It's because you hate America so much. It is true that you hate America. You hate it all the way down to the foundation set in 1776. Don't try to deny it.
Nice try but no. It's because I'm against the death penalty.
im sorry that your friend saddam got the death penalty. he was a bad man.
you're really ignorant, unable to see the difference between someone that oppose death penalty and someone that declares himself "friend" of saddam.
A lot of people like you think that people that oppose death penalty want milk and cookies for prisoners. Ignorants.
It's really strange to me that while the EU rightly declared its opposition to the death sentence (not supporting death penalty is a requisite to join the EU), still the UK foreign minister, Margharet Beckett, sent her welcome for the sentence. I think she has to apologise to the EU for this.
you're really ignorant, unable to see the difference between someone that oppose death penalty and someone that declares himself "friend" of saddam.
A lot of people like you think that people that oppose death penalty want milk and cookies for prisoners. Ignorants.
just trying to give him some consouling words. he is sad about it.
im sorry that your friend saddam got the death penalty. he was a bad man.
He wasnt my friend. He was a pile of shit that deserves to die as he inflicted pain and suffering on hundreds of thousands. HERE IS THE POINT....you end your criticism there....BUT (and I am speaking for my new friend Crop here), if your gage on Saddam is that he caused the death of innocent civilians and was a power hungry man>>> if that is your standard, why dont you apply it to everyone in the world and not just selectively? Why are you not calling for the invasion of China?
Lets have a good talk here. If you found that America killed innocent people for its own self interest, is it any different to you, or do you feel like it is in your name and for your preservation and that is okay? That is what it breaks down to......tribes and circles. Other countries cannot kill innocents or have weapons to protect themselves, but we can have unlimited access and perform messy but unscrutinized self-interest operations because it is us.
The most ridiculous thing I have ever tried to understand is this: Bush called Iraq, Iran and South Korea the axis of evil, then went on to invade Iraq. Put yourself in the remaining two countries positions....would you sit back, after the US declared you an enemy to liberty, invaded one of the countries in your defined position, and do nothing? What makes you think that other countries dont fear having damage done to them, or what makes you think that people outside the US dont have the same inherent desire to protect themselves and their families at any and every capacity they can. We have a numb approach the rest of the world.....almost as if we cannot understand that Iraqis; no matter how many family members they lose; may be devestated by their loss and overwhelmed by it to a point that they never can give us a fair shot. We are totally responsible for everything we have done over there....we elected to do it all. So....the plan to keep moving forward is not okay with me at any level. I dont want to pull out or cut and run...dont ever put those words in my mouth because I have a quick reflex....I want to fix what we have fucked up, but I dont think the people that have boggled all of this even deserve a chance to fix it...let alone decide how to win. We are obligated to clean up the mess that the administration has created...and I have no idea how to do it without continuing to impose our will on other humans.
Fuck Saddam...but Fuck everyone that puts the interest of themselves and their tribes above anything else.
When you you see that we stand for morals based on the prevention of human suffering. We are flexible and dynamic and you have a book written by man over the course of thousands of years and you cherry pick your morals out of it. (not you directly, I think).....The problem is that your morals are dictated by fear and not founded on the desire to end/fix/prevent human suffering at any level.
The "moral majority" is the most fearful, corrupt, least self-reflective and hollow movement I can think of.
At the end of all of this.....I dont want to isolate anyone and I want to bring us together at some level....we dont agree and I AM OKAY with that....I still see room for us to get along and live as supportive neighbors. I truly believe in balance and that even I would walk myself off a cliff if I didnt have someone there to tell me the 'other side' of everything. It is just the myopic or even blind view of so many that makes the division in our country...and again...I will say this....the political victory that goes unchallenged is that this administration and movement pits US against eachother and KILLS honest dialogue......
I still say we should hire him as a consultant before we kill him, since he apparently knew how to keep civil war from erupting in his country for decades.
I still say we should hire him as a consultant before we kill him, since he apparently knew how to keep civil war from erupting in his country for decades.
I still say we should hire him as a consultant before we kill him, since he apparently knew how to keep civil war from erupting in his country for decades.
that's funny in a way. but, if you want to talk about a culture of fear, that was a culture of fear which led to extreme apathy. what was going on before the u.s. invasion was not good, but what is going on now is not what needs to be done to push that country back into the race.
