"This weather isn't normal"

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edited December 2006 in A Moving Train
I'm not complaining, but we might have to celebrate Christmas without snow... never happened in my short life, so far...

'This weather isn't normal'
Mercury hits 10C. Balmy days make December a walk in the park

KATE LUNAU, The Gazette
Published: Monday, December 18, 2006
Ten degrees Celsius - again.

That was the temperature recorded at 1 p.m. yesterday at Pierre Elliott Trudeau International Airport - about 13 degrees above normal for this time of year.

Environment Canada meteorologists were poring over data yesterday to determine if the temperature in Montreal had, at some point, topped 10.5C - the record for a Dec. 17, which was set in 1984.

Environment Canada meteorologist Rene Heroux expected to have an answer by today.

On Thursday and Friday, two records were broken when the temperature reached 10C and 11.8C, respectively, he said.

"It is unusual," Heroux said. "Since the beginning of December, we've only had four or five days with temperatures below freezing."

And that has been just fine for shoppers.

On Ste. Catherine St. yesterday, many bag-toting pedestrians were happy with weather conditions more suited to Easter than Christmas.

"It's more fun shopping when it's warm out," said Christmas shopper Caroline Lacroix, 21.

Carlos Calvet, who operates a jewellery kiosk in front of Place Montreal Trust, said the warm weather has helped his business.

"But I'm more worried than happy about it," Calvet added. "This weather isn't normal."

With his shirt sleeves rolled up to his elbows as he stood outside, 22-year-old Concordia University student Nathan Oliver said it's been difficult for him to muster a festive spirit this year.

"You can't drink wassail, you can't drink hot cocoa; it's just too warm out for all that."

Frank Leclare took advantage of yesterday's weather by spending time outside with his family. Leclare, 39, could be seen yesterday morning skating around the rink on Mount Royal near Beaver Lake, pushing his one-year-old son in a stroller. The rink's ice is cooled by refrigeration tubes under its surface.

"The ice is actually not bad at all," Leclare said. "It's not too wet. I haven't fallen yet."

Both Environment Canada and the Weather Network are predicting a high of 4C today. Temperatures should be back to their seasonal normal tomorrow, Heroux said, when Environment Canada is calling for a high of minus 2C. The Weather Network is calling for a high of minus 1C tomorrow, with a few flurries.

klunau@thegazette.canwest.com

© The Gazette (Montreal) 2006
"L'homme est né libre, et partout il est dans les fers"
-Jean-Jacques Rousseau
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  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    Tell me about it. It's a week from Christmas and it's 60 degress where I live and the lowest it will get all week is 50 degrees.
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  • CollinCollin Posts: 4,931
    Where I live, somewhere in Europe, it was way too hot as well, I think the temperatures broke all records...

    It really sucks, I want it to be cold!
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  • hippiemomhippiemom Posts: 3,326
    I'm horribly conflicted about the whole thing. I know global warming is bad, but I'm enjoying this so much :o
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  • we shouldn't even need global warming to compell us enough to change,...
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  • qtegirlqtegirl Posts: 321
    Who said global warming was bad? people are shopping more!

    YAY for business and capitalism!


    Disclaimer: I don' know if this weather is being caused by global warming, but I think it's terrible that the focus of the article is not the weather itself, but how the weather is affecting holiday shopping.
  • hippiemom wrote:
    I'm horribly conflicted about the whole thing. I know global warming is bad, but I'm enjoying this so much :o

    Well, i agree it's kind of nice, but if this weather become the "normal", then there will be much more problems, economics and environmental. Plus i usually like to take those holiday break to play outside, snowboard, outside hockey, just skating on a pond, right now people are fishing on those pond, and there's only a handful of ski station who can operate in these conditions. So it's nice now, but i hope it will come to an end soon...

    edit: i also like snow a lot more than rain, and under these conditions, precipitations are all rain...
    "L'homme est né libre, et partout il est dans les fers"
    -Jean-Jacques Rousseau
  • onelongsongonelongsong Posts: 3,517
    it's snowing here in the southwest deserts.
  • qtegirl wrote:
    Who said global warming was bad? people are shopping more!

    YAY for business and capitalism!


