The difference between northern and southern racists:

KosmicJelli

jlew24asu wrote:

maybe I'm lucky but I do not experience any signs of racism in Chicago. which is historically known for such things. I think it's gotten better as time has gone on.

Im sorry... Im not trying to be mean... but did you forget Cabrini Green? What about greedy devolopers whom took housing? Nobody ever cared once what happened in that neighborhood until it came to money? What happened to the people living there?
The westside of Chicago? Where you can stand at one corner and watch two sides of the street at Central Ave.... where yuppies do their Frank Lloyd Wright home tour then look to the otherside to the most filthiest most horrid ghetto crack house tour? A blantant division of segregation?


OMG...

Ebizzie

MakingWaves wrote:

I have read before where studies were done and showed that blacks and whites actually interacted more in the South. Just curious of peoples opinions on this.

Having experienced both, I would agree with this statement.

Here in Atlanta I work with probably more minorities than I do caucasians. I go out to our home office in Denver, same jobs different locale, and there are like nothing but white people. I go home to Chicago and the malls are packed with white folks but down here it's a mixed bunch. Population numbers alone dictate that in the south you must interact with blacks more often. Up north everyone is segregated in a sense by neighborhoods. Not too much so down south.

melodious

MakingWaves wrote:

I have read before where studies were done and showed that blacks and whites actually interacted more in the South. Just curious of peoples opinions on this.

In my community, which boasts a population of 56,000 for an entire county, I have noticed that their is division between people of color and latinos....that latinos, native americans, and mid easterners cohabitate seemingly well, but cauci's seem to either mesh with cauci's and all the other blends or stand in a posture of fear...

and if anything white people (majority) are either offering open hearts of support or wallow in even a hostile and combative manifestation of prejudice...

the people who are uneducated and motivationally or becasue of their lack of worldly experiences (too poor to leave the area, let alone the city) challenged seem to have the biggest of issues...

being in an economically depressed area reveals a lot...


i do not think being poor, rich, black, white, brown, yellow or red, has anything to do with showing eachother common courtesy...which is what we need to put peace back on the table...in our Homes..


I read somewhere, that when you are walking down a street and you encounter another human, try to make eye contact and give acknowledgement for the gift of another life. Say hello, or if you are shy, atleast offer a nod....when doing this you are praising the LIVING...


Making this a practice opens up a door for gratitude and humility; which can only be recycled for individual betterment....

butters

DOSW wrote:

Apparently there are lots of Scottish in the South.

That's no joke tho, most of the people you would call hillbillies were ancestors of scottish expatriates. They tended to congregate to the appalachians, as I understand it.

Strangest Tribe

fanch75 wrote:

I posted this in another thread and found it worthy of its own thread.

Here is the difference (by example) between northern racists and southern racists:

Southern racist: "Youns a damn n#%*&$!!!!!! I'll take ye out Buckhannon way and learn ye!"

Northern racist: "Oh, there is a black guy over there! Lock the door!" (sipping a latte', in her Jetta speeding back to the 'burbs after attending a fundraiser for school lunches for young black students in the inner city)

yeah and Bigots come from all races don't they???

Nothing worse than generalizing the races and cultures.

LONGRD

Only the narrow minded idiots are racists.
you can't say all Southerners are like that.
I lived in the Southern(Alabama/N.C.) and Northeast,
there are racists idiots on both sides.
though maybe more in the South.

fanch75

Strangest Tribe wrote:

yeah and Bigots come from all races don't they???

Nothing worse than generalizing the races and cultures.

Watch out for Johnny Serious!

lalalalaaaaaaaa

fanch75 wrote:

Watch out for Johnny Serious!

I think you mean Yahoo Serious.

There is no Johnny Serious.

Strangest Tribe

let me guess

fanch is one of those disenfanchised

KosmicJelli

Strangest Tribe wrote:

yeah and Bigots come from all races don't they???

Nothing worse than generalizing the races and cultures.

You are so correct.... racism is racism no matter whom is the offender...

Doesnt always mean white on black thank you for that clarification...

Dustin51

fanch75 wrote:

I posted this in another thread and found it worthy of its own thread.