I was thrilled to read about this on CNN. Not only is the world freeing itself of an evil man, but the way he'll make his exit from this planet and his entrance into Hell is fantastic! A hanging? Too great for words. He deserves all he is about to endure. Good riddance.
I don't think Saddam's ways of suppressing a civil war are any secret. It was pretty simple: instill fear by torturing everybody and everybody's mother and children. The US is not exactly a shining example of human rights observation, but Saddam was way, way worse. His People genuinely feared him. They were afraid to even talk about him with their own family for fear of being arrested and tortured to death by Iraq's secret police.
I don't especially like Saddam, but I think the courts should set him free and just admit that the real crime that was committed by the Iraqi people when they let that guy take control of the country.
It's really strange to me that while the EU rightly declared its opposition to the death sentence (not supporting death penalty is a requisite to join the EU), still the UK foreign minister, Margharet Beckett, sent her welcome for the sentence. I think she has to apologise to the EU for this.
Yeah, that struck me as well.
Guess she forgot that the UK is still part of the EU formally, and not the US 52nd (or 51?) state.
America tries to do the same thing. We even have a fancy new law that strips your rights if you make a big enough noise. You can be hauled off without representation, and forced to stand trial in a secret court. All that has to happen, is you have to make a big enough noise to be labeled an enemy of America.
It's really strange to me that while the EU rightly declared its opposition to the death sentence (not supporting death penalty is a requisite to join the EU), still the UK foreign minister, Margharet Beckett, sent her welcome for the sentence. I think she has to apologise to the EU for this.
curiosely today Blair expressed his complete opposition to death penalty, even for Saddam. I hope he will scold M. Beckett.
i'd like to know what people think about waiting for the outcome of the other charges. should they wait? or should they hang him now??
the sentence of yesterday went into appeal, so it is likely that the other sentences will be declared before that the appeal process for this sentence will reach an end.
America tries to do the same thing. We even have a fancy new law that strips your rights if you make a big enough noise. You can be hauled off without representation, and forced to stand trial in a secret court. All that has to happen, is you have to make a big enough noise to be labeled an enemy of America.
What exactly does that mean? No one knows.
you make it sound easy. is the american government rounding up thousands of americans and executing them?
who are the people going to jail? not me or you, even though we have opposed several things about the government.
we are not doing the same thing saddam did to his people. nice try though.
you make it sound easy. is the american government rounding up thousands of americans and executing them?
who are the people going to jail? not me or you, even though we have opposed several things about the government.
we are not doing the same thing saddam did to his people. nice try though.
i don't know about the US. Or, i know, but since you would tell me "how do you know? you're not even american", I pass that to some american people.
But here in the UK, who's the people that have difficulties in getting out of jail? That stay longer than their sentence without motivation and can't appeal against that? That are deported from jail to countries where then they disappear or are tortured?
Answer: the most vulnerable classes of the society: immigrants, asylum seekers, poor people... That means: people that are not informed in their language about what's happening at the processes. That are not informed that they can make appeal. That "are immigrants so are terrorists". That don't have money for a proper lawyer so have a lawyer that follow 75 cases per time...
Welcome into the West, enjoy its human rights.
i don't know about the US. Or, i know, but since you would tell me "how do you know? you're not even american", I pass that to some american people.
But here in the UK, who's the people that have difficulties in getting out of jail? That stay longer than their sentence without motivation and can't appeal against that? That are deported from jail to countries where then they disappear or are tortured?
Answer: the most vulnerable classes of the society: immigrants, asylum seekers, poor people... That means: people that are not informed in their language about what's happening at the processes. That are not informed that they can make appeal. That "are immigrants so are terrorists". That don't have money for a proper lawyer so have a lawyer that follow 75 cases per time...
Welcome into the West, enjoy its human rights.
this verdict makes me a bit uncomfortable - I'm not sure why... there's just something wrong about the whole thing.
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Nice try but no. It's because I'm against the death penalty.
Okay.
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A lot of people like you think that people that oppose death penalty want milk and cookies for prisoners. Ignorants.
www.amnesty.org.uk
www.amnesty.org.uk
just trying to give him some consouling words. he is sad about it.
I said I wasn't happy with the verdict because I oppose the death penalty.
