they want a cease fire now huh? really? hmmm... I believe that! SO THEY CAN REARM!
I guess the wonderful hezbollah leader forgot the last u.n. worthless resolution that required hezbollah disarm.
oh, but he wants a cease fire.
Hezbollah leader don't care about the UN, they're criminals, even if they don't care about the UN, they said they'd agree to a no condition cease fire (just last Condi visit, you probably forgot), the political branch said they would agree to a cease fire, not a cease fire under Israel condition, Lebanon GOVERNMENT (not Hezbollah) called for an immediate humanitarian cease fire without condition, Israel refuse, so what are you saying exactly i'm not following you...
About disarming Hezbollah, Lebanon will need help (as it is mentioned in the 1559, they didn't get it), now they're being destroyed, it just can't get in my mind how you can still think that those Israeli's hit over civillians will stop the Hezbollah in the future, i mean... nevermind...
"L'homme est né libre, et partout il est dans les fers"
-Jean-Jacques Rousseau
Hezbollah leader don't care about the UN, they're criminals, even if they don't care about the UN, they said they'd agree to a no condition cease fire (just last Condi visit, you probably forgot), the political branch said they would agree to a cease fire, not a cease fire under Israel condition, Lebanon GOVERNMENT (not Hezbollah) called for an immediate humanitarian cease fire without condition, Israel refuse, so what are you saying exactly i'm not following you...
About disarming Hezbollah, Lebanon will need help (as it is mentioned in the 1559, they didn't get it), now they're being destroyed, it just can't get in my mind how you can still think that those Israeli's hit over civillians will stop the Hezbollah in the future, i mean... nevermind...
:rolleyes:
ohh yeah, i completely forgot about her visit (are you kidding me?)..
the same lebanon govt. that praised hezbollah today for their sacrafices. Yeah, real legit govt.
ohh yeah, i completely forgot about her visit (are you kidding me?)..
the same lebanon govt. that praised hezbollah today for their sacrafices. Yeah, real legit govt.
anyway, i understand, Israel are the greatness who have done nothing wrong, now it's UN fault if they're killed, it's civillians fault if they're killed, and Lebanon govt. is not legit... wow!
"L'homme est né libre, et partout il est dans les fers"
-Jean-Jacques Rousseau
anyway, i understand, Israel are the greatness who have done nothing wrong, now it's UN fault if they're killed, it's civillians fault if they're killed, and Lebanon govt. is not legit... wow!
where did you find that?? dear, your anger is causing you to be dillusional!
But, in an interview with a few Hizbullah fighters, they stated (and made it perfectly clear) they would NOT agree to a cease-fire, even if Israel stopped their attacks.
That statement was followed by one Hizbullah fighter plainly stating that there will be consequences for the Political Branch agreeing to a cease-fire.
The figher clearly stated Hizbullah fighters will eliminate those of the Political Branch, who they (the Hizbullah fighters) feel betrayed them, by agreeing to a cease-fire. Which means they will attempt (and probably succeed) in killing those of the Political Branch who agreed to a cease-fire.
But, in an interview with a few Hizbullah fighters, they stated (and made it perfectly clear) they would NOT agree to a cease-fire, even if Israel stopped their attacks.
That statement was followed by one Hizbullah fighter plainly stating that there will be consequences for the Political Branch agreeing to a cease-fire.
The figher clearly stated Hizbullah fighters will eliminate those of the Political Branch, who they (the Hizbullah fighters) feel betrayed them, by agreeing to a cease-fire. Which means they will attempt (and probably succeed) in killing those of the Political Branch who agreed to a cease-fire.
A ceasefire would ignite a civil war within Hizbollah?
But, in an interview with a few Hizbullah fighters, they stated (and made it perfectly clear) they would NOT agree to a cease-fire, even if Israel stopped their attacks.
That statement was followed by one Hizbullah fighter plainly stating that there will be consequences for the Political Branch agreeing to a cease-fire.
The figher clearly stated Hizbullah fighters will eliminate those of the Political Branch, who they (the Hizbullah fighters) feel betrayed them, by agreeing to a cease-fire. Which means they will attempt (and probably succeed) in killing those of the Political Branch who agreed to a cease-fire.
could you please try to expalin this a little better to grandma. he/she doesn't even believe something like this is true. Afterall, hezbollah so desperately wants and end to this. :rolleyes:
where did you find that?? dear, your anger is causing you to be dillusional!
oh maybe but i doubt it is the case now, i get that from all the post on this message board, some are going like "they received leaflets" when talking about civillians being bombed.
some are going like "the same lebanon govt. that praised hezbollah today for their sacrafices. Yeah, real legit govt" when talking about Lebanon govt. demand about a cease fire
some are going like "why does UN observers were even there" and that one even come from our beloved Canadian Prime Minister. So am i dillusional?
"L'homme est né libre, et partout il est dans les fers"
-Jean-Jacques Rousseau
There is no rationalizing with most on here with regards to the U.N. once again, it's all Americas fault. These people have an agenda and it's very clear.
Rationalizing? Is that how you describe your attempts over the past couple of weeks to justify the Israeli slaughter of 750 Labanese civilians?
But, in an interview with a few Hizbullah fighters, they stated (and made it perfectly clear) they would NOT agree to a cease-fire, even if Israel stopped their attacks.