    Disclaimer: I don' know if this weather is being caused by global warming, but I think it's terrible that the focus of the article is not the weather itself, but how the weather is affecting holiday shopping.

    :)

    true, it's the Montreal Gazette, don't expect much from them... i could have post some better article but they're all in french :)
    "L'homme est né libre, et partout il est dans les fers"
    -Jean-Jacques Rousseau
  • CollinCollin Posts: 4,931
    It might be fun for some people but I truly hate it. Summer is almost unbearable as it is, now winter is going to be hotter...
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  • JeanwahJeanwah Posts: 6,363
    I miss having snow for Christmas!!!
  • qtegirlqtegirl Posts: 321
    Well, I moved from Northeastern Pennsylvani to Southeast Texas just so I WOULDN'T have snow in the winter.

    And I'm loving it so far!
  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    It rarely snows here before Christmas, but I don't ever remember putting up my Christmas lights while wearing shorts and a long sleeve t-shirt. I was really looking forward to some good snow fall totals here in the Northeast so my son and I could hit the slopes.
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  • chopitdownchopitdown Posts: 2,222
    it's 75 in central VA today :) turn on the AC if global warming is getting too much for you
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  • jeffbrjeffbr Posts: 7,177
    So now we're taking a pocket of unseasonably warm weather somewhere and using it as a sign?

    Screw historical trends!

    BTW, it is fucking cold here in Seattle. And with over a quarter of a million people still without power around here we're looking for a little warming trend right about now.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,573
    i hate weather patterns like these we are in december i wan't frigid weather when it's summer i wan't it baking hot fuck 50's in december ........
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  • Ms. HaikuMs. Haiku Posts: 7,265
    It's really warm near DC, too. At first I think it's global warming, and part of me still does, then I try to find trends . . . for instance the article referenced hot temperatures in 1984. It's probably still a part of global warming, but I'm trying to figure out why this year. The summer was very dry that's for sure. I remember it raining much more in other summers. That may have nothing to do with it. I love meteorology! I plan on reading some books on it this year.

    I want snow, too. I can run outside now, though. I'm definitely conflicted :D
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  • polarispolaris Posts: 3,527
    jeffbr wrote:
    So now we're taking a pocket of unseasonably warm weather somewhere and using it as a sign?

    Screw historical trends!

    BTW, it is fucking cold here in Seattle. And with over a quarter of a million people still without power around here we're looking for a little warming trend right about now.

    if any region is gonna start waking up to climate change - it would be the pacific northwest ... huge snowstorms, followed by huge rainstorms and now windstorms ...

    global warming ie climate change means more volatility in the climate not necessarily just warming ... more extreme weather events and fluctuations ... the overall trend is definitely warmer ...
  • DerrickDerrick Posts: 475
    I live in Kitchener-Waterloo, Ontario (West of Toronto) and I, for one, enjoy the lack of snow. I hate our winters that start in October and last til June. My family would move but we have way too many family ties in the area.

    (VIGOROUSLY KNOCKING ON WOOD TO KEEP THIS NICE WEATHER GOING)
  • jeffbrjeffbr Posts: 7,177
    polaris wrote:
    if any region is gonna start waking up to climate change - it would be the pacific northwest ... huge snowstorms, followed by huge rainstorms and now windstorms ...

    global warming ie climate change means more volatility in the climate not necessarily just warming ... more extreme weather events and fluctuations ... the overall trend is definitely warmer ...

    That trend is a constant.

    I was just commenting that it is funny when a single weather event occurs somewhere in the world, we extrapolate "global warming" from that single event.

    The northwest just got hit by a huge storm. But the storm was reported as the biggeest in a decade. That says that a decade ago we had an event, and a decade later another event. Just like the Katrina hurricane season was supposed to usher in even more hurricanes the following year. How was the hurricane season this year? So little coverage about it. I'm guessing it wasn't quite the huge season the doomsayers were predicting.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • i am a big fan of global warming......

    hopefully Chicago turns into Maui in the next few years........
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  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    Global warming or not I'm not complain about the warm weather. For one it's saving me on my heating bill.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    Yeah, pretty crazy weather. I live in northwest Texas and it was in the 70s yesterday and starting tonight they are forcasting freezing rain and snow through Thursday.........then a 2 day break........then more snow. It's starting to look like we're going to have a white Christmas.
  • onelongsongonelongsong Posts: 3,517
    polaris wrote:
    if any region is gonna start waking up to climate change - it would be the pacific northwest ... huge snowstorms, followed by huge rainstorms and now windstorms ...

