Marijuana May Increase Psychosis Risk

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  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    Basic Rule of Thumb:
    If you are a psycho... don't smoke pot.
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  • deadnothingbetter
    deadnothingbetter Posts: 2,202
    Drowned Out wrote:
    no...you've seen many people with most likely pre-existing conditions that MAY have had those conditions aggravated by marijuana.
    ummm.... you sure? a lot of 'em are kids.... kids who were completely NORMAL... then they started heavily abusing marijuana to the point where their focus wasn't altogether "normal" even to the point where they became aggressive and assaultive. do you have a degree of some sort in psychosis? i mean come on dude i deal with this shit in and out... to the point where i fucken hate my job... and i also hate medications of all sorts... it gets people worse... hell, even smoking cigarettes makes people fucking annoying... i don't see why you get so defensive over stupid shit like marijuana... i oughtta go over there and give you an ol' fashion bitchslap in the face for thinking like that... j/k (i wouldn't do that)
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  • FinsburyParkCarrots
    FinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    Cosmo wrote:
    Basic Rule of Thumb:
    If you are a psycho... don't smoke pot.


    That's why they should legalise acid instead. :cool:
  • deadnothingbetter
    deadnothingbetter Posts: 2,202
    FinsburyParkCarrots wrote:
    That's why they should legalise acid instead. :cool:
    acid's even worse....
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  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    deadnothingbetter wrote:
    acid's even worse....

    Have you tried it?
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  • FinsburyParkCarrots
    FinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    deadnothingbetter wrote:
    acid's even worse....

    http://www.essaydepot.com/essayme/1055/index.php

    Just someone's college essay, but more enlightening than a newspaper article...
  • deadnothingbetter
    deadnothingbetter Posts: 2,202
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    Have you tried it?
    nope... i'm glad i haven't....

    my sister's best-friend got married to some punk who would take acid constantly... she had to break-up with him for that... now he's in an asylum with his brain fried... he doesn't even know who his kid is.
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  • FinsburyParkCarrots
    FinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychedelic_psychotherapy
  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    deadnothingbetter wrote:
    nope... i'm glad i haven't....

    my sister's best-friend got married to some punk who would take acid constantly... she had to break-up with him for that... now he's in an asylum with his brain fried... he doesn't even know who his kid is.

    Too much of anything can be bad.
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  • deadnothingbetter
    deadnothingbetter Posts: 2,202
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    Too much of anything can be bad.
    exactly my point... you think there's not enough fuckin dumb-nuts in the world who are not going to take marijuana at a consistent basis?
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  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    deadnothingbetter wrote:
    exactly my point... you think there's not enough fuckin dumb-nuts in the world who are not going to take marijuana at a consistent basis?


    I don't care what they do...it's their life.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

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  • thelowlightargentina
    thelowlightargentina Posts: 592
    All that I have to say is that nobody in this universe can tell you what to do with your body and mind and soul...

    and please, Legalize it as soon as possible :D
    ...can´t wear my mask, your first my last...
  • Drowned Out
    Drowned Out Posts: 6,056
    deadnothingbetter wrote:
    ummm.... you sure? a lot of 'em are kids.... kids who were completely NORMAL... then they started heavily abusing marijuana to the point where their focus wasn't altogether "normal" even to the point where they became aggressive and assaultive. do you have a degree of some sort in psychosis? i mean come on dude i deal with this shit in and out... to the point where i fucken hate my job... and i also hate medications of all sorts... it gets people worse... hell, even smoking cigarettes makes people fucking annoying... i don't see why you get so defensive over stupid shit like marijuana... i oughtta go over there and give you an ol' fashion bitchslap in the face for thinking like that... j/k (i wouldn't do that)

    who's gettin defensive here? :p...sounds like someone needs to smoke a joint.

    Maybe there is a link to psychosis...maybe not. Who cares? It's a fuckin smokescreen....there are a million things in the world that are bad for us and perfectly legal, even encouraged by the government...so why do we give a shit about this particular plant? Look into it....and stop attending your pharma-sponsored lunch n learns :) Seriously tho, and no offense...but your heart doesn't sound into helping those people...that's unfortunate. Maybe you're having a bad day?
    Why can it not be that they were predisposed to psychosis and maybe weed triggered it. Who's to say it wouldn't have been triggered by a million other things if it hadn't been weed.

    I get defensive because people's lives get ruined over a plant everyday, and a lot of people either don't care, are ill informed, or just plain ignorant...and because the pressure your government puts on mine to keep it illegal pretty much forces our government to go against the will of the people... The war on drugs is just another way for corrupt government agencies to line their pockets, in order to continue fucking up our world...on your dime, and your neighbours life. That's a big deal to me. The piece at the top of the page is classic drug war propaganda.
  • norm
    norm Posts: 31,146
    http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/search/print_518872.html
  • gue_barium
    gue_barium Posts: 5,515
    Drowned Out wrote:
    who's gettin defensive here? :p...sounds like someone needs to smoke a joint.

    Maybe there is a link to psychosis...maybe not. Who cares? It's a fuckin smokescreen....there are a million things in the world that are bad for us and perfectly legal, even encouraged by the government...so why do we give a shit about this particular plant? Look into it....and stop attending your pharma-sponsored lunch n learns :) Seriously tho, and no offense...but your heart doesn't sound into helping those people...that's unfortunate. Maybe you're having a bad day?
    Why can it not be that they were predisposed to psychosis and maybe weed triggered it. Who's to say it wouldn't have been triggered by a million other things if it hadn't been weed.

    I get defensive because people's lives get ruined over a plant everyday, and a lot of people either don't care, are ill informed, or just plain ignorant...and because the pressure your government puts on mine to keep it illegal pretty much forces our government to go against the will of the people... The war on drugs is just another way for corrupt government agencies to line their pockets, in order to continue fucking up our world...on your dime, and your neighbours life. That's a big deal to me. The piece at the top of the page is classic drug war propaganda.

