It's Sarah Palin

DixieN

cincybearcat wrote:

Personally, I don't want a woman that can handle a firearm.

And that brings me to another point, not said in jest, that many conservative men will probably not be happy with the thought of a woman a heart-beat away from the presidency--a woman with no more experience than Obama...and possibly less. McCain might put off a few conservative men with this choice to further weaken Palin as a pick.

Open

cincybearcat wrote:

By the way...I think this is a terrific pick.

I look forward to learning even more about her and hope she can help be the future of the republican party.

I can see it know...Obama talks of change then picks a guy that's been in the Senate since 1972 to be his top white guy. While McCain's first major decision as a presidential candiate is picking a woman VP...which of those is change?

I'm pretty excited for the next couple of months.

Actually, i think it just says that republicans will once again count on the ignorance and laziness of the american people...nothing more nothing less.

kenny olav

it's a ridiculous pick. it's part of his losing strategy.

Purple Hawk

DixieN wrote:

If he had chosen a more centrist woman on the issue of abortion, then he might have had something.

You realize women are more pro-life than men are? although the difference is not very large. (See Morris Fiorina 2001 and 2004).

One of the biggest myths is that being pro-life turns off female voters. If Palin were to turn off female voters, it would be her economic stances.

Purple Hawk

DixieN wrote:

And that brings me to another point, not said in jest, that many conservative men will probably not be happy with the thought of a woman a heart-beat away from the presidency.

it must be depressing to live in such a twisted, alternative universe.

take a step back from the group think and identity politics...

the left ARE the divisive ones, constantly playing groups against one another..."drilling for fear" you are constantly projecting your own whacked out view of the reality of the world on the other side and BASELESSLY paint them as racists, sexists, bigots, and homophobes...it's become tiresome. get a new strategy.

fuck

why do people think her being pro-life will matter? they won't overturn roe v wade...

Purple Hawk

_outlaw wrote:

why do people think her being pro-life will matter? they won't overturn roe v wade...

my point is that the issue of life is not a "women's" issue. women are more pro-life than men. women are more likely to be libs b/c of economic policies.

Purple Hawk

stupidcorporatewhore wrote:

I certainly don't underestimate the stupidity and ignorance of U.S voters

My heart disagrees with the idea that American voters are stupid...i have great belief in the American individual...

but when you have so many people who think that Bill Clinton was impeached b/c he got a blow job and you have so many people that actually think Bush won 2004 because of gay marriage initiatives...

you are right, there is a certain portion of the American electorate that IS stupid.

whitepants

_outlaw wrote:

why do people think her being pro-life will matter? they won't overturn roe v wade...

Fuckin' A! The sooner everyone else gets a clue and realize this, then no one will be scared into thinking that Roe v Wade will be overturned. It's a favorite debate topic, that's all it is. It's too crucial of a hot button to continue to be used to keep people in line.

It ain't going nowhere.

kenny olav

I forgot who among us introduced me to WomenForJohnMcCain.com but today's story is SOOOO GREAT


Meet Sarah Palin

August 29, 2008

Women for John McCain are proud to welcome John McCain’s pick for Vice President of the United States of America, Sarah Palin - proving that John McCain and the Republican Party are only a quarter century behind the Democrats when it comes to women.

There she is... Miss Alaska Runner Up... With less experience than Dan Quayle, Sarah Palin will be stiff debate competition for Joe Biden.

Only a true Maverick™ like John McCain could make a bold choice like Sarah Palin to be one heartbeat away from the presidency of a 72 year old, four-time cancer patient who “could” live through his own presidency:

U.S. life expectancy at birth is about 78 years…[f]or a seventy-something president, that could work out to two terms in office.

As Palin said in an interview with CNBC one month ago today, “As for that VP talk all the time, I’ll tell you, I still can’t answer that question until somebody answers for me what is it exactly that the VP does every day?”

Currently under an Alaska state ethics investigation, and with a reputation as a temperamental “Barracuda” with “a predatory instinct that Palin could turn on friend as well as foe” complementing McCain’s reputation as “McNasty” and “Senator Hothead“, Sarah Palin brings broad appeal and a record of qualification and experience to the ticket that the Obama-Biden campaign can’t hope to match.

