So they now say Pluto is not a planet!
Purple Hawk
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I don't know why, but I'm really amused by this. I grow up, study the solar system....then one day they say..."wait...actually, Pluto isn't a planet."
How does that go? And now I guess they found some other possible planets?
How do you go from deciding that some big mass of rock is a planet, and believing in this for years, then one day saying...you know, it really isn't???? I think once you decide to declare something as a planet, you have to be REALLY sure.
How does that go? And now I guess they found some other possible planets?
How do you go from deciding that some big mass of rock is a planet, and believing in this for years, then one day saying...you know, it really isn't???? I think once you decide to declare something as a planet, you have to be REALLY sure.
And you ask me what I want this year
And I try to make this kind and clear
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
And desire and love and empty things
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
And I try to make this kind and clear
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
And desire and love and empty things
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
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As the world turns...
So we begin with Mercury (a potentially toxic metal) and end with Ur-anus....
Any wonder that life is in the shape that it's in?
...signed...the token black Pearl Jam fan.
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Why call it something it is not just because we were wrong about something in the past. Now we greater technology to determine this things.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
I guess that's right, I'm just not sure what the definition of a planet is. To me, it's like the day I found out that a tomato is a fruit and not a vegetable. Very perplexing. I hate the 'hard' sciences.
And I try to make this kind and clear
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
And desire and love and empty things
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
They might add back pluto and a few others to make 13 planets! Thats got my vote.
Eight is a good number for many reasons.....
but here is that other proposal I guess failed:
Nine Planets Become 12 with Controversial New Definition
http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/060816_planet_definition.html
Nine Planets Become 12 with Controversial New Definition
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Overall I am really happy with eight, it took a while to digest fully
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
www.amnesty.org.uk
wait, there was a Greek god named Uranus? betcha the reason that we never heard anything about him was because he was such an asshole.
angels share laughter
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Peace
Dan
"Every judgment teeters on the brink of error. To claim absolute knowledge is to become monstrous. Knowledge is an unending adventure at the edge of uncertainty." - Frank Herbert, Dune, 1965
Yeah, if Uranus was the last one it would probally join all the damn snake jokes for a few weeks.
Long live Neptune!
www.myspace.com/jensvad
(astronomy) any of the nine large celestial bodies in the solar system that revolve around the sun and shine by reflected light; Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune, and Pluto in order of their proximity to the sun; viewed from the constellation Hercules, all the planets rotate around the sun in a counterclockwise direction
satellite: a person who follows or serves another
any celestial body (other than comets or satellites) that revolves around a star
wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn
A planet (from the Greek πλανήτης, planētēs which means "wanderer" or more forcefully "vagrant, tramp") is an object in orbit around a star that is not a star in its own right. Much like "continent," "planet" is a word without a precise definition, with history and culture playing as much of a role as geology and astrophysics (see Definition of planet). ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planet
Overview of the Planets in the Solar System.}
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planet_(Table)
Planet is a literary magazine based in Wales.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planet_(magazine)
An object orbiting a star that is not a brown dwarf but bigger than an asteroid. This is somewhat ambiguous. In our solar system it is really an historical definition which boils down to "a planet is a member of the set {Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune, Pluto}". All the known planets orbiting other stars are large gas planets so no ambiguity yet arises there. ...
http://www.astro.uio.no/ita/TNP/nineplanets/help.html
is the term used for a body in orbit around the Sun. The word comes from the Greek planetes, and means "wanderers." Our solar system has nine planets: Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune, and Pluto. An easy way to remember their names in the correct order is to keep in mind the following sentence: My Very Educated Mother Just Served Us Nine Pickles. The first letter of each word is the first letter of each planet. ...
http://www.teachervision.fen.com/page/1513.html
A major object which orbits around a star. In our solar system, there arenine such objects which aretraditionally called "planets'': Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune, and Pluto. (There are no "official'' specifications for how big an object must be to be called a planet rather than, for example, an "asteroid.'') While no individual planet has ever been seen orbiting around another star, we wouldn't expect to see them, given the limits of current technology. ...
http://www.astrosociety.org/education/publications/tnl/14/14.html
A spherical ball of rock and/or gas that orbits a star. The Earth is a planet. Our solar system has nine planets. These planets are, in order of increasing present distance from the Sun: Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Pluto, and Neptune.
affy50.tripod.com/Glossary.html
describes any heavenly body which when viewed from Earth appears to move, as distinguished from fixed stars.
http://www.findyourfate.com/faq/p-glossary.htm
One of nine major bodies that orbit the Sun, visible to us by reflected sunlight.
astronomy.nju.edu.cn/astron/AT3/GLOSS_P.HTM
low-mass body that orbits a star.
school.discovery.com/curriculumcenter/solarsystem/glossary.html
there is no set scientific definition for planet (from the Greek planetes “wanderers”), but as a rule of thumb, a planet: 1) must directly orbit a star or an object that has nuclear fusion; 2) must be small enough that it has not undergone internal nuclear fusion (ie, it is not a star or starlike object); and 3) must be large enough that its self-gravity gives it the general shape of a sphere.
