74 Dead In Baghdad

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  • AbuskedtiAbuskedti Posts: 1,917
    miller8966 wrote:
    Not even plausible. American people will form their own police force and re-instate their own court system in a matter of weeks.

    Also there would be no suicide bombers...catholics and protestants only fight in ireland.

    Gang violence would be at a mininum

    Iraq has done exactly that in Sadr city.. which is why President Bush needs a surge to put it down

    They have done it repeatedly - a big one in Fallujah
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 30,173
    i've read all 3 pgs of post in regards to this horrible situation i for one don't have an answer as to how to stop the killing ,but nobody else does either but i would think that if the american soldiers were to be pulled the situation would get calmer no ?? .........
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    i've read all 3 pgs of post in regards to this horrible situation i for one don't have an answer as to how to stop the killing ,but nobody else does either but i would think that if the american soldiers were to be pulled the situation would get calmer no ?? .........
    in a perfect world sure. but I dont think so. I think the killing would dramatically increase. much like it did when we pulled out of veitinam. I think 2-3 million Cambodians died. but we wont know until it happens. I really dont see the soldiers being there for more then 2 years.
  • AbuskedtiAbuskedti Posts: 1,917
    i've read all 3 pgs of post in regards to this horrible situation i for one don't have an answer as to how to stop the killing ,but nobody else does either but i would think that if the american soldiers were to be pulled the situation would get calmer no ?? .........

    That is exactly what I think. Some Iraqi groups would gain control if we left. and they would establish Iraq again. Whenever they try - we attack them calling them insurgents - and perpetuate the horror.
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 30,173
    jlew24asu wrote:
    in a perfect world sure. but I dont think so. I think the killing would dramatically increase. much like it did when we pulled out of veitinam. I think 2-3 million Cambodians died. but we wont know until it happens. I really dont see the soldiers being there for more then 2 years.
    i just think that all of the IRAQ population just despises the OCUPATION so much that no matter what the coalition does they just wan't to be left alone to fix this mess and it's really just the american's they wan't out but who knows this is just my observation .......
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    i just think that all of the IRAQ population just despises the OCUPATION so much that no matter what the coalition does they just wan't to be left alone to fix this mess and it's really just the american's they wan't out but who knows this is just my observation .......
    that certainly could be true but there are others trying to get involved besides Iraqis like Iran. they need to be stopped.
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    jlew24asu wrote:
    in a perfect world sure. but I dont think so. I think the killing would dramatically increase. much like it did when we pulled out of veitinam. I think 2-3 million Cambodians died. but we wont know until it happens. I really dont see the soldiers being there for more then 2 years.

    America pulling out of Vietnam had nothing to do with the Cambodian genocide. America's bombing of Cambodia did result in the break-up of the country and gave rise to the Khmer Rouge however.
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Byrnzie wrote:
    America pulling out of Vietnam had nothing to do with the Cambodian genocide. America's bombing of Cambodia did result in the break-up of the country and gave rise to the Khmer Rouge however.
    thats not what I read but i'm not expert on the matter. but of course it had to be america's fault
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    jlew24asu wrote:
    thats not what I read but i'm not expert on the matter. but of course it had to be america's fault

    Of course! Everything is America's fault. I mean, for example, i banged my toe this morning. That was America's fault because the shoes i was wearing came from America. A classic example right there!

    The fact is, that when we're discussing world affairs, and more specifically, state terrorism since the 1940's, then America usually has a hand in it, whether directly, or indirectly. There are few exceptions. It's just indicative of the corrupting power of power.
    Since America sold it's soul to the devil on On August 6, 1945, it's place in world affairs has unfortunately been one of violence and mendacity.
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Of course! Everything is America's fault. I mean, for example, i banged my toe this morning. That was America's fault because the shoes i was wearing came from America. A classic example right there!
    BASTARDS!!!
  • inmytreeinmytree Posts: 4,741
    miller8966 wrote:
    No it wouldnt; we would have that shit figured out within days.

    yeah, just we did in New Orleans....

    http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/141901/new_orleans_murder_rate_skyrockets.html

    http://www.dailyherald.com/business/story.asp?id=280137


    we got that shit figured out right quick...
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    inmytree wrote:
    thats a tad different. the city was almost completely destroyed by a natural disaster
  • AbuskedtiAbuskedti Posts: 1,917
    jlew24asu wrote:
    thats a tad different. the city was almost completely destroyed by a natural disaster

    yes, in a country fully capable of providing security... capable but not so willing. They get a measure of security..