Sarah Palin appeals to a crucial swing voter constituency in this election: militantly anti-choice, anti gay rights, disaffected Hillary Clinton supporters who favor teaching creationism in public schools, are lifetime, card-carrying NRA members, supported Pat Buchanan’s run for president, and support oil drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge as their signature issue.

“…Senator McCain is wrong on that issue. …I think those politicians who don’t understand that… you know, they’re living in La-La Land. And we’re in a world of hurt if their agenda continues…”

John McCain knows a thing or two about former beauty queens decades younger than he is. As former Miss Wasilla, Sarah Palin played the flute, won the title of “Miss Congeniality”, and went on to place second in the Miss Alaska competition, before going on to work “short stints as a television sportscaster for Anchorage stations, ‘between babies’,” (Palin is considered a hero by anti-abortion activists for carrying her fifth child to term after early prenatal tests revealed the baby would be born with Down Syndrome) and doing a winter style photoshoot for Vogue.

The strategy of the John McCain campaign has been based on portraying Obama as inexperienced - and with over one year of experience as the governor of the nation’s 47th most populous state, extensive military experience defending our nation from the looming threat of invasion by Siberian Yupiks - and previous executive experience as part-time mayor and city council member of the city of Wasilla, Alaska (population 5,500), Sarah Palin adds major foreign policy heft to the ticket, as the woman who will be a heartbeat away from the presidency.

With this choice, McCain is signaling that he is preparing for ideological battle, appealing to the far-right social conservative base that he called “agents of intolerance” when he ran against George Bush in 2000.

They hope to attract women who don’t know her, and perhaps even some who don’t yet believe that women’s reproductive health is genuinely threatened by policies reducing access to contraception currently proposed by the Bush Administration, and by the promise to overturn Roe v. Wade that McCain has underscored with Palin’s selection.

Conservative icon Pat Buchanan called Palin’s selection, “the biggest political gamble, just about, in American political history. This will energize the base.” Palin was a supporter of Pat Buchanan when he ran for President.

Former Republican Congressman and host of MSNBC’s Morning Joe, Joe Scarborough said, “If John McCain’s campaign thinks he can get Hillary Clinton voters by choosing Palin it is condescending and insulting to women and it is a terrible political faux pax.”

No announcement has yet been made regarding Mitt, Tim, Bobby, Joe and Mike commiserating with Carol McCain for being abandoned for a much younger former beauty queen.

decides2dream

_outlaw wrote:

wow, McCain's got this election...

:eek:
shut your mouth!



(and i say/mean that in the nicest way possible!)







Sarah Palin appeals to a crucial swing voter constituency in this election: militantly anti-choice, anti gay rights, disaffected Hillary Clinton supporters who favor teaching creationism in public schools, are lifetime, card-carrying NRA members, supported Pat Buchanan’s run for president, and support oil drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge as their signature issue



*shudders*


and



They hope to attract women who don’t know her, and perhaps even some who don’t yet believe that women’s reproductive health is genuinely threatened by policies reducing access to contraception currently proposed by the Bush Administration, and by the promise to overturn Roe v. Wade that McCain has underscored with Palin’s selection.


Former Republican Congressman and host of MSNBC’s Morning Joe, Joe Scarborough said, “If John McCain’s campaign thinks he can get Hillary Clinton voters by choosing Palin it is condescending and insulting to women and it is a terrible political faux pax.”




HELL FUCKIN' YEA IT IS!

Brain of J.Lo

decides2dream wrote:

Former Republican Congressman and host of MSNBC’s Morning Joe, Joe Scarborough said, “If John McCain’s campaign thinks he can get Hillary Clinton voters by choosing Palin it is condescending and insulting to women and it is a terrible political faux pax.”




HELL FUCKIN' YEA IT IS!

I always know things have gone haywire when I start seeing eye to eye with Joe Scarborough!!!

CorporateWhore

Kenny Olav wrote:

Sarah Palin appeals to a crucial swing voter constituency in this election: militantly anti-choice, anti gay rights, disaffected Hillary Clinton supporters who favor teaching creationism in public schools, are lifetime, card-carrying NRA members, supported Pat Buchanan’s run for president, and support oil drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge as their signature issue.

