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  • shiraz
    shiraz Posts: 528
    Eva7 wrote:
    http://fromisrael2lebanon.info/images/childAbuseAndHate2.jpg

    http://fromisrael2lebanon.info/images/childAbuseAndHate.jpg[/quote

    To the Lebanese kids, ha? I don't like this picture either, but I'm not gonna be demagogic about it. Do you understand hebrew? Well, I do. These kids are from Kiryat Shmona, maybe one of the most bombed towns in northern Israel since the 80's. Do you know what they wrote?

    "Nasralla, I've waited for this all of my life..." "Hizbullah, I hope you'll get what..." and then signed their names.

    This, This is what Im talking about. Assuming things just becasue someone said something that matched your point of view and there we have it - the whole world is now thinking these Israeli *kids* and maybe all Israeli kids are evil.

    How LOW can you guys go?




    And what with this "it was all planed" thing, do you honestly think that we'll allow the kidnapping and killing of our soliders?!? Lady, we are still hoping for info about Ron Arad who was kidnapped about 20 years ago, there is a "reminder" day for him which we are marking via hunging blue balloons or sending them to the sky, our govt still offeres prices for anyone who has new info about him. Does it really sound like we're gonna initiate that kind of kidnapping?

    Believe me, if all of it was planed then you wouldn't see 400 dead Lebanses civilians, but 400 dead terrorists, nor our ground troops getting in so late.

    Do you know where this whole story came from? Well, its easy. After we moved out Hisbullah was ordered to get rid of its arsenal. our (and not just our, I guess) intelligence clearly wanted to make sure this would actually happen, let alone after the 2003 kidnaps (3 soliders and a civilian named Tenenboim). So we watched Hizbullah (you can even do it with a naked eye, btw), and we've seen how instead of disarming, it started getting more and more weapons and money from Iran, and also building bunkers. Now I'm sure the UN, Lebanon and all the G8 knew about waht's going on with Hizbullah (even a simple civilian in Metulla can see the stuff that are going on across the Lebanese border), and I'm sure that everyone consulted everyone about this delicate situation. But to say Israel had PLANED this whole damned thing = Israel had planed to kill 400 Lebanese civilians, destroy Lebanon, choke its northern part, let her civilians and soliders die & kidnapped and being threatened by a war with Iran.

    Has everyone losted their minds? do you honestly think we could have done such a thing, as if we don't have enough troubles? Where is our benefit? Cause if we planed it all then we should get something good out of it, right? Ever since day one the IDF kept telling there's no chance Hizbullah will disappear, only it'll be 50% weaker. Now why should we plan an operation with such a lame goal?

    If you want to believe this conspiracy thing go ahead and do so, but leave Israel out of it or at least TRY to dig in some more and use common logic.
  • El_Kabong
    El_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    shiraz wrote:
    Eva7 wrote:
    http://fromisrael2lebanon.info/images/childAbuseAndHate2.jpg

    http://fromisrael2lebanon.info/images/childAbuseAndHate.jpg[/quote

    To the Lebanese kids, ha? I don't like this picture either, but I'm not gonna be demagogic about it. Do you understand hebrew? Well, I do. These kids are from Kiryat Shmona, maybe one of the most bombed towns in northern Israel since the 80's. Do you know what they wrote?

    "Nasralla, I've waited for this all of my life..." "Hizbullah, I hope you'll get what..." and then signed their names.

    This, This is what Im talking about. Assuming things just becasue someone said something that matched your point of view and there we have it - the whole world is now thinking these Israeli *kids* and maybe all Israeli kids are evil.

    How LOW can you guys go?

    http://www.captiveminds.org/misc/letter.htm

    "DEAR SOLDIER, PLEASE KILL A LOT OF ARABS"

    Source: Yedioth Ahronoth, May 7, 2002

    Israeli reservists serving in the Tulkarm area during Operation Defensive Shield were stunned when they opened gifts sent by school children from central Israel. Many of the students wrote them letters in which they encouraged them to disregard the rules and regulations and to kill as many Arabs as possible. Dozens of the letters were sent, mostly from children in the 7th through 10th grades who attend national religious schools.

    One reservist said he was eager to open the letter, but he was stunned when he started to read it. "I pray for you that you return home safely, and kill at least ten for me," wrote the pupil. "Screw the rules and spray them. By the way-a good Arab is a dead Arab." Other letters were even more heated. "Let the Palestinians, may God blacken their name, burn in Hell. Punch holes in them with your M-16 and bomb them," wrote one of the teens. Another wrote, "I have a special request for you-kill as many Arabs as you can." In another letter, a pupil wished the soldier success in his mission and added, "Say, isn't it fun to shoot an Arab? Here's a slogan: a good Arab is a dead Arab. A top notch Arab is a buried Arab."

    Most of the letters contained similar statements. Some of the teenagers, who are supposed to be drafted in another two years, said they regretted not being able to take part in the "action" now. The reservist who opened the first letter mentioned above gathered all the letters and sent them to the Jewish Action Center. "I read the letters and couldn't believe my eyes," he said. "We keep talking about the hateful incitement of the Palestinian educational system towards Israel, and suddenly it happens here with us, beneath everyone's nose. This issue simply frightens me and has to set off alarms in our educational system."

    The director of the public department at the Jewish Action Center sent a letter to the Education Minister demanding she investigate the situation and curb "trends towards radicalization." The ministry said it will investigate.
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
  • shiraz
    shiraz Posts: 528
    El_Kabong wrote:
    shiraz wrote:

    http://www.captiveminds.org/misc/letter.htm

    "DEAR SOLDIER, PLEASE KILL A LOT OF ARABS"

    Source: Yedioth Ahronoth, May 7, 2002

    Israeli reservists serving in the Tulkarm area during Operation Defensive Shield were stunned when they opened gifts sent by school children from central Israel. Many of the students wrote them letters in which they encouraged them to disregard the rules and regulations and to kill as many Arabs as possible. Dozens of the letters were sent, mostly from children in the 7th through 10th grades who attend national religious schools.

    One reservist said he was eager to open the letter, but he was stunned when he started to read it. "I pray for you that you return home safely, and kill at least ten for me," wrote the pupil. "Screw the rules and spray them. By the way-a good Arab is a dead Arab." Other letters were even more heated. "Let the Palestinians, may God blacken their name, burn in Hell. Punch holes in them with your M-16 and bomb them," wrote one of the teens. Another wrote, "I have a special request for you-kill as many Arabs as you can." In another letter, a pupil wished the soldier success in his mission and added, "Say, isn't it fun to shoot an Arab? Here's a slogan: a good Arab is a dead Arab. A top notch Arab is a buried Arab."

    Most of the letters contained similar statements. Some of the teenagers, who are supposed to be drafted in another two years, said they regretted not being able to take part in the "action" now. The reservist who opened the first letter mentioned above gathered all the letters and sent them to the Jewish Action Center. "I read the letters and couldn't believe my eyes," he said. "We keep talking about the hateful incitement of the Palestinian educational system towards Israel, and suddenly it happens here with us, beneath everyone's nose. This issue simply frightens me and has to set off alarms in our educational system."

    The director of the public department at the Jewish Action Center sent a letter to the Education Minister demanding she investigate the situation and curb "trends towards radicalization." The ministry said it will investigate.

    2002, are you kidding me? is that the best you got? One incident from 2002, which was well published at local media and then was investigated?

    God, this is pathetic. You are catually doing everything you can to see it in a specific fixed way.