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Lets have a good talk here. If you found that America killed innocent people for its own self interest, is it any different to you, or do you feel like it is in your name and for your preservation and that is okay? That is what it breaks down to......tribes and circles. Other countries cannot kill innocents or have weapons to protect themselves, but we can have unlimited access and perform messy but unscrutinized self-interest operations because it is us.
The most ridiculous thing I have ever tried to understand is this: Bush called Iraq, Iran and South Korea the axis of evil, then went on to invade Iraq. Put yourself in the remaining two countries positions....would you sit back, after the US declared you an enemy to liberty, invaded one of the countries in your defined position, and do nothing? What makes you think that other countries dont fear having damage done to them, or what makes you think that people outside the US dont have the same inherent desire to protect themselves and their families at any and every capacity they can. We have a numb approach the rest of the world.....almost as if we cannot understand that Iraqis; no matter how many family members they lose; may be devestated by their loss and overwhelmed by it to a point that they never can give us a fair shot. We are totally responsible for everything we have done over there....we elected to do it all. So....the plan to keep moving forward is not okay with me at any level. I dont want to pull out or cut and run...dont ever put those words in my mouth because I have a quick reflex....I want to fix what we have fucked up, but I dont think the people that have boggled all of this even deserve a chance to fix it...let alone decide how to win. We are obligated to clean up the mess that the administration has created...and I have no idea how to do it without continuing to impose our will on other humans.
Fuck Saddam...but Fuck everyone that puts the interest of themselves and their tribes above anything else.
When you you see that we stand for morals based on the prevention of human suffering. We are flexible and dynamic and you have a book written by man over the course of thousands of years and you cherry pick your morals out of it. (not you directly, I think).....The problem is that your morals are dictated by fear and not founded on the desire to end/fix/prevent human suffering at any level.
The "moral majority" is the most fearful, corrupt, least self-reflective and hollow movement I can think of.
At the end of all of this.....I dont want to isolate anyone and I want to bring us together at some level....we dont agree and I AM OKAY with that....I still see room for us to get along and live as supportive neighbors. I truly believe in balance and that even I would walk myself off a cliff if I didnt have someone there to tell me the 'other side' of everything. It is just the myopic or even blind view of so many that makes the division in our country...and again...I will say this....the political victory that goes unchallenged is that this administration and movement pits US against eachother and KILLS honest dialogue......
I guess I am reaching out........I really am.....
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he killed anyone who opposed him.
that's funny in a way. but, if you want to talk about a culture of fear, that was a culture of fear which led to extreme apathy. what was going on before the u.s. invasion was not good, but what is going on now is not what needs to be done to push that country back into the race.
from my window to yours
I don't especially like Saddam, but I think the courts should set him free and just admit that the real crime that was committed by the Iraqi people when they let that guy take control of the country.
http://forums.pearljam.com/showthread.php?t=272825
So true! One of history's great ironies.
Yeah, that struck me as well.
Guess she forgot that the UK is still part of the EU formally, and not the US 52nd (or 51?) state.
Are you an american living in canada?
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What do you want to do? Rehabilitate him? What good would locking him up do?
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America tries to do the same thing. We even have a fancy new law that strips your rights if you make a big enough noise. You can be hauled off without representation, and forced to stand trial in a secret court. All that has to happen, is you have to make a big enough noise to be labeled an enemy of America.
What exactly does that mean? No one knows.
old music: http://www.myspace.com/slowloader
www.amnesty.org.uk
www.amnesty.org.uk
keep him from torturing or killing anyone else?
you make it sound easy. is the american government rounding up thousands of americans and executing them?
who are the people going to jail? not me or you, even though we have opposed several things about the government.
we are not doing the same thing saddam did to his people. nice try though.
But here in the UK, who's the people that have difficulties in getting out of jail? That stay longer than their sentence without motivation and can't appeal against that? That are deported from jail to countries where then they disappear or are tortured?
Answer: the most vulnerable classes of the society: immigrants, asylum seekers, poor people... That means: people that are not informed in their language about what's happening at the processes. That are not informed that they can make appeal. That "are immigrants so are terrorists". That don't have money for a proper lawyer so have a lawyer that follow 75 cases per time...
Welcome into the West, enjoy its human rights.
www.amnesty.org.uk
you rarely make any sense
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
www.amnesty.org.uk
becuase you do not write well. I cant understand what you are trying to say half the time.