Is that the republican plan? massive spending and tax cuts?
with a very strong economy, current spending is not an issue. it can be paid for. although I'm all for cuts in spending, much of which bush is trying to do. raising taxes is not the answer.
There shouldn't be any difference in sentencing for anal or vaginal rape. I don't understand the 'need' for different terms and I disagree with the term "sodomy". As "sodomy" is a deragatory reference to anal intercourse.
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Sodomy and rape are two different things, hence the different names. That is not to say that being sexually assaulted via sodomy is not horrific in any way.
Just for the record, if I were raped in the 'traditional' sense, it would be different that being sodomized.
i don't see forcible sodomy and rape as 2 different things.
women can also be forcibly sodomised and it is still rape. what's the difference?
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i don't see forcible sodomy and rape as 2 different things.
women can also be forcibly sodomised and it is still rape. what's the difference?
They are two different words, connoting distinct differences. For example sodomy is anal or oral copulation or copulation with an animal, whereas the word rape has a wider scope including all sexual assaults, and for example vaginal penetration.
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Not 100% sure here, but I believe if a man rapes a woman, and forces sodomy, that also is a charge in addition to rape. I don't think that "forced sodomy" is a male victim only charge. Not to mention that forced sodomy can wreak havoc on a person's bowels and the rest of their plumbing. I don't think the different names is to add weight to one act over the other, but one does have a different effect than the other. I could be wrong tho. I've never taken it up the arse, and hope I never do!!
Not 100% sure here, but I believe if a man rapes a woman, and forces sodomy, that also is a charge in addition to rape. I don't think that "forced sodomy" is a male victim only charge. I could be wrong tho.
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They are two different words, connoting distinct differences. For example sodomy is anal or oral copulation or copulation with an animal, whereas the word rape has a wider scope including all sexual assaults, and for example vaginal penetration.
yeah i know it all comes down to semantics. but any sex that isn't consensual regardless of what orifice is being penetrated is rape to me.
and let's face it, there are some people who can't even understand how raping a guy is possible.
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Not 100% sure here, but I believe if a man rapes a woman, and forces sodomy, that also is a charge in addition to rape. I don't think that "forced sodomy" is a male victim only charge. Not to mention that forced sodomy can wreak havoc on a person's bowels and the rest of their plumbing. I don't think the different names is to add weight to one act over the other, but one does have a different effect than the other.
I agree. I've been orally sodomized as a child, and have always referred to it as oral sodomy. I've also been raped on different occasion and refer to it as such.
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yeah i know it all comes down to semantics. but any sex that isn't consensual regardless of what orifice is being penetrated is rape to me.
and let's face it, there are some people who can't even understand how raping a guy is possible.
I agree that non-consensual sex is rape under all situations. To me I see that there are distinct differences between the forms of rape under the rape umbrella and when distinction can be added, I find it helpful.
The word rape can also refer to the sexual assault umbrella, or it can specifically refer to forced vaginal penetration in itself, as well.
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Can we please use a different term besides "Sodomy" like "Intercourse" or "Copulation"?
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Why, are you an assman, and offended by the word sodomy? Sodomy is what it is. There's a word used to describe the act, and sodomy it is.
-sodomy:
noun
intercourse via the anus, committed by a man with a man or woman
It's just a tad deragatory
Etymology: Middle English, from Anglo-French sodomie, from Late Latin Sodoma Sodom; from the homosexual proclivities of the men of the city in Genesis 19:1-11
And unecissary. There are at least 2 other words that serve the purpose just fine.
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It's just a tad deragatory
Etymology: Middle English, from Anglo-French sodomie, from Late Latin Sodoma Sodom; from the homosexual proclivities of the men of the city in Genesis 19:1-11
And unecissary. There are at least 2 other words that serve the purpose just fine.
Would you prefer ass-fucking over sodomy as the "proper" word choice??
Can we please use a different term besides "Sodomy" like "Intercourse" or "Copulation"?
See, my thing is that "intercourse" and copulation can imply "coital", which is about the vagina. (dictionary.com uses the term "esp" and in especially, in this regard) Sodomy has distinct connotations that other words do not carry. Therefore 'intercourse' and 'copulation' don't work just fine for me and my purposes.
