So they now say Pluto is not a planet!

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  • know1
    know1 Posts: 6,801
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    Science is an ever evolving study of life based on neverending research and study. Science doesn't come to one conclusion and then decide to just stick with that mindset no matter what new evidence comes to light. No one came claim absolute knowledge of anything, all we can do is base our decisions on the current amount of evidence that's out there in the present time based on new research and study.

    Very true. That's why it should be taught in the schools as philosophy.
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

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  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    know1 wrote:
    Very true. That's why it should be taught in the schools as philosophy.


    Philosophy is based on one's opinion and perspective. Science is based on current evidence and knowledge.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • farfromglorified
    farfromglorified Posts: 5,700
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    No one came claim absolute knowledge of anything

    That seems odd because you just did.
  • farfromglorified
    farfromglorified Posts: 5,700
    know1 wrote:
    Very true. That's why it should be taught in the schools as philosophy.

    Science should not be taught in schools as philosophy. Philosophy is a system of systems of thought: a set of standards by which one approaches knowledge and truth.
  • know1
    know1 Posts: 6,801
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    Philosophy is based on one's opinion and perspective. Science is based on current evidence and knowledge.

    You mean it's based upon the current opinion and perspective of scientists that is subject to change at any time as you said above. Sounds like philosophy to me....
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • sourdough
    sourdough Posts: 579
    Much different kind of "opinion". Science is based on tested hypothesis and scrutinized through a stringent scientific method. Philosophy is untested and theoretical, but not practically applied.
  • Uncle Leo
    Uncle Leo Posts: 1,059
    I don't believe that "Pluto" or these other "Planets" are even acknowledged in teh Bible, so they should not be taught in school as science, philosophy or anything else.
    I cannot come up with a new sig till I get this egg off my face.
  • RainDog
    RainDog Posts: 1,824
    know1 wrote:
    Very true. That's why it should be taught in the schools as philosophy.
    So, next time someone needs serious surgery, or the government wants to contruct a new rocket, they should call up graduates of Harvard's philosophy program?
  • farfromglorified
    farfromglorified Posts: 5,700
    RainDog wrote:
    So, next time someone needs serious surgery, or the government wants to contruct a new rocket, they should call up graduates of Harvard's philosophy program?

    This is the most important post I've ever seen on this board. Quite seriously. It speaks volumes.
  • tybird
    tybird Posts: 17,388
    Uncle Leo wrote:
    I don't believe that "Pluto" or these other "Planets" are even acknowledged in teh Bible, so they should not be taught in school as science, philosophy or anything else.
    "The heavens and the earth"-notice the plural on "heavens"...it's not referring to Heaven (singular)...........This blanket statement covers stuff in space.
    All the world will be your enemy, Prince with a thousand enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with the swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed.
  • Uncle Leo
    Uncle Leo Posts: 1,059
    tybird wrote:
    "The heavens and the earth"-notice the plural on "heavens"...it's not referring to Heaven (singular)...........This blanket statement covers stuff in space.

    That hoad nothing to do with the heavans and the earth. I just figured that the assaults on science were based on evolution arguments we have had. Somehow it reminded me of when baseballer Carl Everett said that he does not believe that dinosaurs existed because they are not mentioned in the Bible.
    I cannot come up with a new sig till I get this egg off my face.
  • tybird
    tybird Posts: 17,388
    Uncle Leo wrote:
    That hoad nothing to do with the heavans and the earth. I just figured that the assaults on science were based on evolution arguments we have had. Somehow it reminded me of when baseballer Carl Everett said that he does not believe that dinosaurs existed because they are not mentioned in the Bible.
    Carl Everett..............he was a real piece of work....no dinosaurs....yeah, that was funny.
    All the world will be your enemy, Prince with a thousand enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with the swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed.
  • Uncle Leo
    Uncle Leo Posts: 1,059
    RainDog wrote:
    So, next time someone needs serious surgery, or the government wants to contruct a new rocket, they should call up graduates of Harvard's philosophy program?

    For a new rocket, of course. Everyone knows the prowess of Harvard's Outer Space Philosophy program. But for surgery? Get real, man. The best Body Imperfection Correction Philosophy programs are at Yale, Stanford and, for some reason, Middle Tennessee State.
    I cannot come up with a new sig till I get this egg off my face.
  • know1
    know1 Posts: 6,801
    Uncle Leo wrote:
    That hoad nothing to do with the heavans and the earth. I just figured that the assaults on science were based on evolution arguments we have had. Somehow it reminded me of when baseballer Carl Everett said that he does not believe that dinosaurs existed because they are not mentioned in the Bible.

    My attacks on the ridiculous (in my opinion) faith in science have nothing to do with the bible. They have everything to do with the fact that science has never proven anything. They have only explained things based upon past observations. Tomorrow, a new observation could surface which would change the explanation.

    I don't see why that is so hard for people to see.
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    farfromglorified wrote:
    That seems odd because you just did.

    IMO, no human has absolute knowledge.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    know1 wrote:
    My attacks on the ridiculous (in my opinion) faith in science have nothing to do with the bible. They have everything to do with the fact that science has never proven anything. They have only explained things based upon past observations. Tomorrow, a new observation could surface which would change the explanation.

    I don't see why that is so hard for people to see.

    Because advancements in science improve human life, often times. I think it is wise to base decisions on experience and past observations. They are clues to help us figure things out. And yes, theories are sometimes going to be proven false in light of new evidence. That's why science is so great, you keep learning more and more...it's never final. It's always open for further discussion, investigation and improvements. What should one have faith in other than past experiences and observations?
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • comfortably numb
    comfortably numb Posts: 188
    i hate to be nitpicky, but the planets are named after roman gods, not greek gods.

    yep..
    saw things so much clearer
  • RainDog
    RainDog Posts: 1,824
    comfortably numb wrote:
    i hate to be nitpicky, but the planets are named after roman gods, not greek gods.

    yep..
    You know, I don't think you hated that at all.
  • farfromglorified
    farfromglorified Posts: 5,700
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    IMO, no human has absolute knowledge.

    Except for you of course, based on the very absolute claim you made.
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    Philosophy is based on one's opinion and perspective. Science is based on current evidence and knowledge.

    Philosophy is based upon rational analysis of a problem, or question. Not too disimilar to science, but also not strictly limited to the same restraints as scientific enquiry.

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