Marijuana May Increase Psychosis Risk

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By MARIA CHENG
AP Medical Writer

LONDON (AP) -- Using marijuana seems to increase the chance of becoming psychotic, researchers report in an analysis of past research that reignites the issue of whether pot is dangerous.

The new review suggests that even infrequent use could raise the small but real risk of this serious mental illness by 40 percent.

Doctors have long suspected a connection and say the latest findings underline the need to highlight marijuana's long-term risks. The research, paid for by the British Health Department, is being published Friday in medical journal The Lancet.

"The available evidence now suggests that cannabis is not as harmless as many people think," said Dr. Stanley Zammit, one of the study's authors and a lecturer in the department of psychological medicine at Cardiff University.

The researchers said they couldn't prove that marijuana use itself increases the risk of psychosis, a category of several disorders with schizophrenia being the most commonly known.

There could be something else about marijuana users, "like their tendency to use other drugs or certain personality traits, that could be causing the psychoses," Zammit said.

Marijuana is the most frequently used illegal substance in many countries, including the United Kingdom and the United States. About 20 percent of young adults report using it at least once a week, according to government statistics.

Zammit and colleagues from the University of Bristol, Imperial College and Cambridge University examined 35 studies that tracked tens of thousands of people for periods ranging from one year to 27 years to examine the effect of marijuana on mental health.

They looked for psychotic illnesses as well as cognitive disorders including delusions and hallucinations, bipolar disorder, depression, anxiety, neuroses and suicidal tendencies.

They found that people who used marijuana had roughly a 40 percent higher chance of developing a psychotic disorder later in life. The overall risk remains very low.

For example, Zammit said the risk of developing schizophrenia for most people is less than 1 percent. The prevalence of schizophrenia is believed to be about five in 1,000 people. But because of the drug's wide popularity, the researchers estimate that about 800 new cases of psychosis could be prevented by reducing marijuana use.

The scientists found a more disturbing outlook for "heavy users" of pot, those who used it daily or weekly: Their risk for psychosis jumped to a range of 50 percent to 200 percent.

One doctor noted that people with a history of mental illness in their families could be at higher risk. For them, marijuana use "could unmask the underlying schizophrenia," said Dr. Deepak Cyril D'Souza, an associate professor of psychiatry at Yale University, who was not involved in the study.

Dr. Wilson Compton, a senior scientist at the National Institute on Drug Abuse in Washington, called the study persuasive.

"The strongest case is that there are consistencies across all of the studies," and that the link was seen only with psychoses - not anxiety, depression or other mental health problems, he said.

Scientists cannot rule out that pre-existing conditions could have led to both marijuana use and later psychoses, he added.

Scientists think it is biologically possible that marijuana could cause psychoses because it interrupts important neurotransmitters such as dopamine. That can interfere with the brain's communication systems.

Some experts say governments should now work to dispel the misconception that marijuana is a benign drug.

"We've reached the end of the road with these kinds of studies," said Dr. Robin Murray of King's College, who had no role in the Lancet study. "Experts are now agreed on the connection between cannabis and psychoses. What we need now is for 14-year-olds to know it."

In the U.K., the government will soon reconsider how marijuana should be classified in its hierarchy of drugs. In 2004, it was downgraded and penalties for possession were reduced. Many expect marijuana will be bumped up to a class "B" category, with offenses likely to lead to arrests or longer jail sentences.

Two of the authors of the study were invited experts on the Advisory Council on the Misuse of Drugs Cannabis Review in 2005. Several authors reported being paid to attend drug company-sponsored meetings related to marijuana, and one received consulting fees from companies that make antipsychotic medications.

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Medical Writer Marilynn Marchione in Milwaukee, Wis., contributed to this report.
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  • glasshouseglasshouse Posts: 1,762
    dude, i can vow for that article. i've smoked a couple of reefers in my life and i had some pretty scary moments along the way. this one time (at band camp) i totally lost hit after smoking the spliff.

    never again.
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  • JeanieJeanie Posts: 9,446
    Marijuana is such a threat to the major drug companies and governments one really has to wonder if we will ever get the truth when in comes to MJ psychosis. I have no doubt that it is very dangerous for some people but I also think that it has its benefits, particularly for those suffering chronic pain, and chronic illnesses. And I have to wonder if this is another bit of a beat up to attempt to clamp down on this thing that seemingly can't be controlled. And I'm not even a smoker.
    NOPE!!!

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  • macgyver06macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    dude the police are behind us...the police..slow down man....they are on is...


    SHUT UP YOUR STONED


    oh ya



    this is paranoia not psychosis.
  • glasshouse wrote:
    dude, i can vow for that article. i've smoked a couple of reefers in my life and i had some pretty scary moments along the way. this one time (at band camp) i totally lost hit after smoking the spliff.

    never again.

