$145 Million

harrymanbackharrymanback Posts: 435
edited January 2008 in A Moving Train
President Bush calls for $145 billion in tax relief to let "Americans keep more of their money ... this will most likely come in the form of rebates.

Aren't there a lot of better things to do with this large wad of cash?
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  • jeffbrjeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    President Bush calls for $145 billion in tax relief to let "Americans keep more of their money ... this will most likely come in the form of rebates.

    Aren't there a lot of better things to do with this large wad of cash?

    Whose large wad of cash is it?

    I know I could think of better things to do with my money than funding the Iraq war or giving it to other countries.
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  • chromiamchromiam Posts: 4,114
    Hmmm give people their money back with the thought that they'll spend it on goods and services, but with the reality that they need the money to pay mortgages and credit card bills.... wonder if that will stimulate the economy....
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  • JSBEJSBE Posts: 1,078
    chromiam wrote:
    Hmmm give people their money back with the thought that they'll spend it on goods and services, but with the reality that they need the money to pay mortgages and credit card bills.... wonder if that will stimulate the economy....

    all i know is that if i get an extra $500 or $800 or whatever the amount is for an individual it is going towards credit card debt.
  • chromiamchromiam Posts: 4,114
    JSBE wrote:
    all i know is that if i get an extra $500 or $800 or whatever the amount is for an individual it is going towards credit card debt.

    same here... or I can buy a fraction of an ounce of gold ;)
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  • Pacomc79Pacomc79 Posts: 9,404
    If it goes to credit and debt it will help bail out the banks who are currently the ones that are causing this market correction we are in now, because they are screwed by all of the bad loans.


    If you are in debt the absolute best thing you can spend money on is paying it down. Debt is a ball and chain. Solvency is freedom.
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  • chromiamchromiam Posts: 4,114
    Pacomc79 wrote:
    If it goes to credit and debt it will help bail out the banks who are currently the ones that are causing this market correction we are in now, because they are screwed by all of the bad loans.


    If you are in debt the absolute best thing you can spend money on is paying it down. Debt is a ball and chain. Solvency is freedom.

    So basically its a bank bailout without giving the money directly to banks or even guaranteeing it will get there. Kinda how I looked at it.
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  • PJ_LukinPJ_Lukin Posts: 2,055
    I'll pay one month of my health insurance premium with mine. Then buy 1 tank of gas.

    He is so fucked. How about not spending 40,000 kazillionbillion dollars in Iraq?
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  • macgyver06macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    how does he plan to afford this tax cut...are people fucking stupid... WE ARE IN DEBT. BUSH WANTS TO MAKE STUPID PEOPLE FEEL BETTER TEMPORARILY.....its a joke guys....
  • macgyver06macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    If I get an $800 check from this stupid government I'm going to buy a acre in Baghdad.


    im going to rip it up...im not a fucking slave and never will be..




    TEAR IT UP!!!!
  • macgyver06macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    everyone from the pit should gather together and have a mass burning of these checks.... Bush is trying buy people off like he tried to do with the texas rangers and his shitty oil companies and dick cheneys halliburton
  • Pacomc79Pacomc79 Posts: 9,404
    macgyver06 wrote:
    everyone from the pit should gather together and have a mass burning of these checks.... Bush is trying buy people off like he tried to do with the texas rangers and his shitty oil companies and dick cheneys halliburton



    How can you buy people off with thier own money?

    why would I burn money that I earned?


    Ok, is it a stupid idea to spend money out the yang and also cut taxes? Of course. But I'm not throwing away my own money if I don't have to. I'll just invest it.


    It dosen't make me feel any different about the worst president in all phases of all time.
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  • macgyver06 wrote:
    im going to rip it up...im not a fucking slave and never will be..

    Do what you like.
  • If I get an $800 check from this stupid government I'm going to buy a acre in Baghdad.


    I nominate this as post of the day! :D
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  • godpt3godpt3 Posts: 1,020
    macgyver06 wrote:
    everyone from the pit should gather together and have a mass burning of these checks.... Bush is trying buy people off like he tried to do with the texas rangers and his shitty oil companies and dick cheneys halliburton

    no, what everyone needs to do is open up a savings account
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  • macgyver06macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    Pacomc79 wrote:
    How can you buy people off with thier own money?

    why would I burn money that I earned?


    this money can be put into the country....instead he wants you to go to wal mart and the gas station... why would bush want people to do this... you are paying over 6 dollars a gallon for gasoline... he wants to fund the war!!!!
  • surferdudesurferdude Posts: 2,057
    If I get an $800 check from this stupid government I'm going to buy a acre in Baghdad.
    I say let's pool our resources and create a PJ Ponderosa on Baghdad. Hell, I'm a Canadian and I can come up with the $800 for this. I've spent money in more foolish ways in the past.
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  • Pacomc79Pacomc79 Posts: 9,404
    chromiam wrote:
    So basically its a bank bailout without giving the money directly to banks or even guaranteeing it will get there. Kinda how I looked at it.