Granted forced anal or oral penetration would work, technically.
"The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr
See, my thing is that "intercourse" and copulation can imply "coital", which is about the vagina. (dictionary.com uses the term "esp" and in especially, in this regard) Sodomy has distinct connotations that other words do not carry. Therefore 'intercourse' and 'copulation' don't work just fine for me and my purposes.
Granted forced anal or oral penetration would work, technically.
coital implies vaginal? coital (sexual intercourse, esp. between a man and a woman) relates to intercourse which is "sexual relations or a sexual coupling, esp. coitus." so, really, both relate to a sexual coupling...which would happen to encompass sodomy...which further breaks out as anal or oral sodomy. coital, intercourse, and sodomy are all general terms, which can be further qualified.
i wonder, though, why "sodomy" is so objectionable, above.
Would you prefer ass-fucking over sodomy as the "proper" word choice??
Actually I would, but that's not the only alternative.
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coital implies vaginal? coital (sexual intercourse, esp. between a man and a woman) relates to intercourse which is "sexual relations or a sexual coupling, esp. coitus." so, really, both relate to a sexual coupling...which would happen to encompass sodomy...which further breaks out as anal or oral sodomy. coital, intercourse, and sodomy are all general terms, which can be further qualified.
i wonder, though, why "sodomy" is so objectionable, above.
co·i·tus
n. Sexual union between a male and a female involving insertion of the penis into the vagina.
sexual intercourse
–noun
genital contact, esp. the insertion of the penis into the vagina followed by orgasm; coitus; copulation.
"The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr
coital implies vaginal? coital (sexual intercourse, esp. between a man and a woman) relates to intercourse which is "sexual relations or a sexual coupling, esp. coitus." so, really, both relate to a sexual coupling...which would happen to encompass sodomy...which further breaks out as anal or oral sodomy. coital, intercourse, and sodomy are all general terms, which can be further qualified.
i wonder, though, why "sodomy" is so objectionable, above.
Problem is, Sodomy refers to a biblical reference to sexual deviance from the doctrine of religion. To me, it implies a religious perspective on anal and oral intercourse. It ultimately implies that the acts are morally wrong. If you feel that the acts are not morally wrong and "Sodomy" is just a word. Then why not use "Intercourse" or "Copulation"? I'm not a big word Nazi, but it's not acceptable for me to use offensive language.
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co·i·tus
n. Sexual union between a male and a female involving insertion of the penis into the vagina.
sexual intercourse
–noun
genital contact, esp. the insertion of the penis into the vagina followed by orgasm; coitus; copulation.
Stop using dictionary.com
from Merriam Webster http://www.m-w.com
Defintion of Intercourse
3 : physical sexual contact between individuals that involves the genitalia of at least one person <anal intercourse> <oral intercourse>; especially : SEXUAL INTERCOURSE 1 <heterosexual intercourse>
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Problem is, Sodomy refers to a biblical reference to sexual deviance from the doctrine of religion. To me, it implies a religious perspective on anal and oral intercourse. It ultimately implies that the acts are morally wrong. If you feel that the acts are not morally wrong and "Sodomy" is just a word. Then why not use "Intercourse" or "Copulation"? I'm not a big word Nazi, but it's not acceptable for me to use offensive language.
i knew this would have something to do with religion with you ahnimus.
and we all know it is 'an abomination for a man to lay with another man as he does woman.' but we've travelled so far since biblical times.
and besides aren't you atheist. so who cares what has religious connotations? ignore them like i do.
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from Merriam Webster http://www.m-w.com
Defintion of Intercourse
3 : physical sexual contact between individuals that involves the genitalia of at least one person <anal intercourse> <oral intercourse>; especially : SEXUAL INTERCOURSE 1 <heterosexual intercourse>
Oxford English Dictionary: sexual intercourse
• noun sexual contact between individuals involving penetration, especially the insertion of a man’s erect penis into a woman’s vagina culminating in orgasm and the ejaculation of semen.
"The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr
I plan to keep using the word "sodomy" as it has purposes other words do not. I don't like to use the word "penetration" in regards to forced sex as it is more graphic.
"The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr
• noun sexual contact between individuals involving penetration, especially the insertion of a man’s erect penis into a woman’s vagina culminating in orgasm and the ejaculation of semen.
