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Four thousand American service men and women have died in the illegal invasion/war in Iraq just passing the 5 year anniversary.
How many more will die?
How many more will die?
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Probably a lot more. Not as many as the amount of Iraqis that have died thus far though.
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no but its like me setting fort in your living room and refusing to leave... while i drink alll your precious precious milk and kill your pets... you know... to liberate future pets you dictating bastard!
ahh when the citizens realize we are stealing the key ingredient to the success of their future.... they will KILL ALL AMERICAN SOLDIERS THERE
and the gov't knows this and they dont care....
your soldiers arent coming home.
Good Riddance!
I'm not sure what you mean by a "universal law" but I think you have forgotten about the UN resolutions against invasion against Iraq which bush and blair chose to ignore? That's what makes this war illegal.
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Unfortunately with all this politicing that has everyone sold....a lot more will continue to needlessly die. :(
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Didn't you hear? This war is to keep us safe. Without it, how many MORE Americans could Iraqis have killed? Wait, Sadaam was responsible for 9/11 right?
Oi... Anyone want to move to Costa Rica with me?
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http://abcnews.go.com/WN/Politics/story?id=4513250&page=1
What a fucking douchebag
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My brother works for the Army Core of Engineers. And for some crazy reason he volunteered to go work in Iraqi for 6 months.
Anyway, if something were to happen to him (which I doubt will, but you never know) does he count towards the Military causality total? And if not, then what is the number of Americans, not just soldiers that have died over there?
bush never got a war resolution for iraq, he just tacked it on to Afghanistan. He also made a falsified case.
If a soldier is wounded in Iraq and airlifted to germany and dies in a hospital there it's not registered as an Iraq casuality.
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Ever heard of the United Nations Security Council?
http://www.littleleague.org/media/whitman_memorial.asp
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It's about a Baseball Little League in Whitman, Mass. They wanted to honour the fallen soldiers in the Iraq War by writing the names of the war dead on a baseball and placing it in a wall behind the backstop at homeplate. They had originally built a wall that would hold 900 baseballs and by October of 2005, the number was 1,400.
I thought it was a nice story because I like baseball and I like our military.
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I wonder what that wall looks like today. They needed to add 2,600 more baseballs to the wall... 2,600 more name to write... 2,600 more people they know are not coming back home. I also wonder about those kids. If they were 13 when the wall began... they are 18 now. I wonder if they still go tohe the park an look at the wall. I wonder if they wonder... how many more baseballs will we need?
Hail, Hail!!!
So... does this mean that Colin Powell was correct... we actually bought Iraq?
Hail, Hail!!!
This is true, In one form or another we are going to be there for a long long time. it matters not what the politicians are saying the permanent bases will be there and so will soldiers to protect, therefore soldiers will surely die.
SADLY, The animosity towards this country will NOT dissipate any time soon.
Peace
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The animosity towards what country? The U.S or Iraq?
Didn't notice you were in another country, I talking about these United States of America.
Peace
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http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/25/us/25dead.web.html?hp
U.S. Death Toll in Iraq War Hits 4,000
By LIZETTE ALVAREZ and ANDREW W. LEHREN
Published: March 25, 2008
By the time Specialist Jerry Ryen King decided to write about his experiences in Iraq, the teen-age paratrooper had more to share than most other soldiers.
In two operations to clear the outskirts of the village of Turki in the deadly Diyala Province, Specialist King and the rest of the Fifth Squadron faced days of firefights, grenade attacks and land mines. Well-trained insurgents had burrowed deep into muddy canals, a throwback to the trenches of World War I. As the fighting wore on, B-1 bombers and F-16s were called in to drop a series of powerful bombs.
Once the area was clear of insurgents, the squadron, part of the 82nd Airborne Division, uncovered hidden caches with thousands of weapons.
Two months later, Specialist King, a handsome former honors student and double-sport athlete from Georgia, sat down at his computer. In informal but powerful prose, he began a journal.
"After 232 long, desolate, morose, but somewhat days of tranquility into deployment, I’ve decided that I should start writing some of the things I experienced here in Iraq. I have to say that the events that I have encountered here have changed my outlook on life...
The most recent mission started out as a 24-36 hour air-assault sniper mission in a known al-Qaida stronghold just north of Baghdad. We landed a few hours before daybreak and as soon as I got off the helicopter my night vision broke, I was surrounded by the sound of artillery rounds, people screaming in Arabic, automatic weapons, and the terrain didn’t look anything like what we were briefed. I knew it was going to be a bad day and a half."
Jerry Ryen King, journal entry, March 7, 2007
A month later, Specialist King was sitting inside his combat outpost, an abandoned school in Sadah, when suicide bombers exploded two dump trucks just outside the building. The school collapsed, killing Specialist King on April 23, 2007, along with eight other soldiers, and making the blast one of the most lethal for Americans fighting in Iraq.
In that instant, Specialist King became one of 4,000 service members and Defense Department civilians to die in the Iraq war — a milestone that was reached late Sunday, five years since the war began in March 2003. The last four members of that group, like the majority of the most recent 1,000 to die, were killed by an improvised explosive device. They died at 10 p.m. Sunday on a patrol in Baghdad, military officials said; their names have not yet been released...
I weep for every service man and woman lost, but at the risk of sounding crassly pragmatic 4,000 KIA in 5 years is relatively modest for something as large scale as what I believe we are dealing with. 4900 were killed in one day in Normandy. 6900 dead and 18,700 wounded on one hill in Iwo Jima (a battle that ultimately proved to be almost entirely futile).
If you don't think terrorism is as serious of an issue as the advancement of the Axis powers then I guess nothing I say is to be considered. I would say what we are dealing with is far worse.
The only other real option is to pull out of everywhere and just hope for the best. The notion that you can "negotiate for peace" with these bastards is ridiculous, but if Sean Penn wants to go over and try I won't stop him.
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i hope they believe that their mission was worth trading their life. i know if i were one of those 4000 i would have felt ripped off dying for this bullshit mission and this bullshit president, but that is my opinion and i am entitled to it just like everyone else.
i just hope to God they believe it was worth it.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
I know you are trying to sound sympathetic but this tone actually comes off more condescending than anything. U.S. soldiers enlist voluntarily. If they didn't think they were doing their patriotic duty and preserving freedom they wouldn't join in the first place. They wouldn't re-enlist. They wouldn't volunteer for additional TOD's.
Regardless of their opinions on Iraq I wish some of the anti-war crowd could grasp this.
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Please explain how Iraq had anything to do with 'Islamo fascism' prior to the invasion. And did Iraq 'give off a 'whiff of sympathy for that cause'? No.
Obviously that is 4000 too many. Imagine what it was like in the 60's and 70's for Vietnam when an estimated 58,000 were killed, over 2,000 still missing, and over 300,000 were wounded. That war was just as unpopular, if not more.
314,000 "allied" troops killed, 1.1 Million NV killed
That isn't including the estimated 2,700,000 civilians that were killed.