    Don;t smoke the weed at band camp..it's laced with drain cleaner...
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    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
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  • p.s. go organic! and don't be high all day every day..
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • Drowned OutDrowned Out Posts: 6,056
    I can only shake my head about this….it reads like the writer doesn't even believe the picture she's painting, with all the little disclaimers and pointing out the funding and background.




    Doctors have long suspected a connection and say the latest findings underline the need to highlight marijuana's long-term risks. The research, paid for by the British Health Department, is being published Friday in medical journal The Lancet.

    The researchers said they couldn't prove that marijuana use itself increases the risk of psychosis, a category of several disorders with schizophrenia being the most commonly known. There could be something else about marijuana users, "like their tendency to use other drugs or certain personality traits, that could be causing the psychoses," Zammit said.
    They looked for psychotic illnesses as well as cognitive disorders including delusions and hallucinations, bipolar disorder, depression, anxiety, neuroses and suicidal tendencies.
    They found that people who used marijuana had roughly a 40 percent higher chance of developing a psychotic disorder later in life. (so your risk increases to 1.4%, is this what they're saying?) The overall risk remains very low. One doctor noted that people with a history of mental illness in their families could be at higher risk. For them, marijuana use "could unmask the underlying schizophrenia," said Dr. Deepak Cyril D'Souza, an associate professor of psychiatry at Yale University, who was not involved in the study.

    "The strongest case is that there are consistencies across all of the studies," and that the link was seen only with psychoses - not anxiety, depression or other mental health problems, he said. (this seems to be in direct conflict with what is said in the second paragraph above )
    Scientists cannot rule out that pre-existing conditions could have led to both marijuana use and later psychoses, he added

    "We've reached the end of the road with these kinds of studies," said Dr. Robin Murray of King's College, who had no role in the Lancet study. "Experts are now agreed on the connection between cannabis and psychoses( this same article says it can't be proven! What experts are agreeing on (at least the ones picked to contribute to this article) is a hypothesis - big deal! I guess that's it, nothing was proven, but it is the definitive study, might as well pack 'er in.).

    In the U.K., the government will soon reconsider how marijuana should be classified in its hierarchy of drugs. In 2004, it was downgraded and penalties for possession were reduced. Many expect marijuana will be bumped up to a class "B" category, with offenses likely to lead to arrests or longer jail sentences.
    (ah, it's coming clearer now )

    Two of the authors of the study were invited experts on the Advisory Council on the Misuse of Drugs Cannabis Review in 2005. Several authors reported being paid to attend drug company-sponsored meetings related to marijuana, and one received consulting fees from companies that make antipsychotic medications.

    YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME! THIS IS THE MOST TRANSPARENT BULLSHIT I'VE EVER SEEN. They admit that they have no proof of any of the claims they're making….Then they interview a bunch of doctors that weren't involved so that there is no questioning the money trails….and release it right before they review classification.
  • I can only shake my head about this….it reads like the writer doesn't even believe the picture she's painting, with all the little disclaimers and pointing out the funding and background.




    Doctors have long suspected a connection and say the latest findings underline the need to highlight marijuana's long-term risks. The research, paid for by the British Health Department, is being published Friday in medical journal The Lancet.

    The researchers said they couldn't prove that marijuana use itself increases the risk of psychosis, a category of several disorders with schizophrenia being the most commonly known. There could be something else about marijuana users, "like their tendency to use other drugs or certain personality traits, that could be causing the psychoses," Zammit said.
    They looked for psychotic illnesses as well as cognitive disorders including delusions and hallucinations, bipolar disorder, depression, anxiety, neuroses and suicidal tendencies.
    They found that people who used marijuana had roughly a 40 percent higher chance of developing a psychotic disorder later in life. (so your risk increases to 1.4%, is this what they're saying?) The overall risk remains very low. One doctor noted that people with a history of mental illness in their families could be at higher risk. For them, marijuana use "could unmask the underlying schizophrenia," said Dr. Deepak Cyril D'Souza, an associate professor of psychiatry at Yale University, who was not involved in the study.

    "The strongest case is that there are consistencies across all of the studies," and that the link was seen only with psychoses - not anxiety, depression or other mental health problems, he said. (this seems to be in direct conflict with what is said in the second paragraph above )
    Scientists cannot rule out that pre-existing conditions could have led to both marijuana use and later psychoses, he added

    "We've reached the end of the road with these kinds of studies," said Dr. Robin Murray of King's College, who had no role in the Lancet study. "Experts are now agreed on the connection between cannabis and psychoses( this same article says it can't be proven! What experts are agreeing on (at least the ones picked to contribute to this article) is a hypothesis - big deal! I guess that's it, nothing was proven, but it is the definitive study, might as well pack 'er in.).