So, "Intercourse" means "Sexual Intercourse" and you just ignore the other definitions because you want to use the word "Sodomy". Why?
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
Problem is, Sodomy refers to a biblical reference to sexual deviance from the doctrine of religion. To me, it implies a religious perspective on anal and oral intercourse. It ultimately implies that the acts are morally wrong. If you feel that the acts are not morally wrong and "Sodomy" is just a word. Then why not use "Intercourse" or "Copulation"? I'm not a big word Nazi, but it's not acceptable for me to use offensive language.
It is my understanding that sodomy refers to sexual acts that are not of the norm. Granted, words like "abnormal" can certainly have negative connotations that can affect those who normally partake of such activities. And yet, not being of the norm is actually accurate.
Deviating from the norm may have social judgments tied to it, but when something deviates from the norm, it does deviate from the norm. To me the problem is that society shuns what is not normal--the problem is not the word itself.
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i don't see forcible sodomy and rape as 2 different things.
women can also be forcibly sodomised and it is still rape. what's the difference?
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yeah i know it all comes down to semantics. but any sex that isn't consensual regardless of what orifice is being penetrated is rape to me.
and let's face it, there are some people who can't even understand how raping a guy is possible.
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I agree that non-consensual sex is rape under all situations. To me I see that there are distinct differences between the forms of rape under the rape umbrella and when distinction can be added, I find it helpful.
The word rape can also refer to the sexual assault umbrella, or it can specifically refer to forced vaginal penetration in itself, as well.
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Why, are you an assman, and offended by the word sodomy?
-sodomy:
noun
intercourse via the anus, committed by a man with a man or woman
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It's just a tad deragatory
Etymology: Middle English, from Anglo-French sodomie, from Late Latin Sodoma Sodom; from the homosexual proclivities of the men of the city in Genesis 19:1-11
And unecissary. There are at least 2 other words that serve the purpose just fine.
Would you prefer ass-fucking over sodomy as the "proper" word choice??
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Granted forced anal or oral penetration would work, technically.
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i vote for sodomy.
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coital implies vaginal? coital (sexual intercourse, esp. between a man and a woman) relates to intercourse which is "sexual relations or a sexual coupling, esp. coitus." so, really, both relate to a sexual coupling...which would happen to encompass sodomy...which further breaks out as anal or oral sodomy. coital, intercourse, and sodomy are all general terms, which can be further qualified.
i wonder, though, why "sodomy" is so objectionable, above.
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Actually I would, but that's not the only alternative.
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n. Sexual union between a male and a female involving insertion of the penis into the vagina.
sexual intercourse
–noun
genital contact, esp. the insertion of the penis into the vagina followed by orgasm; coitus; copulation.
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Problem is, Sodomy refers to a biblical reference to sexual deviance from the doctrine of religion. To me, it implies a religious perspective on anal and oral intercourse. It ultimately implies that the acts are morally wrong. If you feel that the acts are not morally wrong and "Sodomy" is just a word. Then why not use "Intercourse" or "Copulation"? I'm not a big word Nazi, but it's not acceptable for me to use offensive language.
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from Merriam Webster http://www.m-w.com
Defintion of Intercourse
3 : physical sexual contact between individuals that involves the genitalia of at least one person <anal intercourse> <oral intercourse>; especially : SEXUAL INTERCOURSE 1 <heterosexual intercourse>
i knew this would have something to do with religion with you ahnimus.
and we all know it is 'an abomination for a man to lay with another man as he does woman.' but we've travelled so far since biblical times.
and besides aren't you atheist. so who cares what has religious connotations? ignore them like i do.
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• noun sexual contact between individuals involving penetration, especially the insertion of a man’s erect penis into a woman’s vagina culminating in orgasm and the ejaculation of semen.
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sexual intercourse--heterosexual intercourse involving penetration of the vagina by the penis : coitus
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So, "Intercourse" means "Sexual Intercourse" and you just ignore the other definitions because you want to use the word "Sodomy". Why?
Deviating from the norm may have social judgments tied to it, but when something deviates from the norm, it does deviate from the norm. To me the problem is that society shuns what is not normal--the problem is not the word itself.
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