Why do you think you heard stupid and lazy - is that how you see those that don't go to or succeed in college?
Quit turning yourself into a stereotype by constantly switching focus and avoiding the questions. Are you a politician by chance?
OK - here's what Kerry said: "you study hard, you do your homework and you make an effort to be smart, you can do well. And if you don't, you get stuck in Iraq,"
Do you see where I pulled stupid and lazy from that?
And to answer your question, I have a very pessimistic view about college and do not equate success or brains or any other positive attitude with those who attend. Likewise, I do not view those who do not attend in a negative manner.
The only people we should try to get even with...
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
Anti-military? Surely you mean something other than you hate the troops. What do you mean by anti-military?
You couldn't have said something you didn't really mean but was just awkwardly stated, could you?
Actually, it's probably not phrased the best, but close to what I mean. I'm anti-war and anti-violence almost to the extreme. Therefore, I do not support killing people or violence...and that is what the military does. I don't exactly view it as a positive that people volunteer to do those things. I do not hate the troops in any way, though, as you implied.
The only people we should try to get even with...
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
Actually, it's probably not phrased the best, but close to what I mean.
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Maybe, maybe not. Even though I do not like what militaries do, I've been defending the choice of the people who enlist and recognizing that people join for reasons other than their stupid and lazy as he seemed to assert.
The only people we should try to get even with...
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
But, does he have a history of fumbling the wording of his jokes? Lame jokes are one thing, but making a good joke into a lame one by re-wording the punchline is another.
Anyone who believes John Kerry was attacking the men and women in the United States Military is a goddamn moron, plain and simple. No politician, especially one as successfull as John Kerry is going to do something that stupid.
Anyone who believes John Kerry was attacking the men and women in the United States Military is a goddamn moron, plain and simple. No politician, especially one as successfull as John Kerry is going to do something that stupid.
and just look at what he said in the 5 sentances before and after the one in question...he was talking about bush, had a slip of the tounge, and misspoke. he was not talking about the troops. should he maybe appologize for saying something by mistake that 2 people (rush and hannity) can take out of context, spin, and turn it into "kerry hates the troops" that the "liberal media" is pouncing all over for the past couple of days? maybe. but i was actually pleased with his speach yesterday...it showed he actually has some political balls, which i never saw in 2004...
and just look at what he said in the 5 sentances before and after the one in question...he was talking about bush, had a slip of the tounge, and misspoke. he was not talking about the troops. should he maybe appologize for saying something by mistake that 2 people (rush and hannity) can take out of context, spin, and turn it into "kerry hates the troops" that the "liberal media" is pouncing all over for the past couple of days? maybe. but i was actually pleased with his speach yesterday...it showed he actually has some political balls, which i never saw in 2004...
Your post provides no examples, just an unsupported statement. If you're referring to the words 'well documented' then why not provide this documentation?
I'm not going to jump through hoops for your entertainment. If it was a difficult thing to find I'd do it for you, but it's not. Use Google.
seeing as he's quite far to my right, i'm glad he's gone...i'm assuming you are referencing his segregationist past and his comments on strom thurman, who, of course, ran as a segregationist... as for his comments at the 100th birthday or whatever, i'd need a link to the speech to know exactly what he was talking about. he's not one of my favorites, i know that, and i know that i would never even show up for a celebration of someone who holds views such as those as he did for thurman...among various other things throughout the years...
seeing as he's quite far to my right, i'm glad he's gone...i'm assuming you are referencing his segregationist past and his comments on strom thurman, who, of course, ran as a segregationist... as for his comments at the 100th birthday or whatever, i'd need a link to the speech to know exactly what he was talking about. he's not one of my favorites, i know that, and i know that i would never even show up for a celebration of someone who holds views such as those as he did for thurman...among various other things throughout the years...
He misspoke much like Kerry. If you take his words literally, you should be taking Kerry's words literally.
He misspoke much like Kerry. If you take his words literally, you should be taking Kerry's words literally.
i didn't say i took his words literally...i said, as you can see above, that i would need the speech to know the context.
lott has given plenty of other reasons for me to think he's a piece of shit. he was against the voting rights act, the institution of a martin luther king holiday, and has been affiliated with the segregationist ticket for years...way before the thurman bday quote. overall, he is just not even close to where i am politically.
oh, and i think kerry sucks too, btw. he ran an inept campaign in 2004, and is a farily weak politician. while i do agree with him on more issues that lott, kerry is way weak.
i didn't say i took his words literally...i said, as you can see above, that i would need the speech to know the context.
lott has given plenty of other reasons for me to think he's a piece of shit. he was against the voting rights act, the institution of a martin luther king holiday, and has been affiliated with the segregationist ticket for years...way before the thurman bday quote. overall, he is just not even close to where i am politically.
oh, and i think kerry sucks too, btw. he ran an inept campaign in 2004, and is a farily weak politician. while i do agree with him on more issues that lott, kerry is way weak.
seeing as he's quite far to my right, i'm glad he's gone...i'm assuming you are referencing his segregationist past and his comments on strom thurman, who, of course, ran as a segregationist... as for his comments at the 100th birthday or whatever, i'd need a link to the speech to know exactly what he was talking about. he's not one of my favorites, i know that, and i know that i would never even show up for a celebration of someone who holds views such as those as he did for thurman...among various other things throughout the years...
