Stock Market Rally?

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  • inmytree
    inmytree Posts: 4,741
    farfromglorified wrote:

    Let me ask a very simple question:

    If the purpose of such manipulation is to get Republicans elected which in turn equals more profit, why not just manipulate more profit????????

    power trumps profit, perhaps?
  • Abuskedti
    Abuskedti Posts: 1,917
    farfromglorified wrote:
    Except that the races end, you know?



    How cloak and dagger of you.

    Let me ask a very simple question:

    If the purpose of such manipulation is to get Republicans elected which in turn equals more profit, why not just manipulate more profit????????

    na your not paying attention.. its just a short term goal - that benefits the bulk of buisnesses.. to the point where a surge may be profitable..

    again - a trend - not a conspiracy

    gure manipulation is usually for profit .. they try to influence it down before buying and up before selling.. people are arrested for that often - and more often investigated - very difficult to prove

    If it serve the majority of businesses for the GOP to maintain control - and an upward trend in the dow has an effect on the voting public - especially the way the GOP will spin in the upcomming weeks - why not wonder if there are not a large number of influencial businessmen -making overly optomistic bullish statements and even bullish purchaces in an attempt to lead the lemmings...

    much like a campaign contribution - perhaps more effective - and this a very important election
  • SundaySilence
    SundaySilence Posts: 537
    Maybe the stock market is going up in anticipation of a democrat victory. Historically the stock market does better under democrat presidents.
  • farfromglorified
    farfromglorified Posts: 5,700
    inmytree wrote:
    power trumps profit, perhaps?

    Perhaps.........or perhaps it's a reverse ploy by the Democrats. See, they're manipulating the market so that Republicans get elected and they won't have to deal with the Iraq mess.......or perhaps the Skull & Bones is just having some fun.........or perhaps the tooth fairy ran out of nickles and needs her Halliburton shares to go up some more..........
  • farfromglorified
    farfromglorified Posts: 5,700
    Abuskedti wrote:
    na your not paying attention.. its just a short term goal - that benefits the bulk of buisnesses.. to the point where a surge may be profitable..

    again - a trend - not a conspiracy

    gure manipulation is usually for profit .. they try to influence it down before buying and up before selling.. people are arrested for that often - and more often investigated - very difficult to prove

    If it serve the majority of businesses for the GOP to maintain control - and an upward trend in the dow has an effect on the voting public - especially the way the GOP will spin in the upcomming weeks - why not wonder if there are not a large number of influencial businessmen -making overly optomistic bullish statements and even bullish purchaces in an attempt to lead the lemmings...

    much like a campaign contribution - perhaps more effective - and this a very important election

    So in other words it makes "long term" sense to artificially raise the stock market in order to get Republicans elected tomorrow? So what happens when it all falls apart the next day?

    Not that this matters, but can you cite one specific instance of one specific stock purchase using to manipulate the market for Republicans?
  • inmytree
    inmytree Posts: 4,741
    farfromglorified wrote:
    Perhaps.........or perhaps it's a reverse ploy by the Democrats. See, they're manipulating the market so that Republicans get elected and they won't have to deal with the Iraq mess.......or perhaps the Skull & Bones is just having some fun.........or perhaps the tooth fairy ran out of nickles and needs her Halliburton shares to go up some more..........

    um....:confused:
  • JOEJOEJOE
    JOEJOEJOE Posts: 10,829
    I think the corrput big business cronies (both democrtats and republicans....mostly republicans :) ) have learned to skim the assets of the companies they control, so they don't need to manipulate stock prices anymore.

    If you can't change the price of the stock, loot the assets instead, and leave the smaller stock investor/pension plans to foot the bill!
  • JOEJOEJOE
    JOEJOEJOE Posts: 10,829
    farfromglorified wrote:
    So in other words it makes "long term" sense to artificially raise the stock market in order to get Republicans elected tomorrow? So what happens when it all falls apart the next day?

    Not that this matters, but can you cite one specific instance of one specific stock purchase using to manipulate the market for Republicans?

    If it falls apart the next day, they still have 2 years to fix it!
  • Abuskedti
    Abuskedti Posts: 1,917
    farfromglorified wrote:
    Except that the races end, you know?



    How cloak and dagger of you.

    Let me ask a very simple question:

    If the purpose of such manipulation is to get Republicans elected which in turn equals more profit, why not just manipulate more profit????????


    Silly, the races never end.. they have Number 1 every night! even in the winter .. they just watch them on television
  • farfromglorified
    farfromglorified Posts: 5,700
    JOEJOEJOE wrote:
    If it falls apart the next day, they still have 2 years to fix it!

    But if they can just manipulate the markets, what does it matter?
  • Abuskedti
    Abuskedti Posts: 1,917
    Maybe the market is excited about this news:

    Ford posts worst loss in 14 years
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Abuskedti wrote:
    Maybe the market is excited about this news:

    Ford posts worst loss in 14 years


    stock market has know about this for a long time now. its already priced into the stock. then again, you knowing nothing about that
  • farfromglorified
    farfromglorified Posts: 5,700
    Abuskedti wrote:
    Maybe the market is excited about this news:

    Ford posts worst loss in 14 years

    I think the market is used to that news. But who cares? I'm sure Ford can just manipulate themselves a few billion and this will take care of that.
  • SundaySilence
    SundaySilence Posts: 537
    farfromglorified wrote:
    I think the market is used to that news. But who cares? I'm sure Ford can just manipulate themselves a few billion and this will take care of that.

    Thats what Enron did.
  • farfromglorified
    farfromglorified Posts: 5,700
    SundaySilence wrote:
    Thats what Enron did.

    First, Enron did not mainpulate the entire stock market. Secondly, since their mainpulations worked out so well, I'm quite sure everyone will follow suit :rolleyes:
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    SundaySilence wrote:
    Thats what Enron did.


    and news laws were written because of that.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarbanes-Oxley_Act


    does anyone here work for a public company? accounting tricks are nearly impossible now.
  • SundaySilence
    SundaySilence Posts: 537
    farfromglorified wrote:
    First, Enron did not mainpulate the entire stock market. Secondly, since their mainpulations worked out so well, I'm quite sure everyone will follow suit :rolleyes:

    How is the Lay family doing these days?
  • farfromglorified
    farfromglorified Posts: 5,700
    SundaySilence wrote:
    How is the Lay family doing these days?

    Ummm....one of them is dead the rest are relatively broke.
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    SundaySilence wrote:
    How is the Lay family doing these days?


    their lives have been ruined since the collapse of Enron. or didnt you know that?
  • farfromglorified
    farfromglorified Posts: 5,700
    jlew24asu wrote:
    accounting tricks are nearly impossible now.

    Famous last words....

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