question for the parents.....

Heineken Helen

dunkman wrote:

quite a few 'non-parents' replied in this thread so how can we take their viewpoint seriously when they cant even read the fucking thread title


in answer to the thread... no, not cool

ah ok... so we can't have a fuckin opinion on stuff like this? Kids are still living in the same world as me, so I can have an opinion on what's good parenting and what's not :rolleyes: I was a kid once, all my friends were kids once.

decides2dream

while i am not a parent...i was a teacher for many years, have nephews, etc. i have to agree that no, i think it is unwise to smoke mj with your underage child in the US. if you live in the netherlands, entirely different scenario...but here in this country, while it is illegal.....i say no. a parent should be a role model of behavior. sure, perhaps discuss the whys of it, why you might think the laws are wrong, things should change...etc, etc...but i think you should set a positive/responsible model. my parents were ultra conservative and while it didn't stop me from ym own experiementation...it DID teach me to be 'responsible'....independent.....and smart with my choices. not to say i didn't do some dumb/risky things in my life....but yes, i was prepared mentally to make my own choices, and live with the consequences of my behavior, etc. i too believe a parent should teach about alcohol responsibility, and yes, not let their child drink underage either. however, i think it's a parent's choice of ultimately what they think is right for their own child..and who am i to tell them otherwise?



btw - for anyone suggesting non-parents NOT comment here....well, i don't want to see ANY male ever participate in a thread that says 'ladies please answer this'....etc, etc. hahaha. speedy himself not being a parent and posing the question...i think he left it open for all to answer/participate, even if his thread title suggested otherwise. besides, i believe this board is for ALL who want to participate. LOTs of people have opinions on topics without firsthand personal experience...like people who endlessly comment on what america and americans are like...and have never been here, eh?

my2hands

QuarterToTen wrote:

because marijuana is an illegal substance. big difference.

i disagree

i think that is the easy way out of the conversation... "the government says it is illegal, so that is all we need to know"

there is a major movement towards the legalization of marijuana, so when it succeeds and is made legal what will the argument be?

not to mention personal possesion is legal in a few states already

can someone that is not brainwashed "its illegal" please tell me the difference between alcohol and weed. i personally KNOW FOR A FACT that alcohol is FAR MORE DANGEROUS AND DESTRUCTIVE than marijuana. does anyone disagree with that?

my2hands

decides2dream wrote:

but here in this country, while it is illegal.....i say no.

i might throw up if i read "well it is illegal" one mroe time

it used to be illegal for women to vote too, did that make the concept of equal rights wrong?

and it used to be illegal for a black person to eat in a white establishment... that obviously was wrong...

so could we please move this debate beyond "legal" and "illegal" becasue historically that is not a good barometer of "right and wrong"

decides2dream

my2hands wrote:

i might throw up if i read "well it is illegal" one mroe time

it used to be illegal for women to vote too, did that make the concept of equal rights wrong?

and it used to be illegal for a black person to eat in a white establishment... that obviously was wrong...

so could we please move this debate beyond "legal" and "illegal" becasue historically that is not a good barometer of "right and wrong"

that's why people need to FIGHT for what they believe in...and if you want it legal, fight to make it so. for me, it really isn't an important issue, and as i don't have kids...i am unconcerned about setting apositive example in such a way.. but go ahead and throw up...i couldn't care less. point is, it is my personally held belief that while it is illegal, i think parents should set a better example for their children. feel free to disagree, and i wouldn't care....thus why should you care what my opinion is? i clearly stated, bottomline..i believe it's a parents individual call to make. as i don't have children, don't ever plan to, it's all a moot point for me. so no, for me...i won't move the debate beyond illegal and legal...b/c, for me, that's where it lies. i don't have an issue with mj use in the least and believe it should be legal, but while it IS illegal, i think parents should set the right example and not encourage/condone illegal behaoir in their underage children. when all adults, i think it's an entirely different discussion. you want to further the discussion beyond that point..do feel free.



btw - if/when mj use is made legal...as i think it should be...i would bet it would ONLY be legal for ADULTS. so again, i still would say a parent should encourage their children to wait until they are adults before making such adult choices, etc. just as right now i think a parent should NOT encourage/condone underage cigaretter smoking, nor drinking, etc.