Saddam gets death penalty

vmfury

I was thrilled to read about this on CNN. Not only is the world freeing itself of an evil man, but the way he'll make his exit from this planet and his entrance into Hell is fantastic! A hanging? Too great for words. He deserves all he is about to endure. Good riddance.

sponger

I don't think Saddam's ways of suppressing a civil war are any secret. It was pretty simple: instill fear by torturing everybody and everybody's mother and children. The US is not exactly a shining example of human rights observation, but Saddam was way, way worse. His People genuinely feared him. They were afraid to even talk about him with their own family for fear of being arrested and tortured to death by Iraq's secret police.

I don't especially like Saddam, but I think the courts should set him free and just admit that the real crime that was committed by the Iraqi people when they let that guy take control of the country.

lgt

Cosmo wrote:

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The irony here... This is Ayatollah Khomeni's wet dream come true... and it was the 'Great Satan' that handed it over to them.

So true! One of history's great ironies.

lgt

Puck78 wrote:

It's really strange to me that while the EU rightly declared its opposition to the death sentence (not supporting death penalty is a requisite to join the EU), still the UK foreign minister, Margharet Beckett, sent her welcome for the sentence. I think she has to apologise to the EU for this.

Yeah, that struck me as well.

Guess she forgot that the UK is still part of the EU formally, and not the US 52nd (or 51?) state.

not4u

what good will come by doing this?

PaperPlates

keeponrockin wrote:

I don't think our founding fathers wanted us to be sheep.

Are you an american living in canada?

PaperPlates

not4u wrote:

what good will come by doing this?

What do you want to do? Rehabilitate him? What good would locking him up do?

enharmonic

jlew24asu wrote:

he killed anyone who opposed him.

America tries to do the same thing. We even have a fancy new law that strips your rights if you make a big enough noise. You can be hauled off without representation, and forced to stand trial in a secret court. All that has to happen, is you have to make a big enough noise to be labeled an enemy of America.

What exactly does that mean? No one knows.

Puck78

Puck78 wrote:

It's really strange to me that while the EU rightly declared its opposition to the death sentence (not supporting death penalty is a requisite to join the EU), still the UK foreign minister, Margharet Beckett, sent her welcome for the sentence. I think she has to apologise to the EU for this.

curiosely today Blair expressed his complete opposition to death penalty, even for Saddam. I hope he will scold M. Beckett.

Scratchin a Letter

i'd like to know what people think about waiting for the outcome of the other charges. should they wait? or should they hang him now??

Scratchin a Letter

Puck78 wrote:

curiosely today Blair expressed his complete opposition to death penalty, even for Saddam. I hope he will scold M. Beckett.

thanks for bringing that up. i was surprised too.

Puck78

Scratchin a Letter wrote:

i'd like to know what people think about waiting for the outcome of the other charges. should they wait? or should they hang him now??

the sentence of yesterday went into appeal, so it is likely that the other sentences will be declared before that the appeal process for this sentence will reach an end.

soulsinging

PaperPlates wrote:

What do you want to do? Rehabilitate him? What good would locking him up do?

keep him from torturing or killing anyone else?

inmytree

I feel safer....:rolleyes:

jlew24asu

enharmonic wrote:

America tries to do the same thing. We even have a fancy new law that strips your rights if you make a big enough noise. You can be hauled off without representation, and forced to stand trial in a secret court. All that has to happen, is you have to make a big enough noise to be labeled an enemy of America.

What exactly does that mean? No one knows.

you make it sound easy. is the american government rounding up thousands of americans and executing them?

who are the people going to jail? not me or you, even though we have opposed several things about the government.

we are not doing the same thing saddam did to his people. nice try though.

Puck78

jlew24asu wrote:

you make it sound easy. is the american government rounding up thousands of americans and executing them?

who are the people going to jail? not me or you, even though we have opposed several things about the government.

we are not doing the same thing saddam did to his people. nice try though.

i don't know about the US. Or, i know, but since you would tell me "how do you know? you're not even american", I pass that to some american people.
But here in the UK, who's the people that have difficulties in getting out of jail? That stay longer than their sentence without motivation and can't appeal against that? That are deported from jail to countries where then they disappear or are tortured?
Answer: the most vulnerable classes of the society: immigrants, asylum seekers, poor people... That means: people that are not informed in their language about what's happening at the processes. That are not informed that they can make appeal. That "are immigrants so are terrorists". That don't have money for a proper lawyer so have a lawyer that follow 75 cases per time...
Welcome into the West, enjoy its human rights.

jlew24asu

Puck78 wrote:

i don't know about the US. Or, i know, but since you would tell me "how do you know? you're not even american", I pass that to some american people.
But here in the UK, who's the people that have difficulties in getting out of jail? That stay longer than their sentence without motivation and can't appeal against that? That are deported from jail to countries where then they disappear or are tortured?
Answer: the most vulnerable classes of the society: immigrants, asylum seekers, poor people... That means: people that are not informed in their language about what's happening at the processes. That are not informed that they can make appeal. That "are immigrants so are terrorists". That don't have money for a proper lawyer so have a lawyer that follow 75 cases per time...
Welcome into the West, enjoy its human rights.

you rarely make any sense

Heineken Helen

this verdict makes me a bit uncomfortable - I'm not sure why... there's just something wrong about the whole thing.

Puck78

jlew24asu wrote:

you rarely make any sense

you rarely tell why

jlew24asu

Puck78 wrote:

you rarely tell why

becuase you do not write well. I cant understand what you are trying to say half the time.