    global warming ie climate change means more volatility in the climate not necessarily just warming ... more extreme weather events and fluctuations ... the overall trend is definitely warmer ...

    the whole idea about global warming is that people don't; or will not understand it. it's snowing in the desert so people are assured that global warming doesn't exist. the only thing global warming has to do with temperatures in regions is the weather changes it causes. for example; in 2 days it will be tee shirt weather here and the snow will melt and water the desert. my pastures will green up and i'll have to feed less hay. someone in the northeast is really diggin the warm weather and life is good.
    but no one is discussing the problem this has caused. this snow needs to be on the mountains to the north to provide water in the spring and summer. it's needed to replenish the aquifer we've drawn from.
    global warming changes weather patterns but no one aknowledges the real damage being done.
  • NMyTreeNMyTree Posts: 2,374
    While I believe we as a species need to start taking better care and measures for our environment (air, water, soil); this planet has always been in a state of change. This has been happening since day one.

    It's the natural cycle of this planet, and I assume of every planet.
  • polaris wrote:
    if any region is gonna start waking up to climate change - it would be the pacific northwest ... huge snowstorms, followed by huge rainstorms and now windstorms ...

    global warming ie climate change means more volatility in the climate not necessarily just warming ... more extreme weather events and fluctuations ... the overall trend is definitely warmer ...

    Not really temperatures in Seattle have been just about average for this time of year. Yes, we have had a little more rain, and it was really windy last week, but that isn't unusual for this time of year. Now if it was raining here and the mountains were getting rain instead of snow, then it might be a little more suspect, but the Cascades are on pace to have another great snowpact.
  • onelongsongonelongsong Posts: 3,517
    NMyTree wrote:
    While I believe we as a species need to start taking better care and measures for our environment (air, water, soil); this planet has always been in a state of change. This has been happening since day one.

    It's the natural cycle of this planet, and I assume of every planet.

    nature works in cycles. a seed sprouts and grows; it forms a flower to reproduce and dies. it then goes back to the earth to decompose and become fertilizer for the next generation.
    we've inturrupted the cycle of nature and the earth will cleanse itself. it always does. the damage we have caused has in turn caused the planet to cleanse itself in a more drastic manner. the earth will now wipe the slate clean and start over.
  • jeffbr wrote:
    That trend is a constant.

    I was just commenting that it is funny when a single weather event occurs somewhere in the world, we extrapolate "global warming" from that single event.

    The northwest just got hit by a huge storm. But the storm was reported as the biggeest in a decade. That says that a decade ago we had an event, and a decade later another event. Just like the Katrina hurricane season was supposed to usher in even more hurricanes the following year. How was the hurricane season this year? So little coverage about it. I'm guessing it wasn't quite the huge season the doomsayers were predicting.

    I have not even mention global warming, i know next year at the same time, it could be minus 14 with 40 inch of snow. But as of last week, it was warmer in Montreal than in Bombay... antartica is melting... last year ultra violent hurricanes seasons... massive wave of heat this summer... current violent weather in the northwest ... i think weather is derailed, but that's just me, you can still use that deaf speech all you want, i don't really care...
    "L'homme est né libre, et partout il est dans les fers"
    -Jean-Jacques Rousseau
  • chopitdownchopitdown Posts: 2,222
    you can still use that deaf speech all you want, i don't really care...

    it's called "sign language" ;)
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  • NMyTree wrote:
    While I believe we as a species need to start taking better care and measures for our environment (air, water, soil); this planet has always been in a state of change. This has been happening since day one.

    It's the natural cycle of this planet, and I assume of every planet.

    At least to all those who say it's normal, or a normal cycle, you can't argue that we should reduce MASSIVELY our pollution productions as humans, we're really the parasite on this planet...
    "L'homme est né libre, et partout il est dans les fers"
    -Jean-Jacques Rousseau
  • jeffbrjeffbr Posts: 7,177
    chopitdown wrote:
    it's called "sign language" ;)

    Thanks, I didn't get the deaf speech reference.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
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