Anti-Marijuana Commercials

PaperPlates

SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:

you fucking potheads crack me up..............

I thought it was crackheads from Philly that you hated. No love for potheads either?

SPEEDY MCCREADY

PaperPlates wrote:

I thought it was crackheads from Philly that you hated. No love for potheads either?

i have never used the word hate here....

hehehe............

PaperPlates

SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:

i have never used the word hate here....

hehehe............

I hate that about you.


Whats up speedy, you chase all the liberals out for the night??

Skitch Patterson

JD Sal wrote:

So say you don't agree with driving under the influence. It doesn't mean his credibility is zero because he's comparing the effects of driving under the influence of alcohol vs marijuana.

All of his points were very valid.

Sorry. Disagree totally. In my experiences, anyone who makes that point uses as justification to drive stoned, and continue to do so. "dude, its not as bad as driving drunk".

TheGossman

Skitch Patterson wrote:

Sorry. Disagree totally. In my experiences, anyone who makes that point uses as justification to drive stoned, and continue to do so. "dude, its not as bad as driving drunk".

I'm not justifying driving while impared in anyway, I've never driven drunk, nore stoned, and hopefuly will never be put in the situation. If all goes back to my main intention of starting this post, our youth dies more from alcohol than any other drug, so why does our goverment spend money on worthless commercials that cleary aren't preventing kids from using pot.

Pearl Jam and toast

Will1659 wrote:

This is a bullshit argument. People who are going to do "hard drugs" are likely to have smoked weed at some point as well, but I know (as I'm sure many others do) tons of people who have smoked weed but never done anything more.

Almost every single anti-marijuana argument is complete bullshit.

They see 1 guy on heroin who has smoked weed in the past and call it a gateway drug ignoring the 10,000 people who never went beyond weed to that 1 guy.

Alchohol kills far more people than marijuana even has the potential to.

We've had this debate countless times on this forum and the anti-drug argument failed miserably in every one of them.

Skitch Patterson

Pearl Jam and toast wrote:

We've had this debate countless times on this forum and the anti-drug argument failed miserably in every one of them.

if it were made legal, how do you test for Smoking and Driving?

Fahka

the only reason mary jane is illegal, is because the government would have no way to put tax on it. Plain and simple.



Back to the commericals, haha. I saw one the other day that had this kid on a couch with his friend ("i never killed anyone, went crazy, blah blah smoking pot, i never did bigger drugs and over dose on heroin because of weed, i just sat on whoevers couch, and didnt do anything") or something... and all the while they have these other kids in the background playing sports and shit. All the while i was thinking "well fuck! 9 out of 10 accidents happen while playing sports lol so basically, the message i got was ... wow, smoke pot and you wont break your legs, kill yourself, or be disfigured.

MichaelMcKevin

cutback wrote:

I think miller thinks it's still the 50's. Gateway drug?!? If you want to use that as your argument then cigarettes and alcohol are at the front of this magical gateway. I didn't smoke weed first, I drank beer. Course once I found the weed . . .

As a 20 yr old college student and friend of the reefer, I think I can give some truthful input.

IT IS A GATEWAY DRUG: Smoking pot doesn't necessarily mean that you will try other drugs. It will make a lot of people more willing to try. I speak for many when I say I would never have done some of the shit I've done before i smoked pot. Reason being, it's the most harmless of narcotics. People SUBCONSIOUSLY think "Hmm i was afraid to smoke pot once, and it's not that bad" and push the envelope further. Rarely will you meet anyone that's dropped a hit of acid or rolled on ecstasy that hasn't smoked pot quite a bit.

My own experiences: Smoking weed affects people differently. I've met people who have become doctors and graduated college with 4.0's that smoked nearly every day throughout their college experience... but unfortunately it makes me lazy and pretty dumb. I still smoke, but a lot less often. It used to be on average once a day and now it's more like once every two weeks and only on certain occasions. I'd still experiment with a little bit of other stuff, not to name anything. I do a lot of research on anything before I even consider doing it.

The commericals are KIND OF right, but much exaggerated. There have been a lot of times where I've done some dumb shit similar to what you see in the commercials. I think this country has a hell of a lot bigger problems than marijuana though. Anyway, it felt good to get that out.

TransplantedNewf

In my opinion, you should'nt drive whether drunk OR stoned. Both are mind altering.

Pearl Jam and toast

Skitch Patterson wrote:

if it were made legal, how do you test for Smoking and Driving?

Who cares about testing for that anyway? If their driving is reckless or endangering others arrest them for that not drug use.

Pearl Jam and toast

GivenToCarve wrote:

My own experiences: Smoking weed affects people differently. I've met people who have become doctors and graduated college with 4.0's that smoked nearly every day throughout their college experience... but unfortunately it makes me lazy and pretty dumb. I still smoke, but a lot less often. It used to be on average once a day and now it's more like once every two weeks and only on certain occasions. I'd still experiment with a little bit of other stuff, not to name anything. I do a lot of research on anything before I even consider doing it.

truth. (i like your whole post, but this esp.)

