Stock Market Rally?
Abuskedti
Posts: 1,917
The republicans are in Jeopardy of losing control of congress
Big Buisness wants them to maintain control
Strong stock market is helps the GOP
Can big business conspire to make the market rise?
with overly optimistic projections
Large investments
recommendations
etc.?
Big Buisness wants them to maintain control
Strong stock market is helps the GOP
Can big business conspire to make the market rise?
with overly optimistic projections
Large investments
recommendations
etc.?
Post edited by Unknown User on
0
Comments
we have a winner ladies and gentleman. the most ignorant thread of the century.
the answer is no.
Well supported response.. thank you
its called common sense.
Please explain why this is such an ignorant question. Dumb the language down if possible for us retards. Thanks.
Freedom is Slavery
Ignorance is Strength
thats nearly impossible.
If you dont understand how many forces move the market then you should stick to your day job and let financial advisors invest for you.
a group of guys who like republicans cant sit in a room and make the market go up for 5 years in a row now.
its about as intelligent as thinking Bush stopped hurricanes from happening this year becuase he didnt want to have another Katrina to deal with. not in a election year, that would be political suicide
www.myspace.com/jensvad
Not a group of republicans at all
the entire business community stands to profit from GOP policies.. Their actions are interpreted by the investing public... surly as a group - even without actual conspiracy can effect confidence and projections
a nice rally going in election week is surely no beyond their ability.
The stock market is also impacted by the consumer. Corporations alone can not make the market rise as it has in the past 5 years. And for the sake of the arguement even if corporate America joined forces to help the GOP how would they be able to control the public's spending habits.
http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/061023/wall_street.html?.v=18
no need to do that considering they own the electronic voting machines
hmmm i thought the stock market was doing great during the clinton era.......must be that GOP helping clinton!
i think he/she is referring to the records set recently,...
~Ron Burgundy
thats what kills me and why I have such a hard time even justifing an answer to these people. they are so blinded by hatred for one party they cant think rationally.
well the record highs in the nasdaq and S & P back then, blew away the recent gains in the DOW, today. the dow is 30 stocks and more of an indicator of the economy.
now I would almost be willing to listen to these conspriracy theories back during clinton years becuase those gains were completely artifical and had many outside forces involved. those stocks rose to unbelievable highs for no reason at all.
today the dow is on a steady rise due to good earnings and a strong economy
I am not talking about the last 4 years.. I am talking about today and the last few months..
The last 4 years only seem wonderful if you forget the massive crash that preceeded it.
okay. i wasn't taking sides. i don't know anything about the stock market. like, anything at all. i haven't taken economics since sophomore year of HS and i am a biology major. i just know that records were set recently and i figure he/she deserved some support since they were bascially getting flamed.
~Ron Burgundy
just read. this will explain todays rise.
http://money.cnn.com/2006/10/23/markets/markets_1130/index.htm?postversion=2006102311
~Ron Burgundy
deserve support? why. how can you support such incoherent claims? unless you believe them yourself.
I'm glad you admit to knowing nothing about the stock market. you arent the only one around here.
luckily I do and can add some commen sense to this discussion.
lol.. CNN and the rest of the media "explain" the reasons for changes several times a day... much like they explain the reason for invading Iraq - or the approval ratings for president - or why school shootings are up.
CNN should change their name to the Oprah Winfrey show.. because it is not news and surly is not a reliable reference for the workings of the stock market - save perhaps for the number of people it wrongly influences.
I will say it one more time.. I don't see this as a republican conspiracy
I see the business community with a steak... they routinely invest very large sums of money on political campaigns.. perhaps to win the round in the last seconds, the community sees a stock market rally as a good investment.
Surly Mobile for example is well aware that many things have short term impact on the dow... things people say - paterns of respected investors...
It can be done.. Its only short term.. and can be very effecting on the America public - with the collective understanding of politics at about the 5th grade level.
so you hate CNN I got it. but that report is stating FACTS. hard to argue with that. just keep the blinders on buddy.
Don't Get Excited. It's Just the Dow.