Strom Thurmond did not hold those views anymore...people change...even for the better.
If Kerry was really commenting about Bush's lack of education, then that doesn't even make sense. Bush holds an advanced degree from an Ivy League University. That doesn't make the guy ultra-smart, but it doesn't make him uneducated either.
And he graduated with a "C" average.
"Winded is the sailor, drifting by the storm, wounded is the organ he left all bloodied on the shore...the smallest oceans still get Big Big waves..."
Postive thinking is the key, Postive doing is the door...
You see though, he didnt use the prepared text message. He didn't say those words. So is Kerry off the hook b/c of what he meant to say? We hold people accountable for what they say and do, not what they meant to say or do. I like watching the dems spin this now to try and cover this blunder.
"I don't know where he is [Osama Bin Laden] and quite frankly it doesn't concern me." George W. Bush, White House Press Conference
"The insurgency is in it's last throws" Dick Cheney, Fall 05 interview
"Sadaam Hussein has gone to great lengths to keep and build weapons of mass destruction." G.W. Bush
I totally agree with holding people accountable.
"Winded is the sailor, drifting by the storm, wounded is the organ he left all bloodied on the shore...the smallest oceans still get Big Big waves..."
Postive thinking is the key, Postive doing is the door...
He also has a well documented history of demeaning members of the United States Military, so maybe we should just follow established Kerry precedent and believe him when he called our troops stupid.
He's already called our troops terrorists, rapists, murderers, and baby killers.
He never said that the military en masse was guilty of these things.
You see though, he didnt use the prepared text message. He didn't say those words. So is Kerry off the hook b/c of what he meant to say? We hold people accountable for what they say and do, not what they meant to say or do. I like watching the dems spin this now to try and cover this blunder.
But the intention of his words were the same as the intention of the prepared text. I understand that Kerry's words sounded like an insult to the troops, but once he clarified what he meant, shouldn't that be enough??
You can't excuse it. It was a stupid thing to say and it shows a lot about what he thinks of the military.
No one is trying to excuse it. There is nothing to be excused. The statement simply needed to be explained. If he really meant it as an insult to the troops, I wouldn't excuse it.
If Kerry was a conservative...he already would have been stripped of any of his power in teh Senate..ala Trent Lott.
Comments taken out of context can kill a politicians career, and that is sad. Because I want politicians to be able to say EXACTLY what they tink at all times. Then I know where they stand instead of them being too PC and never showing their true thoughts.
I'm fairly sure Kenny Olav wasn't out there defending Trent.
I feel like I'm living in the Twilight Zone everytime I read a comment like this.
The beauty of this is that no matter what Kerry meant to say, it makes no difference at all to the next soldier who dies or the next civilllian. And it won't make any difference to the 100th soldier or cillivian that is killed from now either. But hey, keep pretending like it matters, wouldn't want to spoil your fun.
Actually they weren't. Bush had a 77 average and Kerry had a 76 average through 4 years at Yale. Both C's. Yes, it doesn't matter.
What does matter is you're still wrong.
Actually, no it doesn't matter if I'm wrong or not. But it's no joke that G.H.W.Bush made large contributions to Yale before and while his son was there. There were many reports on GW's grades slipping and his father bailing him out, using money and his Alumni status to convince Yale to keep him. Bush also has a considerable DUI record in Texas, as well as two failed business endeavors that he somehow managed to bankrupt but not end up in financial trouble himself.
Kerry worked his way through college.
Bush dodged military service by joinging the Texas National Guard and then didn't show up for duty.
Kerry toured Vietnam as I'm sure you know.
But NONE of this matters...not now. Bush is President, Kerry is not. The Democrats were right to ask Kerry not to tour with candidates, he DID misspeak and even as someone who voted for Kerry, whatever he said it didn't sound pro-troops. Regardless of what he meant. But I'd still rather have somone in office who can't decide how he feels about war, but DID go into combat, than someone who NEVER went into combat, relied on family money and support most of his life before becoming governor of my former state of residence, and by all evidence dodged what little duty he DID have as a member of the Texas Air National Guard.
