Why are Alcohol sales in grocery stores on Sunday a big deal?

luckyman

Think i will get a beer out of the fridge right now...........

chromiam

No alcohol sales in grocery stores in PA... hell no alcohol sales other than from state stores or beer distributors.. so stop the complaining

Although they are open on sunday now for a few hours... can't expect football fans to go without beer on sundays

soulsinging

chromiam wrote:

No alcohol sales in grocery stores in PA... hell no alcohol sales other than from state stores or beer distributors.. so stop the complaining

Although they are open on sunday now for a few hours... can't expect football fans to go without beer on sundays

PA has the most fucked up liquor laws i ever heard of. damn amish.

hippiemom

soulsinging wrote:

PA has the most fucked up liquor laws i ever heard of. damn amish.

They're still dry on election day! My poor daughter was living in Pittsburgh in '04 and couldn't even drown her sorrows. It's inhumane.

tybird

chromiam wrote:

No alcohol sales in grocery stores in PA... hell no alcohol sales other than from state stores or beer distributors.. so stop the complaining

Although they are open on sunday now for a few hours... can't expect football fans to go without beer on sundays

and I thought Alabama had some bad laws.

Collin

I'm so glad I live where I live. Even when all the stores are closed there are still night shops or you can probably find a vending machine that has beer in it.

even flow?

Collin wrote:

I'm so glad I live where I live. Even when all the stores are closed there are still night shops or you can probably find a vending machine that has beer in it.

Funny you mention this. When I was in Holland, we were at a hotel and they had a Heiniken machine. Screw Coke! I thought and still think it may have been one of the best sights on any trip I have taken.

Heineken Helen

Collin wrote:

I'm so glad I live where I live. Even when all the stores are closed there are still night shops or you can probably find a vending machine that has beer in it.

:eek: Now THAT'S an excellent idea beer vending machines

Collin

even flow? wrote:

Funny you mention this. When I was in Holland, we were at a hotel and they had a Heiniken machine. Screw Coke! I thought and still think it may have been one of the best sights on any trip I have taken.

Too bad it was Heineken and not a decent brand of beer:D

even flow?

Collin wrote:

Too bad it was Heineken and not a decent brand of beer:D

Us beggars can't be a choosers.

The guy at the front desk was sick of making change for us that night. We said, that the bar should still be open for us tacky tourists.

blackredyellow

I grew up in Pennsylvania, which could have the most screwed up liquor laws. To buy a six or twelve back, you have to go to a bar or six pack shop... to by a case or keg, you have to go to a beer distributor and if you want to but wine or liquor you have to go to a state run liquor store.

They made changes a few years back that some select liquor stores or beer distributors could be open on limted hours on sunday, but that was a hell of a fight.

Sure, the religious "blue law" people are a problem, but unions and bar associates are the big force that fights it... Bar owners fought long and hard against beer/liquor sales on sunday because it would hurt business. The state run liquor stores, their employee union, bar owners and beer distributors all fight against any effort to sell beer and wine in grocery stores.

Pacomc79

blackredyellow wrote:

I grew up in Pennsylvania, which could have the most screwed up liquor laws. To buy a six or twelve back, you have to go to a bar or six pack shop... to by a case or keg, you have to go to a beer distributor and if you want to but wine or liquor you have to go to a state run liquor store.

They made changes a few years back that some select liquor stores or beer distributors could be open on limted hours on sunday, but that was a hell of a fight.

Sure, the religious "blue law" people are a problem, but unions and bar associates are the big force that fights it... Bar owners fought long and hard against beer/liquor sales on sunday because it would hurt business. The state run liquor stores, their employee union, bar owners and beer distributors all fight against any effort to sell beer and wine in grocery stores.

the ridiculous wasteful mobs that are unions in this country are simply another blow to individuality and freedom. China and Taiwan are far more relavant places for them to exist, they cause more problems than good here in the US.

This kind of thing should be mind numbingly simple, unfortunately everyone is worried about how they can use the government to benefit thier particular end of things, rather than building a better business model.

