Is America still too racist to elect a Black President?

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  • NickyNooch
    NickyNooch Posts: 629
    Had Colin Powell ran in 2000, he would've won. Granted I am not a Colin Powell fan at all, but I strongly believe he would've won.

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  • RainDog
    RainDog Posts: 1,824
    yield2me wrote:
    All I'm saying is that if Obama or Hilary gets put for the Dem nom then they've just handed the presidency over to the republicans...again! This country (as sad as this is to say) will not elect a black president or a woman for president...it sucks I know, but thats the truth.
    Even if the Republicans win, it's better to lose on principle. In the long run, in order to keep a majority of a country that "won't elect a woman or African American" under their tent, the Republicans are going to have to go a little liberal. And, for a non-party affiliated liberal, that's better than nothing - and far better than two conservative parties.

    That being said, I'm not a huge Hillary fan. Go Obama! Hey, if anyone can beat the "black man with the middle name Hussein" tag, it's him.
  • yield2me
    yield2me Posts: 1,291
    mookie9999 wrote:
    I beg to differ with Hillary. I believe that if Hillary runs anyone and everyone who loved Bubba in office would love for him to get back in one way or another. I think it's the Clinton loophole that will allow a Clinton in the White House for 16 years! A guy can hope right?



    I can't believe that you guys actually think that a woman could get elected in this country! It would be suicide for the Dems to nominate her. I know we would all love to believe that our country isn't like that and that we are advanced enough to put a woman in office...but the fact is that we aren't...won't happen
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  • yield2me
    yield2me Posts: 1,291
    RainDog wrote:
    Even if the Republicans win, it's better to lose on principle. In the long run, in order to keep a majority of a country that "won't elect a woman or African American" under their tent, the Republicans are going to have to go a little liberal. And, for a non-party affiliated liberal, that's better than nothing - and far better than two conservative parties.

    That being said, I'm not a huge Hillary fan. Go Obama! Hey, if anyone can beat the "black man with the middle name Hussein" tag, it's him.


    Our country can't afford another 4 years of a Republican run goverment because the Dems want to prove a point and "lose on principle" thats bullshit.
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  • RainDog
    RainDog Posts: 1,824
    yield2me wrote:
    Our country can't afford another 4 years of a Republican run goverment because the Dems want to prove a point and "lose on principle" thats bullshit.
    Not really. Even if we get a Republican president, it isn't likely we'll have a wholly Republican government for quite a while.

    The Democrats tried to be all things to everyone when they organized Kerry's campaign. While I don't have a problem with Kerry, he'd have been far more electable had he appeared to be a little more "unelectable."
  • Julien
    Julien Posts: 2,457
    pushmepullme wrote:
    If America had 2 guys standing for election, one white, one black, is America still too racist to vote in the black guy? Particularly in the southern states I think people would vote for the white guy, because he's white.

    YES... Unfortunately, the color of the skin is still a problem for many people who doesn't want to understand this has nothing to do with what's in the people' mind... Racism makes me sick !
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  • floyd1975
    floyd1975 Posts: 1,350
    yield2me wrote:
    Our country can't afford another 4 years of a Republican run goverment because the Dems want to prove a point and "lose on principle" thats bullshit.

    Not all Republicans are the same person. Neither are all Democrats.
  • floyd1975
    floyd1975 Posts: 1,350
    Julien wrote:
    YES... Unfortunately, the color of the skin is still a problem for many people who doesn't want to understand this has nothing to do with what's in the people' mind... Racism makes me sick !

    I would never vote for Sen. Obama. Maybe I make you sick too.
  • mookie9999
    mookie9999 Posts: 4,677
    zstillings wrote:
    I would never vote for Sen. Obama. Maybe I make you sick too.
    Are you a racist?
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  • Julien
    Julien Posts: 2,457
    zstillings wrote:
    I would never vote for Sen. Obama. Maybe I make you sick too.