Hey, speaking of psuedo-pilots, anyone remember Bush in front of a big sign on the USS Abraham...gosh...what did it say...? Oh that's right "MISSION ACCOMPLISHED" If the mission was public deception, misuse of American military forces, political backstabbing (John McCain ran for president, a REAL veteran, remember someone smearing his campaign?) and dividing the American public between red and blue, evangelical and not, gay or not, or RICH or not, then...you bet.
"Winded is the sailor, drifting by the storm, wounded is the organ he left all bloodied on the shore...the smallest oceans still get Big Big waves..."
Postive thinking is the key, Postive doing is the door...
Actually, no it doesn't matter if I'm wrong or not. But it's no joke that G.H.W.Bush made large contributions to Yale before and while his son was there. There were many reports on GW's grades slipping and his father bailing him out, using money and his Alumni status to convince Yale to keep him. Bush also has a considerable DUI record in Texas, as well as two failed business endeavors that he somehow managed to bankrupt but not end up in financial trouble himself.
Bush is our best example of the success of Affirmative Action . . . for rich white guys whose daddies and grand-daddies went to Ivy League universities.
"Things will just get better and better even though it
doesn't feel that way right now. That's the hopeful
idea . . . Hope didn't get much applause . . .
Hope! Hope is the underdog!"
Actually, no it doesn't matter if I'm wrong or not. But it's no joke that G.H.W.Bush made large contributions to Yale before and while his son was there. There were many reports on GW's grades slipping and his father bailing him out, using money and his Alumni status to convince Yale to keep him. Bush also has a considerable DUI record in Texas, as well as two failed business endeavors that he somehow managed to bankrupt but not end up in financial trouble himself.
Kerry worked his way through college.
Bush dodged military service by joinging the Texas National Guard and then didn't show up for duty.
Kerry toured Vietnam as I'm sure you know.
But NONE of this matters...not now. Bush is President, Kerry is not. The Democrats were right to ask Kerry not to tour with candidates, he DID misspeak and even as someone who voted for Kerry, whatever he said it didn't sound pro-troops. Regardless of what he meant. But I'd still rather have somone in office who can't decide how he feels about war, but DID go into combat, than someone who NEVER went into combat, relied on family money and support most of his life before becoming governor of my former state of residence, and by all evidence dodged what little duty he DID have as a member of the Texas Air National Guard.
Hey, speaking of psuedo-pilots, anyone remember Bush in front of a big sign on the USS Abraham...gosh...what did it say...? Oh that's right "MISSION ACCOMPLISHED" If the mission was public deception, misuse of American military forces, political backstabbing (John McCain ran for president, a REAL veteran, remember someone smearing his campaign?) and dividing the American public between red and blue, evangelical and not, gay or not, or RICH or not, then...you bet.
Alright, so with all of that said... Bush had the better grades. What's with all the secondary stuff?
"Sarcasm: intellect on the offensive"
"What I lack in decorum, I make up for with an absence of tact."
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Quit turning yourself into a stereotype by constantly switching focus and avoiding the questions. Are you a politician by chance?
OK - here's what Kerry said: "you study hard, you do your homework and you make an effort to be smart, you can do well. And if you don't, you get stuck in Iraq,"
Do you see where I pulled stupid and lazy from that?
And to answer your question, I have a very pessimistic view about college and do not equate success or brains or any other positive attitude with those who attend. Likewise, I do not view those who do not attend in a negative manner.
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
Actually, it's probably not phrased the best, but close to what I mean. I'm anti-war and anti-violence almost to the extreme. Therefore, I do not support killing people or violence...and that is what the military does. I don't exactly view it as a positive that people volunteer to do those things. I do not hate the troops in any way, though, as you implied.
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
In this case, it appears to be Kerry's definition of them.
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
doesn't feel that way right now. That's the hopeful
idea . . . Hope didn't get much applause . . .
Hope! Hope is the underdog!"
-- EV, Live at the Showbox
Maybe, maybe not. Even though I do not like what militaries do, I've been defending the choice of the people who enlist and recognizing that people join for reasons other than their stupid and lazy as he seemed to assert.
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
and just look at what he said in the 5 sentances before and after the one in question...he was talking about bush, had a slip of the tounge, and misspoke. he was not talking about the troops. should he maybe appologize for saying something by mistake that 2 people (rush and hannity) can take out of context, spin, and turn it into "kerry hates the troops" that the "liberal media" is pouncing all over for the past couple of days? maybe. but i was actually pleased with his speach yesterday...it showed he actually has some political balls, which i never saw in 2004...
