Is America still too racist to elect a Black President?

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  • Purple HawkPurple Hawk Posts: 1,300
    qtegirl wrote:
    are they mainstream?

    Aren't they the exception rather than the rule? And, how do they compare to Obama. Putting them next to each other, would you consider Obama to be a socialist?

    You said that there are no socialists in American politics, I was only correcting you.

    I consider Obama to be a self-absorbed politician who is interested in obtaining power. Like Clinton, I don't believe he has any core principals, he focuses on charisma instead of articulating ideas.

    Anyways, I want to get back to this idiotic (and yes, i really do mean idiotic) idea that the South, Republicans, and Americans in general are racists and that's why dopes like Harold Ford lose elections. In the south: Clarance Thomas runs against John Kerry....Who wins?
    And you ask me what I want this year
    And I try to make this kind and clear
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  • I would vote based on race. Im not some hard core racist or anything close to it but when it comes to runnning this country I think it should be a white person. Most blacks would vote for a black person. It works both ways.
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  • Black political figures are typically Democratic. Without the black vote, no Democratic president would have been elected (as blacks typically vote Democrat) in the past 50 years or so. That being said, there's a good chance that a black candidate would win by votes among the blacks, and many of the white liberals.

    Every nation will always have racisms, it's retarded to deny that. So why act like only America is racist?
  • I think right now is perfect time for a black person, or a female to run b/c we are soooooo pissed off at our government. We are prepared, at least I believe we are, to do what it takes to get the hell out of this war. So, you show me a candidate that will do it, and I can show you the next president, dispite, race, color, gender, ethnicity, ect.
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  • Purple HawkPurple Hawk Posts: 1,300
    I would vote based on race. Im not some hard core racist or anything close to it but when it comes to runnning this country I think it should be a white person.

    Translation: "I'm not some hard core racist, I just act like one" Damn, even Robert Byrd would find your post disturbing. Actually, he wouldn't...but Trent Lott would :)
    And you ask me what I want this year
    And I try to make this kind and clear
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    And desire and love and empty things
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
  • Translation: "I'm not some hard core racist, I just act like one" Damn, even Robert Byrd would find your post disturbing. Actually, he wouldn't...but Trent Lott would :)


    Hey, you talking about our Robert Byrd?!?!?!
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  • Purple HawkPurple Hawk Posts: 1,300
    humanlight wrote:
    Hey, you talking about our Robert Byrd?!?!?!

    Hey, is it true that you guys burn couches after WVU wins? (not sure if you're in or near Morgantown)

    I have a question though with regard to WV politics. I was doing some campaign finance research, and saw that some guy ran for congress in WV and spent about $9 million of his own money two years in a row and lost both times. What's that guy all about?
    And you ask me what I want this year
    And I try to make this kind and clear
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
    Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
    And desire and love and empty things
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    Im not some hard core racist or anything close to it but when it comes to runnning this country I think it should be a white person.

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  • jeffbrjeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    I would vote based on race. Im not some hard core racist or anything close to it but when it comes to runnning this country I think it should be a white person. Most blacks would vote for a black person. It works both ways.

    I applaud your honesty and am completely disgusted by it at the same time.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • Hey, is it true that you guys burn couches after WVU wins? (not sure if you're in or near Morgantown)

    I have a question though with regard to WV politics. I was doing some campaign finance research, and saw that some guy ran for congress in WV and spent about $9 million of his own money two years in a row and lost both times. What's that guy all about?


    Yea, WVU gets pretty crazy. I graduated from Marshall University (We Are Marshall- the new movie) anyway, my brother goes to a lot of WVU games and there is a lot of couch burning. I never thought that was even odd, until I have talked to other people, and they kind of have the same reaction you do. Like WTF are you crazy hillbillies doing? Anyway, Morgantown just passed a law that you are not allowed to have ANY furnature outside your home. Yep, b/c people will burn it!

    And the politician you are speaking of, I am not sure his name, but if you know his name....I could help out maybe.
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  • Just get us the hell out of this war....and I think your our next president.
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  • jeffbrjeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    humanlight wrote:
    Hey, you talking about our Robert Byrd?!?!?!

    So do you guys like the king of the pork and his politics, or do you just vote for him because he's the best looter in congress and can bring home the bacon?
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • jeffbr wrote:
    So do you guys like the king of the pork and his politics, or do you just vote for him because he's the best looter in congress and can bring home the bacon?