Awesome!!!

She's got my vote motherfuckers!

Haha, this is just the beginning. You leftist nutjobs will rue the day you nominated that moron Obama. He's going to lose, and McCain will take away your abortion and your homo marriages. Cry about it.

Honestly, the Right wing of this nation is building up because of bullshit like that website. For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. And when the Right comes down on you, it will be like a fuckin hammer.

Brain of J.Lo

CorporateWhore wrote:

Awesome!!!

She's got my vote motherfuckers!

Haha, this is just the beginning. You leftist nutjobs will rue the day you nominated that moron Obama. He's going to lose, and McCain will take away your abortion and your homo marriages. Cry about it.

Honestly, the Right wing of this nation is building up because of bullshit like that website. For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. And when the Right comes down on you, it will be like a fuckin hammer.

I'm proud to be considered a nutjob by people like you.

decides2dream

Brain of J.Lo wrote:

I always know things have gone haywire when I start seeing eye to eye with Joe Scarborough!!!

to hell in a handbasket!




seriously, the more i think about it...i think....what a pawn. obviously though, a willing pawn...b/c given her political leanings and choices, a far-right conservative woman - it just seems 'wrong' to even write that ........she obviously does support the same ideals as mccain, so they ARE well-suited running mates. had to go all the way to alaska to strike gold.

digster

CorporateWhore wrote:

Haha, this is just the beginning. You leftist nutjobs will rue the day you nominated that moron Obama. He's going to lose, and McCain will take away your abortion and your homo marriages. Cry about it.

.

Wow, I had no idea. You're a complete fucking idiot. Thanks for alerting me.

Considering 80% of the country thinks your guy in the white house is doing a complete bullshit job, I'd say we're in pretty good shape. But thanks for playing.

CorporateWhore

Purple Hawk wrote:

My heart disagrees with the idea that American voters are stupid...i have great belief in the American individual...

This country never operated on a reliance upon the individual. Always, strong men have stepped up and taken the reins. A few powerful white men took control and made this country what it is, whether you like it or not.

The American individual is pretty stupid and probably doesn't even know who Sarah Palin is. Probably most Americans won't know when/if they vote.

That's what we're dealing with here.

And that is why we need a Far Right wing extremist to take the reins and put things right.

digster

CorporateWhore wrote:

This country never operated on a reliance upon the individual. Always, strong men have stepped up and taken the reins. A few powerful white men took control and made this country what it is, whether you like it or not.

Yeah, because they were busy enslaving everybody else.

CorporateWhore

digster wrote:

Wow, I had no idea. You're a complete fucking idiot. Thanks for alerting me.

Considering 80% of the country thinks your guy in the white house is doing a complete bullshit job, I'd say we're in pretty good shape. But thanks for playing.

My guy?

Don't get me started on Bush. He's not a conservative - he's a neo-con. Huge difference.

Look: my ideal president would abolish the legislature and the supreme court, destroy all of the abortion clinics, bring the troops home and put them on the border, and kick out all of the immigrants.

Democracy is a crock of shit and you're just playing into the whole stupid game by taking sides, claiming I'm on Bush's side, whatever that is.

I'm on the Right side. And that side won't win until leftists are out of this country.

stupidcorporatewhore

Purple Hawk wrote:

My heart disagrees with the idea that American voters are stupid...i have great belief in the American individual...

but when you have so many people who think that Bill Clinton was impeached b/c he got a blow job and you have so many people that actually think Bush won 2004 because of gay marriage initiatives...

you are right, there is a certain portion of the American electorate that IS stupid.

I absolutely agree.

I meant to say roughly half of American voters

My mother in Law refuses to vote for Obama because she is convinced he is a muslim. Offensive on two levels considering that what she means by muslim is of course, terrorist.

my father in law is voting for Obama but has a friend who is not voting for obama because he's black. Offensive on two levels considering it's one thing to keep racism to yourself, but another to admit it to another person....

sigh. So if that's not ignorance and stupidity I don't know what is.