By Allan Sloan
Newsweek
Oct. 16, 2006 issue - Have you recovered yet from celebrating the Dow's reaching record highs last week? Hope you didn't go too wild. Hangovers can be so nasty—though it sure was fun watching folks on the New York Stock Exchange floor whoop it up as the Dow finally eclipsed its highs set in early 2000. But in my customary role as party pooper, I'll let you in on a little secret: even though the Dow has broken the high that it set on Jan. 14, 2000, the market is nowhere near its all-time high. That's because the 30-stock Dow Jones industrial average isn't the same thing as the U.S. stock market. Not even close. Although the Dow notched three straight records and ended the week close to 12,000, the real market indicators are still way below their highs. One of them, Standard & Poor's 500 Index—which includes 470 more stocks than the Dow does—ended the week 12 percent below its peak, reached on March 24, 2000. The Dow Jones Wilshire 5000, which includes all U.S. stocks and peaked the same day as the S&P, was down 9 percent.
The Dow's stocks represent less than a third of the value of the S&P stocks and less than a quarter of the Wilshire's. So why's everyone so Dow-obsessed? I think it's because the Dow, created in 1896, was well entrenched in the public psyche by the time that more useful market measures like the S&P and the Wilshire emerged in 1957 and 1974, respectively. The Dow's kept its overwhelming mind share, its shortcomings notwithstanding.
The S&P is the benchmark that professional investors use to measure their performance—but no one seems emotionally attached to it. When the Dow hit five digits in 1999, people wore DOW 10,000 caps. Have you ever seen an S&P 1,500 cap? Or seen people rooting for the S&P to set a record? I haven't. I've written a zillion articles about the Dow's reaching some benchmark, but don't think I've ever written about the S&P's doing that. The S&P is important, but unloved. The Dow's not all that important, but the public loves it. Go figure.
Even Roger Ibbotson, founder of Ibbotson Associates, which uses S&P statistics to provide data on the market's long-term performance, says he answers in terms of the Dow when someone asks him how the market's doing. "It's a brand name," he told me. "When you want tissues, you ask for Kleenex. When people ask about the market, they want to know about the Dow."
This defies logic, because the S&P is a far-better indicator of how investors are faring. The S&P, you see, is based on companies' stock-market values while the Dow is based on their stock prices. The S&P values a dollar change in the price of GE's 10.4 billion shares more than 18 times as much as a dollar change in GM's 566 million shares. That's logical, because a dollar change in GE's price creates (or vaporizes) vastly more shareholder wealth than a buck change in GM's. By contrast, the Dow counts a dollar swing in GE or GM stock exactly the same: 8.004 points. That's because the Dow is calculated by dividing the combined share prices of its 30 stocks by a wonderfully precise number: currently, it's 0.12493117. (I'd explain how this "Dow divisor" works, but it's really complicated; let's deal with it another day.) The Dow's just so random. Had each Dow stock finished two cents lower on Tuesday, the Dow wouldn't have set a record. A 100-point move sounds like a lot—but it's less than 42 cents for each Dow stock. Finally, you can argue that the Dow hasn't really exceeded its all-time high: it posted a midday high of 11,908 on Jan. 14, 2000, and didn't top that last week.
But enough ragging on the Dow. Now, let's see what we can learn from watching it. For starters, the Dow shows that there's no sure thing when it comes to investing. During the generation-long bull market that started in 1982 and ended in 2000, millions of people were lulled into believing that owning stocks of big companies was a sure way to wealth. But it wasn't. If you owned the Dow since it peaked in 2000, you've gotten essentially no capital gains. But if you'd owned "value" issues or shares of mid-size or small-size companies, you did extremely well.
Things are going well these days for large-capitalization stocks—the Dow's up 11 percent for the year. That's double its 80-year average of 5.5 percent, as calculated by Ibbotson Associates. But it's not a great year for another market measure, the NASDAQ, which is up only 4 percent and is 54 percent below its 2000 high. It has to more than double just to get back to where it was almost seven years ago.
Be my guest, celebrate the Dow. Just don't confuse it with the market. They're different things.
URL: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15173073/site/newsweek/
Why would they want it to go down.. The Dow.. as explained earlier is both a fraction of the actual market and that most quoted and influential with the general public..
a quick rally easily constructed to save some business friendly politicians...
the desired effect would be to influence some voters...
i can explain it in one sentence...
Wall Street has nothing to do with Main Street. Once average joe understands that we will all be a little better off.
by the way jlew24asu, how does it feel to be a war profiteer?
The freedom you enjoy to say dumbass things like that............................was the PROFIT of past WARS.
How do you feel being a war profiteer?
www.myspace.com/jensvad
There are many homless that thought they understood the stock market...
good luck with your confidence and knowledge...
zigfreed and Roy understood tigers too
I have done VERY well investing in the market. I actually have done well for others too. my confidence and knowledge has made me a rich man.