    He is West Virginia. I mean a road, building or bridge in EVERY town is named after this man. To us, I think he represents a chance to not be forgetable. He is so famous, I mean you guys on here know the man. I could not name Senators from your states necessarily. And believe it or not, I have met MANY people who don't even know that we are our own state, not the west of Virginia. Anyway, so with Byrd in office, people know us. They know him, so we are noticed. I think we feel overlooked, and he is our confidence around that.
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  • Hummm....this kind of sizzled out....just trying to keep the train a rolling.
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  • floyd1975floyd1975 Posts: 1,350
    jeffbr wrote:
    I applaud your honesty and am completely disgusted by it at the same time.

    I am disgusted by the thought process that kind of post shows, but I think I get the point that was being made.
  • jeffbr wrote:
    I applaud your honesty and am completely disgusted by it at the same time.


    Thats fine if your disgusted. I live in the most dangerous city in the U.S. Its ran by a black guy, he has proved himself to be very racist and cares only about blacks. Blacks care only about blacks, thats why they would never get my vote. I hang out with a couple black guys that I work with a 3 times a month but I wouldnt vote for them.
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  • onelongsongonelongsong Posts: 3,517
    are we talking about the old racism or the new modern racism? there's a big difference.
  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    Thats fine if your disgusted. I live in the most dangerous city in the U.S. Its ran by a black guy, he has proved himself to be very racist and cares only about blacks. Blacks care only about blacks, thats why they would never get my vote. I hang out with a couple black guys that I work with a 3 times a month but I wouldnt vote for them.

    Look Strom Thurman is back from the grave.
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  • floyd1975floyd1975 Posts: 1,350
    mammasan wrote:
    Look Strom Thurman is back from the grave.

    Why bring him back from the grave? Robert Byrd and Charlie Melancon are still elected officials.
  • floyd1975floyd1975 Posts: 1,350
    Thats fine if your disgusted. I live in the most dangerous city in the U.S. Its ran by a black guy, he has proved himself to be very racist and cares only about blacks. Blacks care only about blacks, thats why they would never get my vote. I hang out with a couple black guys that I work with a 3 times a month but I wouldnt vote for them.

    Not all black people are the same and neither are all white people.
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,508
    I think there are many whites that would vote for a white candidate over a black candidate because of only color.

    I think there are many blacks that would vote for a black candidate over a white candidate because of only color.


    I think they are all idiots.
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  • Pacomc79Pacomc79 Posts: 9,404
    all I can say is that we have a black female mayor here in Atlanta and she's probably done the best job of anyone in the last century, because she is actually paying attention to infrastructure.
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  • hippiemomhippiemom Posts: 3,326
    Thats fine if your disgusted. I live in the most dangerous city in the U.S. Its ran by a black guy, he has proved himself to be very racist and cares only about blacks. Blacks care only about blacks, thats why they would never get my vote. I hang out with a couple black guys that I work with a 3 times a month but I wouldnt vote for them.
    And yet you can say, presumably with a straight face, that you are not a racist?

    :rolleyes:
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  • MakingWavesMakingWaves Posts: 1,293
    If America had 2 guys standing for election, one white, one black, is America still too racist to vote in the black guy? Particularly in the southern states I think people would vote for the white guy, because he's white.

    I am so tired of this southern sterotype. I have been all over this country and guess what? There are racist everywhere. So I have to say you are wrong that in particularly in the southern states people would vote against the black guy. If the black was conservative and the white was liberal, the black would win every time in the south.
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  • I guess we know the answer to this question i posed two years ago now!!!
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  • AnonAnon Posts: 11,175
    mammasan wrote:
    Look Strom Thurman is back from the grave.
    :D
  • know1know1 Posts: 6,794
    I saw on the coverage last night a statistic that stated:

    For people in which race WAS AN ISSUE for this election - 55% of them voted for OBAMA.

    I'll say this, it's pretty sad that race is even an issue at all, but it looks like the racist majority won this one.
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  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,200
    know1 wrote:
    I saw on the coverage last night a statistic that stated:

    For people in which race WAS AN ISSUE for this election - 55% of them voted for OBAMA.

    I'll say this, it's pretty sad that race is even an issue at all, but it looks like the racist majority won this one.

    Well maybe they decided to vote for the white half of Obama, you never knowI could be.

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  • AnonAnon Posts: 11,175
    know1 wrote:
    I saw on the coverage last night a statistic that stated:

    For people in which race WAS AN ISSUE for this election - 55% of them voted for OBAMA.

    I'll say this, it's pretty sad that race is even an issue at all, but it looks like the racist majority won this one.
    Race is an issue for you. Yes. You make that very clear. You're always trolling for a fight about it.
  • Staceb10Staceb10 Posts: 675
    Pacomc79 wrote:
    Or black people voting for them because they are black.


    Do you think that didn't happen? I'm not saying every black person that voted for Obama did it simply because he's black. But I think its safe to say that a large percentage of the votes were for that very reason. Now its time to see what he can do.. regardless of his skin color.
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