ongoing list of reasons to still support bush

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  • The Illinoisemakers
    The Illinoisemakers Posts: 461
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Bush has admitted that he believes in the literal interpretation of the book of revelations and that he also believes in the holy rapture.

    Not all that suprising, he is a Christian. Most of us do believe in revelations. His belief in Revelations and the claim that he is destroying the world through it seem more then a little off. Does that mean that every Christian is destroying the world because they believe in Revelations?
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    The Illinoisemakers wrote:
    Not all that suprising, he is a Christian. Most of us do believe in revelations. His belief in Revelations and the claim that he is destroying the world through it seem more then a little off. Does that mean that every Christian is destroying the world because they believe in Revelations?

    No. Because there are Christians and there are nutty fundamentalists like Bush who has the brain of a child, and who believes that the world can be expalined with terms such as good vs evil, the axis of evil, us vs the enemy e.t.c, e.t.c. Simply put, Bush is a giddy, weak-minded fruitcake. Why are you defending him?
  • rarghrargh-brownstar
    rarghrargh-brownstar Posts: 1,272
    hes a simple yes/ no type of leader. this gives me security.


    at ALL costs.
    Rarghstarfarian.
  • The Illinoisemakers
    The Illinoisemakers Posts: 461
    Byrnzie wrote:
    No. Because there are Christians and there are nutty fundamentalists like Bush who has the brain of a child, and who believes that the world can be expalined with terms such as good vs evil, the axis of evil, us vs the enemy e.t.c, e.t.c. Simply put, Bush is a giddy, weak-minded fruitcake. Why are you defending him?[/quote

    What makes Bush a "nutty fundamentalist", just because he is in the public spotlight 24/7, and he isn't afraid to say he is a Christian, and that he views prayer as a powerful tool. It sounds to me that you are just taking jabs at Christians. Many Christians do believe there is a battle between good and evil, doesn't make us fruitcakes or nutty fundamentalists. I happen to think Bush isn't a "weak minded, giddy, fruitcake". Do I have issues with him in some areas, absolutely. Is he still my President, yes.
  • dkst0426
    dkst0426 Posts: 523
    Get it straight, please. It's the Book of Revelation. Singular. No plural. "Revelations" was the short-lived tv series that aired a year or so ago. C'mon, if you're going to bash Christianity (or a President who is very public about his faith), then at least bash right.
  • rarghrargh-brownstar
    rarghrargh-brownstar Posts: 1,272
    The Illinoisemakers wrote:
    Byrnzie wrote:
    No. Because there are Christians and there are nutty fundamentalists like Bush who has the brain of a child, and who believes that the world can be expalined with terms such as good vs evil, the axis of evil, us vs the enemy e.t.c, e.t.c. Simply put, Bush is a giddy, weak-minded fruitcake. Why are you defending him?[/quote

    What makes Bush a "nutty fundamentalist", just because he is in the public spotlight 24/7, and he isn't afraid to say he is a Christian, and that he views prayer as a powerful tool. It sounds to me that you are just taking jabs at Christians. Many Christians do believe there is a battle between good and evil, doesn't make us fruitcakes or nutty fundamentalists. I happen to think Bush isn't a "weak minded, giddy, fruitcake". Do I have issues with him in some areas, absolutely. Is he still my President, yes.
    theres a big difference between saying that youre a Christian and truly acting like one.
    Rarghstarfarian.
  • The Illinoisemakers
    The Illinoisemakers Posts: 461
    rarghrargh-brownstar wrote:
    The Illinoisemakers wrote:
    theres a big difference between saying that youre a Christian and truly acting like one.

    That is a great point. My guess is you're, correct me if I'm wrong, refering to Bush being a Christian, yet leading a war that is been very destructive, in almost every sense. I struggle with that notion myself. As a Christian who supports the war, is that really what a Christian would do? It's tough. I really do wonder what would Jesus do, when it comes to this war.
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,827
    well i thought jesus was telling george what to do no ?
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • hippiemom
    hippiemom Posts: 3,326
    The Illinoisemakers wrote:
    That is a great point. My guess is you're, correct me if I'm wrong, refering to Bush being a Christian, yet leading a war that is been very destructive, in almost every sense. I struggle with that notion myself. As a Christian who supports the war, is that really what a Christian would do? It's tough. I really do wonder what would Jesus do, when it comes to this war.
    Can you find one single thing that Jesus ever said that would lead you to believe that he would support a war?

    Can you find anything he ever said that would lead you toward the conclusion that he would never support a war?

    I think you'll find your answer.
    "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." ~ MLK, 1963
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    The Illinoisemakers wrote:
    That is a great point. My guess is you're, correct me if I'm wrong, refering to Bush being a Christian, yet leading a war that is been very destructive, in almost every sense. I struggle with that notion myself. As a Christian who supports the war, is that really what a Christian would do? It's tough. I really do wonder what would Jesus do, when it comes to this war.

