question for the parents.....

SPEEDY MCCREADYSPEEDY MCCREADY Posts: 25,749
edited September 2007 in A Moving Train
is it ok for you to smoke dope with your child,niece,nephew.....if this child is under the age of 18????

just curious....i have a friend of mine who i think is so fucking out of line that it sickens me.....

but i am curious to what others think....

the child in question is 17.....
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  • there is no black and white answer to this question.
    I don't think it's a good idea.
    But would I think a friend was so out of line that they sickened me over it? nah...
  • LizardLizard So Cal Posts: 12,091
    i think it is pretty effed up and pretty damn black and white too.

    (I have 2 sons: 16 and 19)
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  • I should clarify that the grey area is determined by the kid's maturity and the other things going on in their lives.

    I know a lot of people that would give their kids a beer or glass of wine at that age without the social stigma and venom that is about to be spewed in this thread...
  • there is no black and white answer to this question.
    I don't think it's a good idea.
    But would I think a friend was so out of line that they sickened me over it? nah...
    smoking dope with your daughter who is 17 ............

    just kinda sickens me.....

    when/if i become a parent and the day comes when i light up some illegal drugs to smoke with my 17 year old daughter.....

    i hope to god someone takes a fucking baseball bat to my head.....because i would fucking deserve it.....
    Take me piece by piece.....
    Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
  • smoking dope with your daughter who is 17 ............

    just kinda sickens me.....

    when/if i become a parent and the day comes when i light up some illegal drugs to smoke with my 17 year old daughter.....

    i hope to god someone takes a fucking baseball bat to my head.....because i would fucking deserve it.....

    Deal :)
  • DeLukinDeLukin Posts: 2,757
    I have to agree that it's pretty black and white. There is no way a parent should participate in that kind of thing. Maybe turn a blind eye or not be too judgemental if they experiment on their own, but I definitely don't think it's a good idea to help your kid break the law or get into something that could lead to major problems down the road.
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  • JeanieJeanie Posts: 9,446
    is it ok for you to smoke dope with your child,niece,nephew.....if this child is under the age of 18????

    just curious....i have a friend of mine who i think is so fucking out of line that it sickens me.....

    but i am curious to what others think....

    the child in question is 17.....

    I'm not a parent Speedy, but I struggle when my niece comes outside to talk to me or be around me when I'm smoking cigarettes. I don't want her anywhere near me when I'm smoking but I don't want to make a big deal out of it either, which could backfire making it seem mysterious and cool to her. A problem that is becoming a reality because her Nana gives her lolly cigarettes and even make believe lights them for her. :mad:
    I also had a friend who had no problem buying her 16 teenage son alcohol, including a slab for his 17th birthday. She has no problem with him drinking as long as he's home and he doesn't drive. I spent one evening at a party at their house and after seeing how there is no effort to stop him drinking underage and there was even encouragement to a degree, I have to say I'm still feeling guilty for just being at the party and getting drunk myself in his presence and I'm not the parent. I can't then see me ever wishing to smoke MJ with my niece or anybody else that is underage, and I certainly wouldn't be encouraging it but it would depend on the circumstances, like whether or not I knew the age of the people I was smoking with.
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  • I have to chuckle that people mention the age of consent as any kind of guideline, when it's illegal for everyone. If you are concerned about giving the wrong impression, age shouldn't make a difference. The only reason I think age matters is for development...but like I said, I don't see half the social stigma to a toke off a joint that I do with a glass of wine, which is hypocritical. That said, neither is a good idea.
  • tybirdtybird Posts: 17,388
    smoking dope with your daughter who is 17 ............

    just kinda sickens me.....

    when/if i become a parent and the day comes when i light up some illegal drugs to smoke with my 17 year old daughter.....

    i hope to god someone takes a fucking baseball bat to my head.....because i would fucking deserve it.....
    I agree with you.......it's truly fucking sad what your friend is doing.
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  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,200
    smoking dope with your daughter who is 17 ............

    just kinda sickens me.....

    when/if i become a parent and the day comes when i light up some illegal drugs to smoke with my 17 year old daughter.....

    i hope to god someone takes a fucking baseball bat to my head.....because i would fucking deserve it.....

    It's sort of like having sex with your 1st cousin, some do it but it's just not a very good idea. Something just not right about doing that.

    There's no age limit on it either, I could be 60 and daughter could be 30 I STILL wouldn't do it. At that stage I would be thinking of the grandchildren.

    I hope it all works out for ya.

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  • If I smoked weed, then I would yeah. I'd rather do that than appear as a hypocrite to my daughter. Showing kids that you're a hypocrite does a lot more damage to them than weed will. I know that when I realized my parents were hypocritical about lots of stuff, our relationship was never the same after that.
  • PearlerPearler Posts: 191
    can you ask the friend to get me a $50.00 bag please ?
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  • Saturnal wrote:
    If I smoked weed, then I would yeah. I'd rather do that than appear as a hypocrite to my daughter. Showing kids that you're a hypocrite does a lot more damage to them than weed will. I know that when I realized my parents were hypocritical about lots of stuff, our relationship was never the same after that.

    That's a good point. I found out one of my parents was hiding mj use from me when I was about 16, after years of being lectured against it. It made me more rebellious and curious about drugs in general. I have two kids and I struggle with how to deal with this when they get older.