    I wonder what those patients are asked at the place that poster works at. I'm sure there's a questionaire that asks which drugs the user has used, etc. Of course marijuana is going to be high on that list. The truth about drug abuse in America, though, is that prescription drugs are by far and away the most abused drugs in this country. So, by an addict's rationale, wouldn't it be "safer" to protect his/her drug of choice from being banned altogether over one that is already deemed illegal? And wouldn't that rationale be reflected in an admission questionaire?
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  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    deadnothingbetter wrote:
    exactly my point... you think there's not enough fuckin dumb-nuts in the world who are not going to take marijuana at a consistent basis?
    It's better for them than scarfing down McDonalds on a consistent basis.................way better!
  • deadnothingbetter
    deadnothingbetter Posts: 2,202
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    I don't care what they do...it's their life.
    well, i guess i can put that mindset on as well... i mean, it's like these social workers should too... like say, ahh, who cares if they're depressed and want to kill themselves... i mean it's their life. right?
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  • deadnothingbetter
    deadnothingbetter Posts: 2,202
    Drowned Out wrote:
    who's gettin defensive here? :p...sounds like someone needs to smoke a joint.

    Maybe there is a link to psychosis...maybe not. Who cares? It's a fuckin smokescreen....there are a million things in the world that are bad for us and perfectly legal, even encouraged by the government...so why do we give a shit about this particular plant? Look into it....and stop attending your pharma-sponsored lunch n learns :) Seriously tho, and no offense...but your heart doesn't sound into helping those people...that's unfortunate. Maybe you're having a bad day?
    Why can it not be that they were predisposed to psychosis and maybe weed triggered it. Who's to say it wouldn't have been triggered by a million other things if it hadn't been weed.

    I get defensive because people's lives get ruined over a plant everyday, and a lot of people either don't care, are ill informed, or just plain ignorant...and because the pressure your government puts on mine to keep it illegal pretty much forces our government to go against the will of the people... The war on drugs is just another way for corrupt government agencies to line their pockets, in order to continue fucking up our world...on your dime, and your neighbours life. That's a big deal to me. The piece at the top of the page is classic drug war propaganda.
    look, i don't care about the political aspect of it... frankly i don't give a sheeeit!... to be honest yes, my heart sometimes isn't into helping these people. you wanna know why? because these people go in and out at a consistent basis.... they go and get detoxed and then when they leave and the doctor's say they're good to go, then all of a sudden, bam! they're back again... and here we go on this merry-go-round. it's almost like they're unsolveable... don't get me wrong... i treat these people with the utmost respect... after all, they're still humans. but frankly i get annoyed everytime another person comes in for admission... these are illnesses that are perfectly solveable... and completely avoidable. leave all the drugs out and voila... less mental health and detox patients!

    trust me... i'm passionate about these kinds of things.... i'm not getting defensive here.... on the contrary, i'm getting offensive... especially to you.... not necessarily offend you per se... but try and snap some sense into you.... who gives a fuck about marijuana????? why should that even be an issue... .... seriously though... there are other issues we could talk about, but this one? legalize marijuana? oh, yes, legalize marijuana... for what reason? the way i see it... there's enough crap going around... the only reason why one would argue to legalize it is because they're always taking it to the point that they don't wanna go through the hassle of being caught... so they argue why it should be legalized.... and they make such arguments like, "oh, it's actually good for your health as opposed to popular beliefs" i don't consider it a good form of logic... if that makes sense.

    ok... you got other reasons... political reasons... "the war on drugs is a way for corrupt government agencies to line their pockets"... ok, i'm with you here... i guess. but still.... how does that make it a need to legalize marijuana?

    the bottom line i'm trying to make is... as a person who works at a mh/cd hospital there are many psychosis that are linked to marijuana... many of them. it's not a "maybe yes, maybe no"... it's a fact. many of them. and why ask the question why it matters? ... so that we won't get patients going to behavioral health hospitals like today... ironically enough... we had a 14 yo patient who was in for behavioral health... parents said this started when she began to smoke marijuana... see, why risk that? we got enough with alcohol... and even with cigarettes... oh and also like the other person said McDonalds. although mcdonalds is more a physical hazard than it is a mental. mainly, the way i see it people just want to legalize weed just because... really. just because they like it. that's basically it. they love to smoke weed and they like it... so they want to legalize it

    oh come on.. you're telling me that once they legalize marijuana for ill patients the "unill" patients are gonna stop abusing it?
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  • deadnothingbetter
    deadnothingbetter Posts: 2,202
    PJPOWER wrote:
    It's better for them than scarfing down McDonalds on a consistent basis.................way better!
    well... i don't encourage mcdonalds either.
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  • deadnothingbetter
    deadnothingbetter Posts: 2,202
    gue_barium wrote:
    I wonder what those patients are asked at the place that poster works at. I'm sure there's a questionaire that asks which drugs the user has used, etc. Of course marijuana is going to be high on that list. The truth about drug abuse in America, though, is that prescription drugs are by far and away the most abused drugs in this country. So, by an addict's rationale, wouldn't it be "safer" to protect his/her drug of choice from being banned altogether over one that is already deemed illegal? And wouldn't that rationale be reflected in an admission questionaire?
    yup, that's true... there are many patients who go just to get a fix on that xanax. i don't understand what you mean on your last question but i myself for one don't agree in any kind of drugs... lithium, opioids, etc. there's just other greater risks that i wouldn't be willing to take.

    i mean.. it's good that only a doctor can prescribe them that way people will not illegally use these drugs but some just know how to go through all the hoops to get a fix
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