    Jesus would have died to save the Iraqi people. Something George Dubya would never do. ;)
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • rarghrargh-brownstar
    rarghrargh-brownstar Posts: 1,272
    Ahnimus wrote:
    The Illinoisemakers wrote:

    Jesus would have died to save the Iraqi people. Something George Dubya would never do. ;)
    whoa! easy!!...............We just one him to start by addressing a few humane topics here and there.


    edit: Jesus already DID that. ;)
    Rarghstarfarian.
  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    The Illinoisemakers wrote:
    rarghrargh-brownstar wrote:

    That is a great point. My guess is you're, correct me if I'm wrong, refering to Bush being a Christian, yet leading a war that is been very destructive, in almost every sense. I struggle with that notion myself. As a Christian who supports the war, is that really what a Christian would do? It's tough. I really do wonder what would Jesus do, when it comes to this war.
    ...
    Here's my guess...
    Turn the other cheek... love thy enemy.
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    Hail, Hail!!!
  • rarghrargh-brownstar
    rarghrargh-brownstar Posts: 1,272
    The Illinoisemakers wrote:
    rarghrargh-brownstar wrote:

    That is a great point. My guess is you're, correct me if I'm wrong, refering to Bush being a Christian, yet leading a war that is been very destructive, in almost every sense. I struggle with that notion myself. As a Christian who supports the war, is that really what a Christian would do? It's tough. I really do wonder what would Jesus do, when it comes to this war.
    No.

    My point is, that its soo easy to SAY that youre a Christian....or a Muslim.
    Its tht level of confidence tht people have in him for JUST stating that, is mind-boggling. I think its lazy.....


    The latter of what you said is an important thing to address.
    Jesus is the peaceful one....its the disciples that have to fight for the bigger cause? ( I am not saying that to be snarky...truly questioning).

    Maybe hes saving us against a bigger destruction. Thats fine (logic)......but how can you let the loose ends, untied hypocrisy in the current administration slide by?


    I have friends who are very dear to me, that are Christian. It would be nice to see Bush act like them once in a while. I dont know if its because he is a "leader" and cant show any weakness.....but surely he has time show a "bit" kindness or true Christ-like following through his actions. This would not be limted to only talking about the war-on-Iraq.....

    I dunno. Maybe that is the attraction. People are attracted to him because he isnt "lovey-dovey." Maybe this portrays more loyalty to his following.

    At any rate, i dont think sincerely "questioning" things is a disgrace to your belief, family, or nation.
    Rarghstarfarian.
  • negationist
    negationist Posts: 237
    Ahnimus wrote:
    The Illinoisemakers wrote:

    Jesus would have died to save the Iraqi people. Something George Dubya would never do. ;)

    That is so true. I really believe he would. And I'm not even a Christian.
    If Pearl Jam was a beer, they'd probably be the best beer in the world!!
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    rarghrargh-brownstar wrote:
    The Illinoisemakers wrote:
    theres a big difference between saying that youre a Christian and truly acting like one.

    Exactly.
  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    Ahnimus wrote:
    The Illinoisemakers wrote:

    Jesus would have died to save the Iraqi people. Something George Dubya would never do. ;)
    ...
    I'm also guessing...
    If Jesus came back today... He would be:
    Placed on the Airlines No-Fly List... OR
    Be sitting in a cell in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.
    Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
    Hail, Hail!!!
  • robbie
    robbie Posts: 883
    Cosmo wrote:
    Ahnimus wrote:
    ...
    I'm also guessing...
    If Jesus came back today... He would be:
    Placed on the Airlines No-Fly List... OR
    Be sitting in a cell in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.


    no doubt about it. if jesus were here today he would be treated exactly how he was treated back then. and by the same group of people. trade a crown of thorns for electrodes on his balls, and torture him to death. a middle eastern man taking power away from the church and the government....please!
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    robbie wrote:
    no doubt about it. if jesus were here today he would be treated exactly how he was treated back then. and by the same group of people. trade a crown of thorns for electrodes on his balls, and torture him to death. a middle eastern man taking power away from the church and the government....please!

    Hmm, given the choice, I think I'd actually take electrodes on my balls. Sounds less painful.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Bush has admitted that he believes in the literal interpretation of the book of revelations and that he also believes in the holy rapture.
    out of you....
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  • The Illinoisemakers
    The Illinoisemakers Posts: 461
    robbie wrote:
    Cosmo wrote:


    no doubt about it. if jesus were here today he would be treated exactly how he was treated back then. and by the same group of people. trade a crown of thorns for electrodes on his balls, and torture him to death. a middle eastern man taking power away from the church and the government....please!

    Who would want him dead more, the clerics and mullahs or western governments?

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