack NK with nuclear weapons just because they have nuclear weapons. That makes no sense at all. I'm sure the pre-emptive strike would be us bombing their nuclear facilities, and that does not require a nuclear strike.

Clearly, NK does not want to peacefully talk about stopping their nuclear program. So, how else are we going to stop them? It could come down to either NK having nukes or a preemptive strike. What else is there and which would you prefer?

You stop them by not proliferating nuclear weapons yourself, and defying the nuclear test ban treaty. You can also begin by showing consistency and therefore stop vetoing any attempt made by the U.N to get Israel to reveal details of it's nuclear program.
As for doubting that the US would attack NK with nuclear weapons just because they have nuclear weapons...read this article regarding the U.S and Iran...

http://www.newyorker.com/printables/fact/060417fa_fact

Commy

Byrnzie wrote:

Propaganda is to a democracy what violence is to a dictatorship.

You said it man.

Naughtilist

Byrnzie wrote:

Propaganda is to a democracy what violence is to a dictatorship.

I love that quote, chompsky is a real mental savior.

Funny how this story comes out a couple days before the 4th
and they named a missle after patriotism..