    That's Exactly what it is. "compassionate conservativism"

    He just never understood the rampant spending issue.....uh George....have you seen the freaking deficit????
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  • floyd1975floyd1975 Posts: 1,350
    Pacomc79 wrote:
    How can you buy people off with thier own money?

    why would I burn money that I earned?

    That's not the proper anti-Bush mentality. The proper way to think is that all money belongs to the Government. The working citizens are nothing more than individual entitlement program recipients and the part of our salary that the Government is nice enough to pay to us is all just a bonus.
  • Pacomc79 wrote:
    How can you buy people off with thier own money?

    why would I burn money that I earned?


    Exactly, it's like saying here, this is already yours....huuh...aren't I so clever and special?

    Now bow to me and hail me as your leader!
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  • macgyver06macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    Do what you like.


    i cant be bought...this is not a choice of mine...its my ideal...while you can think im stupid for not taking it...i think i will be better off in the long run without it.


    800 dollars doesnt mean a gad damned thing to me when my friends are getting blown to pieces in an illegal occupation..


    to hell with this government..and if you spend this check....your a slave.
  • macgyver06macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    surferdude wrote:
    I say let's pool our resources and create a PJ Ponderosa on Baghdad. Hell, I'm a Canadian and I can come up with the $800 for this. I've spent money in more foolish ways in the past.


    hehe me too! if we could get a lot of people on here to pool the money together...we could probably buy a nuclear weapon and declare ourselves independent..of course our first order of action would have to lead to turning jlew over to the mexican federales
  • floyd1975floyd1975 Posts: 1,350
    macgyver06 wrote:
    this money can be put into the country....

    We have a different definition of what makes up this country. I consider the people to be the country.
  • macgyver06 wrote:
    i cant be bought...this is not a choice of mine...its my ideal...while you can think im stupid for not taking it...i think i will be better off in the long run without it.

    Chill...I just told you to do what you like. I meant that literally.
    800 dollars doesnt mean a gad damned thing to me when my friends are getting blown to pieces in an illegal occupation..

    Ok. I think that's good perspective, for what it's worth.
    to hell with this government..

    Sure.
    and if you spend this check....your a slave.

    Whoah...so if I spend money that it rightfully mine on what I choose to spend it on, I'm a slave? You have a weird definition of "slave".
  • jeffbrjeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    macgyver06 wrote:
    i cant be bought...this is not a choice of mine...its my ideal...while you can think im stupid for not taking it...i think i will be better off in the long run without it.


    800 dollars doesnt mean a gad damned thing to me when my friends are getting blown to pieces in an illegal occupation..


    to hell with this government..and if you spend this check....your a slave.

    This makes no sense at all. It is already your money. So if you won't spend this on anything, why would you spend any of your other money on anything? Are you actually saying you never spend any money on goods? Wow.
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  • surferdude wrote:
    I say let's pool our resources and create a PJ Ponderosa on Baghdad. Hell, I'm a Canadian and I can come up with the $800 for this. I've spent money in more foolish ways in the past.

    I'm digging this...
  • Pacomc79Pacomc79 Posts: 9,404
    macgyver06 wrote:
    i cant be bought...this is not a choice of mine...its my ideal...while you can think im stupid for not taking it...i think i will be better off in the long run without it.


    800 dollars doesnt mean a gad damned thing to me when my friends are getting blown to pieces in an illegal occupation..


    to hell with this government..and if you spend this check....your a slave.

    dude, the 800 dollars is yours to begin with. The best thing you can do is cash it and give it away if you don't want to be a slave. Fund a soup kitchen with it. Donate it to charity. Buy 8 suits for homless people give them a shower and see if you can't help them find employment.

    It's not coming from the government. It's your money that you are getting back from the government so they can't spend it on occupation...they get that money from Chinese investors...
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  • macgyver06macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    Chill...I just told you to do what you like. I meant that literally.



    Ok. I think that's good perspective, for what it's worth.



    Sure.



    Whoah...so if I spend money that it rightfully mine on what I choose to spend it on, I'm a slave? You have a weird definition of "slave".



    why is the check gonna be under 1000 dollars than??? and is it gonna be under a thousand dollars for someone who makes 2 million dolllars a year???
  • macgyver06macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    Pacomc79 wrote:
    dude, the 800 dollars is yours to begin with. The best thing you can do is cash it and give it away if you don't want to be a slave. Fund a soup kitchen with it. Donate it to charity. Buy 8 suits for homless people give them a shower and see if you can't help them find employment.

    It's not coming from the government. It's your money that you are getting back from the government so they can't spend it on occupation...they get that money from Chinese investors...




    bullllllllllllllllll shit...they are funding the war with your money and you dont even know it.... the money you will be getting is stolen from others.. its like the bizzaro robin hood
  • macgyver06 wrote:
    why is the check gonna be under 1000 dollars than???

    Why? Because this government determined that $800 and $1,600 are appropriate amounts for bribing the public.
    and is it gonna be under a thousand dollars for someone who makes 2 million dolllars a year???

    Yes. It's what you all have been asking for -- a $150 Billion orgy of wealth redistribution! Good times...
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