If it weren't like that, hell Western Africa might be a nice place to live, because they could sell cotton.

?ing my education

Pacomc79 wrote:

Uh, lets see, you can buy it the other 6 days of the week and the actual Sabbath is Saturday if that's your deal. Not to mention you can already purchase alcohol in restaurants. Oh I forgot that yes your right to not purchase alcohol on Sunday or any other day has been upheld since the beggining of this government.

The whole root of this law is in forcing people to comply with the ideals of a small group of religious zealots. There is absolutely no reason for it's existance.

http://www.ajc.com/news/content/metro/legis07/stories/2007/03/27/0327metlegbooze.html

why don't they want it to come up to a vote? Because they know it would freaking pass easily.

Pac...might have to hit you up next time I head to ATL. Was down there for New Year's to Widespread Panic. Will be there again next NYE. I try to get down there for shows when I can....We don't know each other that well but hell you have given me enough advice on here, least I can do is by you a Sweetwater 420!

Pacomc79

?ing my education wrote:

Pac...might have to hit you up next time I head to ATL. Was down there for New Year's to Widespread Panic. Will be there again next NYE. I try to get down there for shows when I can....We don't know each other that well but hell you have given me enough advice on here, least I can do is by you a Sweetwater 420!

absolutely, just let me know, I heard WP was excellent this year.

?ing my education

Pacomc79 wrote:

absolutely, just let me know, I heard WP was excellent this year.

Excellent is right. With new guitarist Jimmy Herring, the are back in form, just like the days with Mikey (RIP). They hung a banner for them at Phillips Arena for selling out 15 straight New Year's shows at the arena. It was pretty sweet.

Flannel Shirt

Its the fucking Pilgrims fault.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_law

WhiteMaleRat

I know a liquor store owner in Mass. Forever, it was no liquor sales allowed on Sundays. They changed the law many years ago, that if a liquor store was within 10 miles of the NH border, they could open on Sundays. This way, Mass stores near NH could compete better. So the rest of Mass later came up to speed thinking they were losing out too (stores greater than 10 miles). But many store owners didn't want the law to change - they knew over the long haul, this does not increase business on an overall basis. Sure, you may increase total sales slightly, but the additional overhead into keeping the store open 7 days instead of 6 outweighs the additional profits. Additional costs include paying workers, utilities, book keeping etc. Also, Sunday was a good day to take care of things when the store was closed, like cleaning, stocking, etc. Now that stuff has to be done late night or during regular hours.

hippiemom

WhiteMaleRat wrote:

I know a liquor store owner in Mass. Forever, it was no liquor sales allowed on Sundays. They changed the law many years ago, that if a liquor store was within 10 miles of the NH border, they could open on Sundays. This way, Mass stores near NH could compete better. So the rest of Mass later came up to speed thinking they were losing out too (stores greater than 10 miles). But many store owners didn't want the law to change - they knew over the long haul, this does not increase business on an overall basis. Sure, you may increase total sales slightly, but the additional overhead into keeping the store open 7 days instead of 6 outweighs the additional profits. Additional costs include paying workers, utilities, book keeping etc. Also, Sunday was a good day to take care of things when the store was closed, like cleaning, stocking, etc. Now that stuff has to be done late night or during regular hours.

They don't HAVE to be open, do they? If it doesn't increase their profits, why would they open the store?

In Ohio, you have to pay for an additional license to sell on Sunday. I don't know why anyone would do that if they didn't think it was going to help their business.

Uncle Leo

hippiemom wrote:

They don't HAVE to be open, do they? If it doesn't increase their profits, why would they open the store?

If everyone else opens Sunday, though, I suspect each would have to in order to keep up. In other words, if the law keeps us all down, most of the lost Sunday sales come on Saturday or Monday. But if I close my store on Sunday, my lost Sunday sales go to other stores.

gabers

To quote a line from When Harry Met Sally.

"Because of God".