Here is the difference (by example) between northern racists and southern racists:

Southern racist: "Youns a damn n#%*&$!!!!!! I'll take ye out Buckhannon way and learn ye!"

Northern racist: "Oh, there is a black guy over there! Lock the door!" (sipping a latte', in her Jetta speeding back to the 'burbs after attending a fundraiser for school lunches for young black students in the inner city)

I've always maintained that the biggest difference is where they live. (That's my Mitt Romney answer)

moxie

You are actually correct with this assessment. We briefly discussed this in my lit class when talking about the Harlem renaissance and that the writers of that time noted that the north was every bit as racist as the south, only southerners were more upfront about it.

Dustin51

moxie wrote:

You are actually correct with this assessment. We briefly discussed this in my lit class when talking about the Harlem renaissance and that the writers of that time noted that the north was every bit as racist as the south, only southerners were more upfront about it.

Hmmm...just throwing a couple things out there. First of all...how does one quantify racism? Secondly, would being more vocal equate into actually being a more fervent racist?

Also, The North being every bit as racist does that mean that there are the same percentage of racist living in both places?

Not challenging you just interested in possible responses.

cornnifer

The difference between Northern and Southern racists is wolves and foxes, really, with northerners being the foxes and southerners the wolves. With a wolf, at least you know where you stand. Foxes on the other hand will trick you into thinking they aren't going to eat you and before you know it, they gobble you up and spit out the bones.

Drew263

Urban Hiker wrote:

I've seen racism in the form of employment discrimination where I work practiced by all of the rainbow. Some people get hired, some people don't, some people get overtime despite spending the whole week on the internet or just 'looking' busy, other people don't. And, I live in Seattle.

My ex once went to Alabama. He came back shocked describing a sign that read "Niggers be out by dark."

Very sad.

Being from Alabama, that is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. I have never seen anything like that. People that have not been to a place shouldn't make generalizations about said place. I've been to your state. It wasn't that much different.

Actually now that I remember the Gorge weekend, a girl from Seattle asked me where I was from and replied, "eww aren't there a lot of black people there?"

Urban Hiker

Drew263 wrote:

Being from Alabama, that is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. I have never seen anything like that. People that have not been to a place shouldn't make generalizations about said place. I've been to your state. It wasn't that much different.

Actually now that I remember the Gorge weekend, a girl from Seattle asked me where I was from and replied, "eww aren't there a lot of black people there?"

You should hear the ridiculous questions we ask the Canadians!

Anyway, that sign was seen and it made a HUGE impression on some people from the north who were there on business. I've already explained this in a post further back in the thread. However, being as it was seen by passers-by, I do not know how long the sign was posted or if something like that would cause an uproar amongst its community. I don't know the area.

Which brings me to a post I'm borrowing from another thread:http://forums.pearljam.com/showthread.php?t=272791

Urban Hiker wrote:

Abookamongstthemany wrote:

I hangout in greenville almost every weekend, grew up and still live 30 mins away...neither of these two posts accurately describe the city. That being said, there are people like the ones described who live there but I'm sure you're both aware that this kind of mentality exists everywhere else, too. Hate, though on its decline, imo, still is alive and well all over this country and planet, for that matter. Personally, I view people that assume the south is filled to the brim with nothing but gomer pyles, inbred rednecks and sheet-wearing assholes to be just as ignorant, stereotypical and misinformed as the racists they show such disdain towards.

Thank you, thank you, thank you.

I know of some so-called open minded people who refuse to go to the South, because of their impression of its population as a whole. They actually fear going there. :eek:

Watched 'Deliverance' a few too many times I suppose. :rolleyes:

However, the South is used as THE example of America's racist past. At least it was for me. It was always the video of some southern state with segregated everything. That's something those states might want to work to improve.

What about Japanese internment camps? They certainly were not exclusive to the south. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_American_internment

What about institutionalized racism such as mortgage red lines. Where people in certain neighborhoods that were known as minority neighborhoods were basically barred from obtaining mortgages and therefore left out of the wealth that can be created and carried on by homeownership. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redlining

fanch75

Drew263 wrote:

Actually now that I remember the Gorge weekend, a girl from Seattle asked me where I was from and replied, "eww aren't there a lot of black people there?"

lol, that's a lot like the example i gave in the original post in this thread