    If there were none.. all hell would break loose...
  • miller8966miller8966 Posts: 1,450
    Abuskedti wrote:
    yes, in a country fully capable of providing security... capable but not so willing. They get a measure of security..

    If there were none.. all hell would break loose...

    People expected the government to step up which it didnt. In your scenario there is no government, hence people would have to step up.
    America...the greatest Country in the world.
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Abuskedti wrote:
    yes, in a country fully capable of providing security... capable but not so willing. They get a measure of security..

    If there were none.. all hell would break loose...
    yea but in a matter of weeks and months "normal" life slowly has come back. football games are being played, contruction is booming. are things perfect down there? no.

    are there suicide bombers blowing up government offices? are rebel militias in control of any area of the city? have foreigners gained control of anything?
  • inmytreeinmytree Posts: 4,741
    jlew24asu wrote:
    thats a tad different. the city was almost completely destroyed by a natural disaster

    why does the method of destruction matter...?

    miller said we'd have nebraska's shit figured out (based on Abuskedti example), yet we can't figure out New Orleans...
  • AbuskedtiAbuskedti Posts: 1,917
    jlew24asu wrote:
    yea but in a matter of weeks and months "normal" life slowly has come back. football games are being played, contruction is booming. are things perfect down there? no.

    are there suicide bombers blowing up government offices? are rebel militias in control of any area of the city? have foreigners gained control of anything?

    Yes, that is because the hurricane did not take out the entire military or the local police for that matter...

    silly
  • Abuskedti wrote:
    Bombs were not ripping through Bagdad daily before we decided the world would be better off if we invaded.

    yeah, thanks for the solution to the problem.
    I'll dig a tunnel
    from my window to yours
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Abuskedti wrote:
    Yes, that is because the hurricane did not take out the entire military or the local police for that matter...

    silly


    yes it did
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    inmytree wrote:
    why does the method of destruction matter...?

    miller said we'd have nebraska's shit figured out (based on Abuskedti example), yet we can't figure out New Orleans...

    we cant? I was just there 2 months ago. I stayed downtown. things aren't perfect but cant not be compared to baghdad.
  • AbuskedtiAbuskedti Posts: 1,917
    jlew24asu wrote:
    we cant? I was just there 2 months ago. I stayed downtown. things aren't perfect but cant not be compared to baghdad.

    You are missing the point - there is lotza security in New Orleans - police - government - Military intervention

    but it does show the tendancy - and how bad it can get with just a very small lapse in security

    Iraq has been completly without for 4 years....
  • inmytreeinmytree Posts: 4,741
    Abuskedti wrote:
    You are missing the point - there is lotza security in New Orleans - police - government - Military intervention

    but it does show the tendancy - and how bad it can get with just a very small lapse in security

    Iraq has been completly without for 4 years....

    ding ding ding..!!! we have a winner...
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    inmytree wrote:
    ding ding ding..!!! we have a winner...
    before you are done circle jerking with Abus. I must point out the american troops are the ones assisting with that security. again, not perfect, but somewhat effective. there is a functional government and the Iraqis are being trained to defend their country.
  • inmytreeinmytree Posts: 4,741
    jlew24asu wrote:
    before you are done circle jerking with Abus. I must point out the american troops are the ones assisting with that security. again, not perfect, but somewhat effective. there is a functional government and the Iraqis are being trained to defend their country.

    ............................
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    Byrnzie wrote:
    ... I mean, for example, i banged my toe this morning. That was America's fault because the shoes i was wearing came from America. A classic example right there!
    ...
    See... I ain't buying that.
    We all know shoes aren't Made in America... nothing is Made in America these days... well, except Big Macs and Methamphetamines.
    ...
    Oh, and missile guidence systems and weapons delivery systems.
    Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
    Hail, Hail!!!
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Cosmo wrote:
    See... I ain't buying that.
    We all know shoes aren't Made in America...

    your right. they are designed and created by smart minds in america. we let the cheap labor manufacture them
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    jlew24asu wrote:
    your right. they are designed and created by smart minds in america. we let the cheap labor manufacture them
    ...
    So, he was wrong... they were actually Made in China. China is responsible for everything.
    Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
    Hail, Hail!!!
  • miller8966miller8966 Posts: 1,450
    Cosmo wrote:
    ...
    So, he was wrong... they were actually Made in China. China is responsible for everything.

    Actually canada..because you provide us the fuel to ship our weapons to defend the beautiful country of israel...thanx Canada!
    America...the greatest Country in the world.
  • I'll take the blame. I'm a bald, white, Christian male.
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  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    hailhailkc wrote:
    I'll take the blame. I'm a bald, white, Christian male.
    bastard
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