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Please Vote On Tuesday

blacknapkinsblacknapkins Posts: 2,176
edited November 2006 in A Moving Train
It is important.
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Knowledge is not wisdom.
Wisdom is not truth.
Truth is not beauty.
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Love is not music.
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  • jeffbrjeffbr Posts: 7,177
    Please don't vote on Tuesday unless you've studied the issues and are making informed choices (whichever way you vote).
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  • ThumbingMyWay32ThumbingMyWay32 Posts: 1,224
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  • DPrival78DPrival78 Posts: 2,263
    it is important.

    whats more important is that everyone's votes are counted properly.
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  • Pearl Jam and toastPearl Jam and toast Posts: 4,475
    jeffbr wrote:
    Please don't vote on Tuesday unless you've studied the issues and are making informed choices (whichever way you vote).
    Word.

    Being informed doesn't just mean voting it means being involved and actually informed.
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  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 15,946
    There are elections this Tuesday? First I've heard. My district will vote in a Democrat with a foot in the grave Tuesday.
  • Tom KTom K Posts: 842
    unless you are a republican.. too all republicans reading this.. the election has been moved to wednesday..
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  • hippiemomhippiemom Posts: 3,326
    jeffbr wrote:
    Please don't vote on Tuesday unless you've studied the issues and are making informed choices (whichever way you vote).
    YES!!!
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  • know1know1 Posts: 6,794
    I will not be voting again this election. I'm a conscientious objector in that I can't in good conscious vote for any of those crooks, and the term lesser of two evils isn't something I believe in endorsing.
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

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  • AbuskedtiAbuskedti Posts: 1,917
    know1 wrote:
    I will not be voting again this election. I'm a conscientious objector in that I can't in good conscious vote for any of those crooks, and the term lesser of two evils isn't something I believe in endorsing.

    I agree..

    Besides how do we know which is lessor?
  • JeanwahJeanwah Posts: 6,363
    know1 wrote:
    I will not be voting again this election. I'm a conscientious objector in that I can't in good conscious vote for any of those crooks, and the term lesser of two evils isn't something I believe in endorsing.

    Then don't plan on bitching about any issues then. You have no grounds to stand on if you don't vote.
  • know1know1 Posts: 6,794
    Jeanwah wrote:
    Then don't plan on bitching about any issues then. You have no grounds to stand on if you don't vote.

    Oh really? If I oppose BOTH candidates, how can I vote for one of them?
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • ledveddermanledvedderman Posts: 7,761
    You could still go pull a ballot, vote for the fields you want to, and then turn it in with as few or as many of the fields filled in. Just vote. If not, P Diddy will kill you. I think he's serious about his Vote or Die idea...
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  • JeanwahJeanwah Posts: 6,363
    know1 wrote:
    Oh really? If I oppose BOTH candidates, how can I vote for one of them?

    Hey, I have issues w/ the candidates too. I think most of them are greedy crooks, too. But if you choose not to vote, you are giving up any chance of making your voice heard. LedVedderman has the right idea...do a paper ballot. I personally think that there should be a 3rd column in the booths...NONE OF THE ABOVE. That way they'd really know what we think of the candidates.
  • AbuskedtiAbuskedti Posts: 1,917
    Jeanwah wrote:
    Hey, I have issues w/ the candidates too. I think most of them are greedy crooks, too. But if you choose not to vote, you are giving up any chance of making your voice heard. LedVedderman has the right idea...do a paper ballot. I personally think that there should be a 3rd column in the booths...NONE OF THE ABOVE. That way they'd really know what we think of the candidates.

    Not voting makes more sense to me. If less people voted in a system they didn't believe in, they'd have trouble continuine to pretend this is a democracy and perhaps become more of one.
  • know1know1 Posts: 6,794
    Jeanwah wrote:
    Hey, I have issues w/ the candidates too. I think most of them are greedy crooks, too. But if you choose not to vote, you are giving up any chance of making your voice heard. LedVedderman has the right idea...do a paper ballot. I personally think that there should be a 3rd column in the booths...NONE OF THE ABOVE. That way they'd really know what we think of the candidates.

    No...I'm not giving up any chance of making my voice heard. Where do you get that from?
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • AbuskedtiAbuskedti Posts: 1,917
    If there were an issue I felt required my vote - I'd vote.
  • JeanwahJeanwah Posts: 6,363
    Abuskedti wrote:
    Not voting makes more sense to me. If less people voted in a system they didn't believe in, they'd have trouble continuine to pretend this is a democracy and perhaps become more of one.

    NOT voting doesn't do anything. We already have a problem with the young people in America not voting, and it's probably the reason Bush won in '04. No one is going to look at the low percentages of Americans voting and say "hmm, we have a problem, no one's going the polls". What you need to do is speak up, vote for issues you believe in (there are a few credible candidates out there) or protest if you don't agree with what's going on.