    Later in life (mid-20's) this parent finally admitted it and pulled one out for us to share... I see it as no different than having a couple drinks while enjoying each other's company.
  • brain of cbrain of c Posts: 5,213
    is it ok for you to smoke dope with your child,niece,nephew.....if this child is under the age of 18????

    just curious....i have a friend of mine who i think is so fucking out of line that it sickens me.....

    but i am curious to what others think....

    the child in question is 17.....

    fuck no.
  • no my son is 13 and i can't see me lighting up with him at no age, maybe share a beer when he turns 18 but by then he most likely will have allready tried both by himself ,remember folks when you first tried smoking ,drinking it was most likely with friends ........
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  • QuarterToTenQuarterToTen Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 3,642
    totally irresponsible behavior to smoke dope in front of your child at any age, especially teenagers.
    parents are supposed to be role models. under no circumstances would i ever considered this to be acceptable.
    what a shame.

    i feel sorry for the kid.
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  • is it ok for you to smoke dope with your child,niece,nephew.....if this child is under the age of 18????

    just curious....i have a friend of mine who i think is so fucking out of line that it sickens me.....

    but i am curious to what others think....

    the child in question is 17.....

    I would never smoke with my child. I used to smoke with my mom when I was 18 or so and I have a friend or 2 that their parents did the same thing and they have the best relationships. I have never seen parent and son more close. But I would not smoke with my kid......well if he was 30 or so and said hey dad lets smoke a fattie and then I may. Just because its lillegal dosnt mean it wrong or bad.
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  • soulsingingsoulsinging Posts: 13,202
    pushing it on them is not cool. but if the kid's already a smoker, i see no harm in in having a few tokes with him.
  • pushing it on them is not cool. but if the kid's already a smoker, i see no harm in in having a few tokes with him.

    I agree.
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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    i can't see me lighting up with him at no age, maybe share a beer when he turns 18

    whats the difference?

    and for the record, it is a bad idea to smoke weed with your teen child

    but again, what is the difference between smoking a join or drinking a beer with them?
  • QuarterToTenQuarterToTen Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 3,642
    my2hands wrote:
    whats the difference?

    and for the record, it is a bad idea to smoke weed with your teen child

    but again, what is the difference between smoking a join or drinking a beer with them?

    because marijuana is an illegal substance. big difference.

    why anyone would ever feel the need to smoke a joint with or in front of their child i'll never know. its just plain wrong.
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  • surferdudesurferdude Posts: 2,057
    my2hands wrote:
    but again, what is the difference between smoking a join or drinking a beer with them?
    Except for the illegality of it which should be a big issue for a parent the big difference I see is that when Isit down with my kid when he's 16 and share a beer with him while camping or something that's where it'll stop. One beer.

    My kid has seen me drunk maybe twice in his life. The people I know who smoke pot quite often don't stop at one hit. Most people I know smoke to get stoned. There's a big difference between enjoying a beer or glass of wine for the flavor and drinking to get drunk.
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  • KannKann Posts: 1,146
    my2hands wrote:
    whats the difference?

    Illegality for one. And the ritual of rolling it, it's not like beer which you pull out and open, it's a more elaborate procedure.
    Also, after one joint I'd be stoned (and my kid as well I guess) which would not be the case with the beer.
    I think the major problem would be getting stoned with my kid, having a beer or two sure, getting us drunk... not till his wedding.
  • JaneNYJaneNY Posts: 4,438
    I don't believe in smoking it and I certainly wouldn't do it with my kid. I'm not going to judge other families, but that won't be happening around here. We've made the committment to keep our minds sharp and stay away from mind-altering stuff.
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  • At age 17, I don't think it's appropriate.

    A year or so later, it's up to the individual.

    edited to add: I also disagree with drinking with kids under the age of 18, for what it's worth.
  • To all those talking illegality....what lesson does it teach a kid if they find out you smoke it, which demonstrates the fact that you do not support the current laws....and you are being hypocritical by demonizing it's use to them? Should we teach them to stand up against what we see as injustice?

    Also, to say that one beer with an underage kid is ok, but a joint is not because of intoxication levels is generally incorrect.

    I'd argue that a glass of wine or one or two beers in a person that is inexperienced with alcohol (and probably has little tolerance) is as impairing as smoking an average joint between two or three people...probably with LESS damage to their bodies and brains.
    I don't have them handy at the moment, but I have posted links in the past showing that people are generally "stoned" for 20-30 minutes, then have a slight buzz for about 2-3 hours. Which I would think would be the same effect a fair sized glass of wine or a beer or two would have on a young person....
  • tybirdtybird Posts: 17,388
    JaneNY wrote:
    I don't believe in smoking it and I certainly wouldn't do it with my kid. I'm not going to judge other families, but that won't be happening around here. We've made the committment to keep our minds sharp and stay away from mind-altering stuff.
    Yeah!!!!! Somebody else on this board with some sense when it comes to weed. Never smoked........never will.
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  • soulsingingsoulsinging Posts: 13,202
    tybird wrote:
    Yeah!!!!! Somebody else on this board with some sense when it comes to weed. Never smoked........never will.

    what has that got to do with sense? are you saying that anyone who has ever taken a puff of weed is automatically totally incapable of any sensible decisions?
  • LizardLizard So Cal Posts: 12,091
    The other problem I see with that is that you are doing something illegal with your kid and saying it's OK. Then, when he wants to do something you don't want him/her to day (doesn't have to be illegal even), you have lost some of your authority and they could throw it in your face--"well you let me do this, or you did this with me", etc. etc.
    IMO.
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