Kerry Was Not Talking About The Troops

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  • kenny olavkenny olav Posts: 3,319
    Kenny Olav wrote:
    I don't know about the rest of you, but I cannot wait to see how the Daily Show handles this tonight.


    They nailed it. They absolutely nailed it.
  • chopitdownchopitdown Posts: 2,222
    Kenny Olav wrote:
    But the intention of his words were the same as the intention of the prepared text. I understand that Kerry's words sounded like an insult to the troops, but once he clarified what he meant, shouldn't that be enough??

    i'm not calling for Kerry's head. He did apologize and he said something very stupid...why would he insult, even in jest, the entity that would protect him if he became president? He's not a threat to win the nomination or the presidency; he should just quit trying to think that he's a player in the presidential realm and try to be a senator.

    But it's politics and it's not enough in that world (sadly). Look at how much slack bush gets from the left...even if he clarifies...which granted doesn't happen often.
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  • Kenny Olav wrote:
    They nailed it. They absolutely nailed it.


    Did you just quote yourself? LMAO That's awesome. I respect anyone who has the audacity to quote themselves, and then respond to it. LOL Classic.
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  • kenny olavkenny olav Posts: 3,319
    chopitdown wrote:
    i'm not calling for Kerry's head. He did apologize and he said something very stupid...why would he insult, even in jest, the entity that would protect him if he became president?


    Did you not notice the title of this thread? Did you miss the whole point of this? He did not insult the troops!!
  • kenny olavkenny olav Posts: 3,319
    Did you just quote yourself? LMAO That's awesome. I respect anyone who has the audacity to quote themselves, and then respond to it. LOL Classic.


    :D


    Colbert is killing on this too.
  • chopitdownchopitdown Posts: 2,222
    Kenny Olav wrote:
    Did you not notice the title of this thread? Did you miss the whole point of this? He did not insult the troops!!

    then why did he apologize to the troops who felt insulted? look, i can read and i know how he wanted it to come across, the bottom line is, it came across poorly and troops were insulted. If Bush isn't given the benefit of the doubt on mispeaking, why should Kerry get the benefit of the doubt. I personally don't care about Kerry. He's not my senator and he's just someone who wishes he was relevant in a presidential race and in his party.
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  • hippiemomhippiemom Posts: 3,326
    I just talked to my daughter and asked if her husband, a decorated Iraq war veteran, felt that John Kerry owed him an apology. Her response:

    "Don't be silly, he's smarter than that."
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  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    hippiemom wrote:
    I just talked to my daughter and asked if her husband, a decorated Iraq war veteran, felt that John Kerry owed him an apology. Her response:

    "Don't be silly, he's smarter than that."


    tell your daughters husband i said thank you for serving our country. he makes us proud.
  • kenny olavkenny olav Posts: 3,319
    chopitdown wrote:
    then why did he apologize to the troops who felt insulted? look, i can read and i know how he wanted it to come across, the bottom line is, it came across poorly and troops were insulted. If Bush isn't given the benefit of the doubt on mispeaking, why should Kerry get the benefit of the doubt. I personally don't care about Kerry. He's not my senator and he's just someone who wishes he was relevant in a presidential race and in his party.


    but before you wanted to know why he would insult the troops, which didn't sense to me since he did not intend to insult them.

    today Kerry said:

    "I sincerely regret that my words were misinterpreted to wrongly imply anything negative about those in uniform and I personally apologize to any service member, family member or American who was offended."



    I don't care much for Kerry either, though he is my Senator. I just don't want him to bring down the other Democrats who are running this year, some of whom I admire. It's conceivable that people would vote against their local Democratic candidates if they thought Kerry was disparaging the troops, because putting the Dems in control of the Congress lifts Kerry's status.
  • floyd1975floyd1975 Posts: 1,350
    Kenny Olav wrote:
    "I sincerely regret that my words were misinterpreted to wrongly imply anything negative about those in uniform and I personally apologize to any service member, family member or American who was offended."

    So it's everybody else's fault for misinterpreting his words now. That's kind of a half-assed apology. It would have been so much easier for him if he just said, after the event, something like, "I'm sorry...I misspoke." Bush could really do that a lot of times too.
  • Pacomc79Pacomc79 Posts: 9,404
    zstillings wrote:
    So it's everybody else's fault for misinterpreting his words now. That's kind of a half-assed apology. It would have been so much easier for him if he just said, after the event, something like, "I'm sorry...I misspoke." Bush could really do that a lot of times too.


    It's all you're really going to get from a politician anyway. Kudos to him for at least clarifying his point. I think it's funny that he would imply that poor people have to join the military to get by in life as if that was the only viable option but hey, it wasn't my joke. Obviously he was taking a shot at the administration but maybe he should leave the comedy up to Carlin next time.

    It's just funny that so many arguments here are based completely on ones interpretation of what was said, be it Bush, Kerry, whoever.

    98% of it is implied meaning and semantics. There's so much crap read into anything anyone says, it's almost akin to breaking down a QB's bad performance. The vast majority is hearsay

    There's no real news anymore politically, why even make statements?

    The brilliant folks are in the editing rooms deciding how to turn a phrase into the way they want their stories viewpoints to show. (yeah I love Agenda Setting theory)

    Everyone intelligent already knows where everyone else stands. It's why I hate the public school system....even the voting process is dumbed down to the lowest common denominator.

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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,446
    hippiemom wrote:
    I just talked to my daughter and asked if her husband, a decorated Iraq war veteran, felt that John Kerry owed him an apology. Her response:

    "Don't be silly, he's smarter than that."

    So now your daughter is cutting down the intelligence of the military? Nice. ;)

    Guess what...you son-in-law doesn't equal the entire military.

    ANyhow, I still don't care what J. Kerry said. He's an idiot for his many other ideas.
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  • callencallen Posts: 6,388
    Did you just quote yourself? LMAO That's awesome. I respect anyone who has the audacity to quote themselves, and then respond to it. LOL Classic.
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  • hippiemom wrote:
    I just talked to my daughter and asked if her husband, a decorated Iraq war veteran, felt that John Kerry owed him an apology. Her response:

    "Don't be silly, he's smarter than that."

    this has probably been said before...but, the apology, if one is to be demanded, should be demanded from the Bush II Administration. Even if Kerry had meant to disparage the troops...compare that to the laundry list of truly TERRIBLE things that bush has put in front of them and you have "whatever number vs. ONE"...

    i think it behooves kerry to apologize because his remarks were definitely such that they could be taken out of context. but, let's look at the REAL issue here, which is: bush, rumsfeld, cheney, and rice...have to take responsibility for the wrongful deaths, injuies, maimings, tortures, etc.
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