    Sitting back and not voting doesn't make sense because you're achieving absolutely nothing.
  • AbuskedtiAbuskedti Posts: 1,917
    Jeanwah wrote:
    NOT voting doesn't do anything. We already have a problem with the young people in America not voting, and it's probably the reason Bush won in '04. No one is going to look at the low percentages of Americans voting and say "hmm, we have a problem, no one's going the polls". What you need to do is speak up, vote for issues you believe in (there are a few credible candidates out there) or protest if you don't agree with what's going on.

    Sitting back and not voting doesn't make sense because you're achieving absolutely nothing.

    I won't argue that I am not achieving anything.. But I just don't know who to vote for - the news lies to me, the candidates lie to me, the president lies to me.. I don't know who to vote for.

    I did know to vote againgst George Bush in 2004 - so I did. If I know something again.. I'll do the same
  • know1know1 Posts: 6,794
    Jeanwah wrote:
    NOT voting doesn't do anything. We already have a problem with the young people in America not voting, and it's probably the reason Bush won in '04. No one is going to look at the low percentages of Americans voting and say "hmm, we have a problem, no one's going the polls". What you need to do is speak up, vote for issues you believe in (there are a few credible candidates out there) or protest if you don't agree with what's going on.

    Sitting back and not voting doesn't make sense because you're achieving absolutely nothing.

    Not voting sends a message just like voting does.
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • JeanwahJeanwah Posts: 6,363
    know1 wrote:
    No...I'm not giving up any chance of making my voice heard. Where do you get that from?
    know1 wrote:
    Oh really? If I oppose BOTH candidates, how can I vote for one of them?

    You're not voting, or it least you make it sound that way.
  • know1know1 Posts: 6,794
    Jeanwah wrote:
    You're not voting, or it least you make it sound that way.

    But I can still voice my opinion about the issues. Not voting doesn't take away the right of free speech by any means.
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • JeanwahJeanwah Posts: 6,363
    know1 wrote:
    But I can still voice my opinion about the issues. Not voting sends a message just like voting does.

    NO, it doesn't. What was the percentage of America that voted in '04? Wasn't it something like 45% of the population? I'll have to look that up to be sure. But no one is doing anything about that majority who choose not to vote. By choosing not to have a voice, that's exactly what you're doing. You don't have one.
  • JeanwahJeanwah Posts: 6,363
    know1 wrote:
    But I can still voice my opinion about the issues. Not voting doesn't take away the right of free speech by any means.

    Then go do something. I'm all for Free Speech, people can't shut me up here in my corner of the world.

    Protest in the streets. Write your new congressman. Write the local government. Do ANYTHING but sit back and proclaim that by not voting, you're saying something, cause you're not.
  • old and in the wayold and in the way Posts: 62
    know1 wrote:
    Not voting sends a message just like voting does.
    How can this be? To whom and how are you getting any message out.
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  • know1know1 Posts: 6,794
    old and in the way wrote:
    How can this be? To whom and how are you getting any message out.

    You're telling them that you do not support any of the candidates and that if they want your support they will have to come up with something better.

    I do not understand how so many people CAN bring themselves to give a blanket 2, 4 or 6 year endorsement for someone to do whatever they want. I almost always disagree on some very fundamental level with a candidate and do not want to vote for them to do something that goes against what I feel is right.
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • AbuskedtiAbuskedti Posts: 1,917
    Jeanwah wrote:
    Then go do something. I'm all for Free Speech, people can't shut me up here in my corner of the world.

    Protest in the streets. Write your new congressman. Write the local government. Do ANYTHING but sit back and proclaim that by not voting, you're saying something, cause you're not.

    Well, don't sit back and proclaim that by voting you are doing something.

    Do ANYTHING
  • jeffbrjeffbr Posts: 7,177
    know1 wrote:
    Not voting sends a message just like voting does.

    No it doesn't. It makes you indistinguishable from the masses of apathetic voters, or lazy assholes.

    Go vote selectively. Choose some ballot issues, local races, etc... Go submit a ballot with no votes cast. That may send more of a message. But staying home sends absolutely no message at all.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    I find it funny how people say "If you don't vote, you can't complain"........That is such a stupid argument. If nothing else, it would mean that you can complain against both candidates. What if the only two options were Hitler and Sadaam? I have a lot more of a problem with people voting just for the sake of voting when they have no idea of what the person they are voting for stands for. So many people just go to vote and when they get there see a bunch of names that they have never heard of on the ballot........yet still vote for one of them anyway. If neither candidate supports your ideology or morals or values...........don't vote for either one...........I also have a big problem with voting for "the lesser of two evils". Calling congressmen and reps seems like a better way of voicing your opinion than voting in some cases.
  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    Abuskedti wrote:
    Well, don't sit back and proclaim that by voting you are doing something.

    Do ANYTHING
    I'm seriously starting to question if I am really doing anything by voting...........Other than wasting gas and time and a fragment of space on the memory card of the polling machine :)
  • hsewifhsewif Posts: 444
    know1 wrote:
    Not voting sends a message just like voting does.

    I disagree. Writing in Mickey Mouse or Santa would be a much better choice than not voting at all.
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