    Wouldn't you vote for him because
    1. his skin is darker than yours, or
    2. because you don't agree with his politic thoughts...

    If 2, that's ok, but if you chose 1, sorry but that makes me sick...
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  • floyd1975
    floyd1975 Posts: 1,350
    mookie9999 wrote:
    Are you a racist?

    According to some I may be although I am not. It is just as ugly to accuse people of being a racist as it is to be one. If Senator Obama somehow wins the nomination and loses the general then this accusation will be thrown around with absolutely no regard for the truth or any real reasons as to why he was not elected. Anyone who doesn't vote for him will open themselves up to being called a racist when race, for the majority of us, means nothing.
  • floyd1975
    floyd1975 Posts: 1,350
    Julien wrote:
    Wouldn't you vote for him because
    1. his skin is darker than yours, or
    2. because you don't agree with his politic thoughts...

    If 2, that's ok, but if you chose 1, sorry but that makes me sick...

    My reasoning would be that I do not agree with his politics.
  • RainDog
    RainDog Posts: 1,824
    zstillings wrote:
    According to some I may be although I am not. It is just as ugly to accuse people of being a racist as it is to be one. If Senator Obama somehow wins the nomination and loses the general then this accusation will be thrown around with absolutely no regard for the truth or any real reasons as to why he was not elected. Anyone who doesn't vote for him will open themselves up to being called a racist when race, for the majority of us, means nothing.
    Likewise, if Obama is nominated and wins the general, they'll be plenty of people saying "well, that's just because he's a good looking black man in a suit." It's a "no-win" situation for whomever becomes the first black (or non-WMA) presidential nominee.
  • onelongsong
    onelongsong Posts: 3,517
    pushmepullme wrote:
    If America had 2 guys standing for election, one white, one black, is America still too racist to vote in the black guy? Particularly in the southern states I think people would vote for the white guy, because he's white.

    i think america could elect a black president with a white vice president; but the president won't live long.
  • floyd1975
    floyd1975 Posts: 1,350
    RainDog wrote:
    Likewise, if Obama is nominated and wins the general, they'll be plenty of people saying "well, that's just because he's a good looking black man in a suit." It's a "no-win" situation for whomever becomes the first black (or non-WMA) president.

    I fully agree with that. That hypothetical is just as sickening as the original post of this thread.
  • MCG
    MCG Posts: 780
    But I'm sure there's just enough racisim tonot be able to elect a black president. You are probably more likely to see a white woman before a black man unless Dave Chapelle runs or something.
    Which came first,
    the bad idea or me befallen by it?
  • qtegirl
    qtegirl Posts: 321
    RainDog wrote:
    Likewise, if Obama is nominated and wins the general, they'll be plenty of people saying "well, that's just because he's a good looking black man in a suit."
    How is that different from the people who voted for Bush because they saw him a man that "they could see themselves having a beer with"? He totally sold himself as a normal cowboy.

    Both instances are wrong, but both are tried and true.
  • Boom The Cat
    Boom The Cat Posts: 482
    know1 wrote:
    I do resent the South stereotype, though. What the original poster is doing there is no less prejudiced than someone not voting for a president just due to race.

    Exactly.
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    there you are.

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  • Purple Hawk
    Purple Hawk Posts: 1,300
    qtegirl wrote:
    Oh Whatever!

    There are no socialists in American politics! Do you know what a socialist is??

    There aren't any people in the mainstream politics, I mean the people who actually get elected, who is left of center.

    Every hear of Bernie Sanders, Lindsay?
    And you ask me what I want this year
    And I try to make this kind and clear
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
    Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
    And desire and love and empty things
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
  • qtegirl
    qtegirl Posts: 321
    Purple Hawk wrote:
    Every hear of Bernie Sanders, Lindsay?
    are they mainstream?

    Aren't they the exception rather than the rule? And, how do they compare to Obama. Putting them next to each other, would you consider Obama to be a socialist?

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