    In the U.K., the government will soon reconsider how marijuana should be classified in its hierarchy of drugs. In 2004, it was downgraded and penalties for possession were reduced. Many expect marijuana will be bumped up to a class "B" category, with offenses likely to lead to arrests or longer jail sentences.
    (ah, it's coming clearer now )

    Two of the authors of the study were invited experts on the Advisory Council on the Misuse of Drugs Cannabis Review in 2005. Several authors reported being paid to attend drug company-sponsored meetings related to marijuana, and one received consulting fees from companies that make antipsychotic medications.

    YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME! THIS IS THE MOST TRANSPARENT BULLSHIT I'VE EVER SEEN. They admit that they have no proof of any of the claims they're making….Then they interview a bunch of doctors that weren't involved so that there is no questioning the money trails….and release it right before they review classification.
    i guess that's why the article is called "marijuana MAY increase psychosis"

    i work at a mental health and chemical dependency hospital... i've seen many patients go to chemical dependency unit boarding on mental health for abusing marijuana
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  • Drowned OutDrowned Out Posts: 6,056
    i guess that's why the article is called "marijuana MAY cause psychosis"

    So it's a complete non-story, right? I don't get the point of reporting this at all unless they're trying to push an agenda.
    i work at a mental health and chemical dependency hospital... i've seen many patients go to chemical dependency unit boarding on mental health because of marijuana

    no...you've seen many people with most likely pre-existing conditions that MAY have had those conditions aggravated by marijuana.
  • It's like saying razor blades cause suicide to all who own them.

    For some people yes.

    Some just get clean shave...(the giggles, provocative concentrated thought, and the munchies) :p
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  • 1970RR1970RR Posts: 281
    I can only shake my head about this….it reads like the writer doesn't even believe the picture she's painting, with all the little disclaimers and pointing out the funding and background.




    Doctors have long suspected a connection and say the latest findings underline the need to highlight marijuana's long-term risks. The research, paid for by the British Health Department, is being published Friday in medical journal The Lancet.

    The researchers said they couldn't prove that marijuana use itself increases the risk of psychosis, a category of several disorders with schizophrenia being the most commonly known. There could be something else about marijuana users, "like their tendency to use other drugs or certain personality traits, that could be causing the psychoses," Zammit said.
    They looked for psychotic illnesses as well as cognitive disorders including delusions and hallucinations, bipolar disorder, depression, anxiety, neuroses and suicidal tendencies.
    They found that people who used marijuana had roughly a 40 percent higher chance of developing a psychotic disorder later in life. (so your risk increases to 1.4%, is this what they're saying?) The overall risk remains very low. One doctor noted that people with a history of mental illness in their families could be at higher risk. For them, marijuana use "could unmask the underlying schizophrenia," said Dr. Deepak Cyril D'Souza, an associate professor of psychiatry at Yale University, who was not involved in the study.

    "The strongest case is that there are consistencies across all of the studies," and that the link was seen only with psychoses - not anxiety, depression or other mental health problems, he said. (this seems to be in direct conflict with what is said in the second paragraph above )
    Scientists cannot rule out that pre-existing conditions could have led to both marijuana use and later psychoses, he added

    "We've reached the end of the road with these kinds of studies," said Dr. Robin Murray of King's College, who had no role in the Lancet study. "Experts are now agreed on the connection between cannabis and psychoses( this same article says it can't be proven! What experts are agreeing on (at least the ones picked to contribute to this article) is a hypothesis - big deal! I guess that's it, nothing was proven, but it is the definitive study, might as well pack 'er in.).

    In the U.K., the government will soon reconsider how marijuana should be classified in its hierarchy of drugs. In 2004, it was downgraded and penalties for possession were reduced. Many expect marijuana will be bumped up to a class "B" category, with offenses likely to lead to arrests or longer jail sentences.
    (ah, it's coming clearer now )

    Two of the authors of the study were invited experts on the Advisory Council on the Misuse of Drugs Cannabis Review in 2005. Several authors reported being paid to attend drug company-sponsored meetings related to marijuana, and one received consulting fees from companies that make antipsychotic medications.

    YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME! THIS IS THE MOST TRANSPARENT BULLSHIT I'VE EVER SEEN. They admit that they have no proof of any of the claims they're making….Then they interview a bunch of doctors that weren't involved so that there is no questioning the money trails….and release it right before they review classification.
    You nailed it.
    I hear the next study will be how marijuana causes mexicans & blacks to rape white women.
  • bit torrent or rent "the history of marijuana" a.k.a "Grass" with Woody Harrelson.

    It will show you what the real story is.

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0214730/
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • Drowned OutDrowned Out Posts: 6,056
    1970RR wrote:
    You nailed it.
    I hear the next study will be how marijuana causes mexicans & blacks to rape white women.
    reefer madness 2007!!!!
  • reefer madness 2007!!!!