So how do you feel about Trent Lott?
I'm not going to jump through hoops for your entertainment. If it was a difficult thing to find I'd do it for you, but it's not. Use Google.
seeing as he's quite far to my right, i'm glad he's gone...i'm assuming you are referencing his segregationist past and his comments on strom thurman, who, of course, ran as a segregationist... as for his comments at the 100th birthday or whatever, i'd need a link to the speech to know exactly what he was talking about. he's not one of my favorites, i know that, and i know that i would never even show up for a celebration of someone who holds views such as those as he did for thurman...among various other things throughout the years...
He misspoke much like Kerry. If you take his words literally, you should be taking Kerry's words literally.
i didn't say i took his words literally...i said, as you can see above, that i would need the speech to know the context.
lott has given plenty of other reasons for me to think he's a piece of shit. he was against the voting rights act, the institution of a martin luther king holiday, and has been affiliated with the segregationist ticket for years...way before the thurman bday quote. overall, he is just not even close to where i am politically.
oh, and i think kerry sucks too, btw. he ran an inept campaign in 2004, and is a farily weak politician. while i do agree with him on more issues that lott, kerry is way weak.
That's understandable.
Strom Thurmond did not hold those views anymore...people change...even for the better.
Postive thinking is the key, Postive doing is the door...
And what is a man who graduated with a lower average than that ridiculing him for?
"What I lack in decorum, I make up for with an absence of tact."
Camden 5-28-06
Washington, D.C. 6-22-08
"I don't know where he is [Osama Bin Laden] and quite frankly it doesn't concern me." George W. Bush, White House Press Conference
"The insurgency is in it's last throws" Dick Cheney, Fall 05 interview
"Sadaam Hussein has gone to great lengths to keep and build weapons of mass destruction." G.W. Bush
I totally agree with holding people accountable.
Postive thinking is the key, Postive doing is the door...
Actually, Bush's marks were lower than Kerry's-not that it matters, though.
Postive thinking is the key, Postive doing is the door...
He never said that the military en masse was guilty of these things.
But the intention of his words were the same as the intention of the prepared text. I understand that Kerry's words sounded like an insult to the troops, but once he clarified what he meant, shouldn't that be enough??
Actually they weren't. Bush had a 77 average and Kerry had a 76 average through 4 years at Yale. Both C's. Yes, it doesn't matter.
What does matter is you're still wrong.
"What I lack in decorum, I make up for with an absence of tact."
Camden 5-28-06
Washington, D.C. 6-22-08
No one is trying to excuse it. There is nothing to be excused. The statement simply needed to be explained. If he really meant it as an insult to the troops, I wouldn't excuse it.
I feel like I'm living in the Twilight Zone everytime I read a comment like this.
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Actually, no it doesn't matter if I'm wrong or not. But it's no joke that G.H.W.Bush made large contributions to Yale before and while his son was there. There were many reports on GW's grades slipping and his father bailing him out, using money and his Alumni status to convince Yale to keep him. Bush also has a considerable DUI record in Texas, as well as two failed business endeavors that he somehow managed to bankrupt but not end up in financial trouble himself.
Kerry worked his way through college.
Bush dodged military service by joinging the Texas National Guard and then didn't show up for duty.
Kerry toured Vietnam as I'm sure you know.
But NONE of this matters...not now. Bush is President, Kerry is not. The Democrats were right to ask Kerry not to tour with candidates, he DID misspeak and even as someone who voted for Kerry, whatever he said it didn't sound pro-troops. Regardless of what he meant. But I'd still rather have somone in office who can't decide how he feels about war, but DID go into combat, than someone who NEVER went into combat, relied on family money and support most of his life before becoming governor of my former state of residence, and by all evidence dodged what little duty he DID have as a member of the Texas Air National Guard.
Hey, speaking of psuedo-pilots, anyone remember Bush in front of a big sign on the USS Abraham...gosh...what did it say...? Oh that's right "MISSION ACCOMPLISHED" If the mission was public deception, misuse of American military forces, political backstabbing (John McCain ran for president, a REAL veteran, remember someone smearing his campaign?) and dividing the American public between red and blue, evangelical and not, gay or not, or RICH or not, then...you bet.
Postive thinking is the key, Postive doing is the door...
doesn't feel that way right now. That's the hopeful
idea . . . Hope didn't get much applause . . .
Hope! Hope is the underdog!"
-- EV, Live at the Showbox
lmao!
What exactly do you mean by that?
Alright, so with all of that said... Bush had the better grades. What's with all the secondary stuff?
"What I lack in decorum, I make up for with an absence of tact."
Camden 5-28-06
Washington, D.C. 6-22-08