http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0004425.html
Referred in Astrology as any one of the 10 heavenly bodies situated along the ecliptic. The Sun is a star, and the Moon is the Earth's satellite but they too are referred to as planets, for sake of ease of use. The ten planets are in their natural order from the Sun: Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune and Pluto. Image at right: The planet Saturn. Named for the Greek god Cronus and ruler of the astrological sign Capricorn.
http://www.elore.com/Astrology/Glossary/astrology.htm
a heavenly body other than a comet, asteroid, or satellite that travels in orbit around the Sun; also such a body orbiting another star
whyfiles.larc.nasa.gov/text/kids/Problem_Board/problems/galactic/glossary.html
Any of nine solid, nonluminous bodies revolving about the Sun.
http://www.ontariosciencecentre.ca/school/clc/visits/glossary.asp
An object orbiting the Sun and visible by reflected sunlight. There is no official lower limit to the size of a planet, but the name has not been applied to small objects such as comets or asteroids. The name comes from the Greek word for "wanderer" and was applied to the visible planets that were observed to move relative to the fixed stars. In contrast to comets and asteroids, planets tend to be in quite regular orbits that are usually close to a single plane.
http://www.lpi.usra.edu/publications/slidesets/ss_tour/glossary.shtml
A major body (not a comet or asteroid) orbiting around a star.
http://www.mdk12.org/instruction/curriculum/science/glossary.shtml
Originally, an object in the sky which moved against that background of stars. Now it is used for any object that circles a star, and shines by reflected light.
http://www.wro.org/ras/glossary/n-r.htm
Just like the Earth! A planet is a sphere of either rock or gas that orbits the Sun. There are nine planets in our Solar System, and the Earth is the third planet out from the Sun. There is a diagram in the book that gives a good overview. There are also a number (actually tens of thousands) of 'minor planets' that move around the Sun, mostly between the orbits of Mars and Jupiter. The Moon and all the planets we see in the sky do not glow in their own right. ...
http://www.quasarastronomy.com.au/article08.htm
A natural satellite of the sun or another stellar system.
http://www.astronomy.org/astronomy-survival/solterm.html
An object bigger than an asteroid orbiting a star. Our solar system has nine
http://www.kidzworld.com/site/p1267.htm
A relatively small, speherical body that orbits a star – for instance, the Earth. (See solar system.)
outreach.atnf.csiro.au/education/senior/astrophysics/astrophysics_glossary.html
An astronomical body too small to make its own energy. Planets are seen by light reflected from the Sun. The largest planet, Jupiter, is only one one-thousandth as big as the Sun; but it is huge compared to the Earth (a thousand Earths could fit into it).
http://www.astro.psu.edu/users/stark/ASTRO11/terms.html
A body that shines by reflecting sunlight. Planets can be made out of rock and metal, like Earth, or out of gas, like Jupiter.
inkido.indiana.edu/a100/glossary1.html
a system of billions of stars and other matter held relatively close to each other by gravity and separated from other such systems by vast distances.
http://www.teach-nology.com/worksheets/science/space/quiz/
Literally, a "wandering star". To the unaided eye planets look just like stars. To ancient peoples the only obvious difference between a star and a planet was that planets moved through the constellations, while stars remained fixed on the celestial sphere.
www3.cerritos.edu/ladkins/a106/glossary_celestialsphere.htm
Planets are objects that orbit around solar-type stars and have true masses less than the limiting mass for thermonuclear fusion of deuterium (currently calculated to be 13 Jupiter masses for objects of solar metallicity). See the definition from the Working Group on Extra-Solar Planets
bell.mma.edu/~mdickins/Cosmos/GlossaryCosmos.html
a large body in space that orbits a star and does not produce light of its own
http://www.mrs-twedt.com/fcat_science_glossary_part_1.htm
I detect a thinly veiled attempt to take a jab at the 95% of the educated world who realize global warming is indeed influenced by human activity. :rolleyes:
From the world of the strange. A little off topic. But the other day I had the nephew over and was watching some kiddy show and to my amazement there is a thing called a Liger. Half tiger and half lion and it was huge. Now if my nephew would have drew it or told me about it, I would have thought that he got into my stash. What this has to do with the fact we lost a planet from the solar system I don't know. But I do have to wonder if the planets on the OTHER SIDE of Pluto kept them happy by keeping the term planet for them?
i hope they find another solar system that will be more tolerant of them.
It's science. They never actually prove anything and here is a perfect example.
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
Science is an ever evolving study of life based on neverending research and study. Science doesn't come to one conclusion and then decide to just stick with that mindset no matter what new evidence comes to light. No one came claim absolute knowledge of anything, all we can do is base our decisions on the current amount of evidence that's out there in the present time based on new research and study.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
bravo, great post abook.
Very true. That's why it should be taught in the schools as philosophy.
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
Philosophy is based on one's opinion and perspective. Science is based on current evidence and knowledge.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
That seems odd because you just did.
Science should not be taught in schools as philosophy. Philosophy is a system of systems of thought: a set of standards by which one approaches knowledge and truth.
You mean it's based upon the current opinion and perspective of scientists that is subject to change at any time as you said above. Sounds like philosophy to me....
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
This is the most important post I've ever seen on this board. Quite seriously. It speaks volumes.