    LOL I just watched that again the other night. :p
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  • gue_bariumgue_barium Posts: 5,515
    LOL I just watched that again the other night. :p

    Great flick! Especially when, you know, you're under the influence.

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  • 1970RR1970RR Posts: 281
    LOL I just watched that again the other night. :p
    FYI: http://www.reefermadnessmuseum.org/
  • PJPOWERPJPOWER In Yo Face Posts: 6,499
    They forgot to mention that it may also delay the onset of Alzheimers better than any drug on the market today :) Did any of you happen to see "In Pot We Trust" on HBO a couple weeks ago? Anti-marijuana laws are so fking lame!

    http://pubs.acs.org/cgi-bin/sample.cgi/mpohbp/2006/3/i06/html/mp060066m.html
  • Drowned OutDrowned Out Posts: 6,056
    LOL I just watched that again the other night. :p
    I have still never watched this movie…surprising considering my history with the subject matter :D I've only seen it on the shelf once...
    I've read a ton about it tho….
    Heeeeeyyyy….bit torrent, duh! Between that and the Zinn movie you posted (thanks btw), looks like I have my lame Friday evening planned!
  • I have still never watched this movie…surprising considering my history with the subject matter :D I've only seen it on the shelf once...
    I've read a ton about it tho….
    Heeeeeyyyy….bit torrent, duh! Between that and the Zinn movie you posted (thanks btw), looks like I have my lame Friday evening planned!

    Hey, I like spending my friday nights doing lame things like this so it's not all bad. :) Have you ever watched 'You Can't Be Neutral on a Moving Train' by Zinn? It's excellent!

    I've got some PJ dvds someone sent me to entertain myself with tonight. ;)
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • Drowned OutDrowned Out Posts: 6,056
    Hey, I like spending my friday nights doing lame things like this so it's not all bad. :) Have you ever watched 'You Can't Be Neutral on a Moving Train' by Zinn? It's excellent!

    I've got some PJ dvds someone sent me to entertain myself with tonight. ;)

    No I haven't seen that either...I forgot he made a doc out of it (it WAS released well after the book, right?). bit torrent is going hard tonight!

    ....I did just d/l the audiobook (ya ya :p) for A People's History tho, once it's on disc I'll be listening to that in the car for a while.
  • No I haven't seen that either...I forgot he made a doc out of it (it WAS released well after the book, right?). bit torrent is going hard tonight!

    ....I did just d/l the audiobook (ya ya :p) for A People's History tho, once it's on disc I'll be listening to that in the car for a while.

    I don't know when it was released...I caught it on sundance one night by chance.

    Enjoy your Zinn. :D
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  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    Basic Rule of Thumb:
    If you are a psycho... don't smoke pot.
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  • no...you've seen many people with most likely pre-existing conditions that MAY have had those conditions aggravated by marijuana.
    ummm.... you sure? a lot of 'em are kids.... kids who were completely NORMAL... then they started heavily abusing marijuana to the point where their focus wasn't altogether "normal" even to the point where they became aggressive and assaultive. do you have a degree of some sort in psychosis? i mean come on dude i deal with this shit in and out... to the point where i fucken hate my job... and i also hate medications of all sorts... it gets people worse... hell, even smoking cigarettes makes people fucking annoying... i don't see why you get so defensive over stupid shit like marijuana... i oughtta go over there and give you an ol' fashion bitchslap in the face for thinking like that... j/k (i wouldn't do that)
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  • FinsburyParkCarrotsFinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    Cosmo wrote:
    Basic Rule of Thumb:
    If you are a psycho... don't smoke pot.


    That's why they should legalise acid instead. :cool:
  • That's why they should legalise acid instead. :cool:
    acid's even worse....
    This isn't the land of opportunity, it's the land of competition.
  • acid's even worse....

    Have you tried it?
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • FinsburyParkCarrotsFinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    acid's even worse....

    http://www.essaydepot.com/essayme/1055/index.php

    Just someone's college essay, but more enlightening than a newspaper article...
  • Have you tried it?
    nope... i'm glad i haven't....

    my sister's best-friend got married to some punk who would take acid constantly... she had to break-up with him for that... now he's in an asylum with his brain fried... he doesn't even know who his kid is.
    This isn't the land of opportunity, it's the land of competition.
  • nope... i'm glad i haven't....

    my sister's best-friend got married to some punk who would take acid constantly... she had to break-up with him for that... now he's in an asylum with his brain fried... he doesn't even know who his kid is.

    Too much of anything can be bad.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • Too much of anything can be bad.
    exactly my point... you think there's not enough fuckin dumb-nuts in the world who are not going to take marijuana at a consistent basis?
    This isn't the land of opportunity, it's the land of competition.
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