Skitch Patterson

Pearl Jam and toast wrote:

Who cares about testing for that anyway? If their driving is reckless or endangering others arrest them for that not drug use.

So drunk driving should not be prosecuted either?

jeffbr

upina2001 wrote:

Driving stoned comes down to paying attention. If you pay attention when you drive anyway, there isnt a problem. Just got to make sure you are "situated" before you leave.

Complete and total bullshit. If you don't believe your judgement is impaired by smoking pot, your judgement has probably been impaired by smoking pot.

MichaelMcKevin

jeffbr wrote:

Complete and total bullshit. If you don't believe your judgement is impaired by smoking pot, your judgement has probably been impaired by smoking pot.

I agree. Upina should smoke a blunt to his face and see how much his reaction time slows

WickedJeremy

JWBusher wrote:

What happens is...teenagers who believe these commercials and TV shows try weed eventually and see that it's nothing like they've been told...they realize it's all been bullshit...and then they proceed to smoke it happily because it feels unthreatening.

Smoking weed is bad for the same reason that smoking cigarettes is bad...you're smoking something...nothing more, nothing less. I don't buy into this "mind-altering" crap because there are lots of things that alter the mind...stress, television, religion, TORTURE...weed is pussy shit compared to that stuff.

I was gonna reply very similarly to this. I'm glad I read on a bit first. You hit the nail on the head. Something that comes to my mind is the fact that the adult human who has never even smoked or drank anything, totally straight human...this human is a fuc--, messed up machine. Most humans are completely ignorant if not stupid. Stepping on each other's toes and not even noticing. Like a bunch of fish jumping up outof the water just so they can talk about the air. My point? THEIR MINDS NEED TO BE ALTERED! At worst, a guy smoking weed will give to the laziness and be a toad on his couch. What do we care? You got all these people yelling freedom while demanding conformity. "We should care, they'll kill society!" BULLSHIT! Society is dead.

WickedJeremy

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Pearl Jam and toast

Skitch Patterson wrote:

So drunk driving should not be prosecuted either?

If somebody causes harm driving get them for that. If it turns out they were drunk or high - which can be determined easily through observation and then testing (occording to my doctor they can test for amount of and how long a drug has been in your system) get them for that too.

It's irresponsible.

I really don't see the issue here with how this would be handled.

Pearl Jam and toast

WickedJeremy wrote:

Check this out man, I smoked daily for a few years and quit. After a year of not having any I started again. I smoked for another year without my wife knowing, my mom knowing or even my friends. It was a test. See my family ws on my back telling me my problems were all coming from the pot. I couldn't see it that way (turns out I was right). So anyway, one day I quized them. Asked them how they thought I'd been doing and things, how our relationsship felt to them now-a-days. And everyone was like, "Yeah, it's great." Everyone is happy with how I've been and impressed. I went back to school, developed my business a little more, took on a second job and this summer I'll be going into Computer Networking. So after my family admitted all was swell, I dropped the bomb, By the way, I've been smoking for the last year I told them. I proved my case.

Now, I'm not typing this up to say, Hey, weed isn't harmful, go smoke it. I'm not saying that at all. I admit I am a rare case when I look at other's around me who smoke. I'm a big fan of the mind. And I am content. I can see a future clear enough to set meaningful goals. Life is shit, I still say, but I'm cool.

No, I'm just saying I'm not on crack, meth or whatnot, no Gateway ever presented itself. But, it is for some a gateway, these kids meet these dealers...Now I don't mean your friends uncle who sells a little weed. No, I'm talking about a real dealer, the Joker, the Pusherman. He be dropping rope these kids climb. Climb a rope of dope up a slope they can't cope,...okay I'm digressing, better stop me before I begin, but let me say, "If I behave can you arrange a spacious hole in the ground? Somewhere nice. Make it nice."

And yes, where the land meets the high tide.

Outstanding.

I'd like to add just a bit more..

If someone goes and does meth or coke it's not because they've smoked weed, it's because of the million other things that steered them there.

yosi1

I know the gateway argument seems silly, but I'm going to speak from my own personal experience only. I personally never thought I'd do anything harder than pot, but after smoking a LOT of pot (I mean every day for much of highschool), I felt much more inclined to try harder drugs (like mushrooms). And I was someone who at this point in my life had never gotten drunk or smoked cigarettes. I know that it is not necessarily the same for all people, and its probably not as true as many people who have a problem with weed make out to be, but I kind of see weed as a getway drug. I don't necessarily think weed is bad if used in moderation, and I think many people who do harders drugs would have done them anyway, and not because of weed. But I do believe that weed is a step on the rung to trying other drugs.