That statement was followed by one Hizbullah fighter plainly stating that there will be consequences for the Political Branch agreeing to a cease-fire.
The figher clearly stated Hizbullah fighters will eliminate those of the Political Branch, who they (the Hizbullah fighters) feel betrayed them, by agreeing to a cease-fire. Which means they will attempt (and probably succeed) in killing those of the Political Branch who agreed to a cease-fire.
One hezbollah fighter, sorry NMytree, i don't know the opinion of every Hezbollah "fighter", but i know the officials said they'd agree, so who to believe? At least the officials agree, if they try nothing they'll get nothing... or just more bomb. Yes the civil war now is a concern to and that's why discussion plan must be set up to stop the Hezbollah, not making them stronger, but now they at least need to clean the mess done so far and evacuate civillians from the southern war zone, i just don't buy those leaflets or "hugging" thing, get them out then bomb each other to death if that's what they want.
Damn if only they'd go back to swords and horses or even to the baillonette (row front kneed down, FIRE!), those stupid greedy powerful leader pushing on a button without ever facing the consequence wouldn't have the means to kill all these innocents...
"L'homme est né libre, et partout il est dans les fers"
-Jean-Jacques Rousseau
could you please try to expalin this a little better to grandma. he/she doesn't even believe something like this is true. Afterall, hezbollah so desperately wants and end to this. :rolleyes:
it's he, and don't worry i can answer to INmytree if i want to...
"L'homme est né libre, et partout il est dans les fers"
-Jean-Jacques Rousseau
they want a cease fire now huh? really? hmmm... I believe that! SO THEY CAN REARM!
I guess the wonderful hezbollah leader forgot the last u.n. worthless resolution that required hezbollah disarm.
oh, but he wants a cease fire.
I guess you chose to forget the 60 U.N resolutions which Israel are currently in breach of? But then you've already admitted that you have no regard for international law and that you support Israeli terrorism, so it's no surprise.
Typical example of someone with nothing intelligent to contribute to the discussion. It's like dealing with children on this moving train page most of the time.
Typical example of someone with nothing intelligent to contribute to the discussion. It's like dealing with children on this moving train page most of the time.
There is no rationalizing with most on here with regards to the U.N. once again, it's all Americas fault. These people have an agenda and it's very clear.
There is no rationalizing with most on here with regards to the U.N. once again, it's all the fault of the arabs. These people have an agenda and it's very clear.
they've read one those leaflets on tv, it was more of a menace and they were all laughing at the thing, although the citizen who got a phone call (palestine) to say that their building was about to be bombed said it was a better way and no civillians were killed in that raid... mmmm. (they were happy to be alive, they just lost all they got)
"L'homme est né libre, et partout il est dans les fers"
-Jean-Jacques Rousseau
There is no rationalizing with most on here with regards to the U.N. once again, it's all the fault of the arabs. These people have an agenda and it's very clear.
My personal belief is that there are racial prejudices at work on both sides of this particular fence, so I agree ... Still, though, these racial arguments are actually getting pretty tiring, from BOTH sides.
My personal belief is that there are racial prejudices at work on both sides of this particular fence, so I agree ... Still, though, these racial arguments are actually getting pretty tiring, from BOTH sides.
it's not racial to comment on events, it's not because they're Israelis or jews, it's because of what they're doing, i couldn't care less if they're africans (threads about Rwanda and Darfur are always sinking fast on this board), Haitians (threads about Haiti are always sinking fast on this board), south americans, arabs or jews i don't care. If Hezbollah would launch a targeted missiles killing 30 (i don't know what's the count) kids, then i'd be in flame in threads condeming those acts...
"L'homme est né libre, et partout il est dans les fers"
-Jean-Jacques Rousseau
One hezbollah fighter, sorry NMytree, i don't know the opinion of every Hezbollah "fighter", but i know the officials said they'd agree, so who to believe? At least the officials agree, if they try nothing they'll get nothing... or just more bomb. Yes the civil war now is a concern to and that's why discussion plan must be set up to stop the Hezbollah, not making them stronger, but now they at least need to clean the mess done so far and evacuate civillians from the southern war zone, i just don't buy those leaflets or "hugging" thing, get them out then bomb each other to death if that's what they want.
Damn if only they'd go back to swords and horses or even to the baillonette (row front kneed down, FIRE!), those stupid greedy powerful leader pushing on a button without ever facing the consequence wouldn't have the means to kill all these innocents...
Actually, it was a few Hizbullah fighters in that interview. Certainly, we can't assume every Hizbullah fighter is thinking the same way. But their statements give us to some insight to their motives and goals.
I also get the impression, not only by the interviews, but from news reports and articles I read and watched regarding Hizbullah; that the Political Branch are no more than figureheads/puppets for the fighters on the ground. I believe they have a chain of command and they dictate what they want from the Political Branch.
Maybe I'm wrong about this, but it is the impression I have been getting.
it's not racial to comment on events, it's not because they're Israelis or jews, it's because of what they're doing, i couldn't care less if they're africans (threads about Rwanda and Darfur are always sinking fast on this board), Haitians (threads about Haiti are always sinking fast on this board), south americans, arabs or jews i don't care. If Hezbollah would launch a targeted missiles killing 30 (i don't know what's the count) kids, then i'd be in flame in threads condeming those acts...
You raise some good points, here ... I wonder WHY Darfur and other atrocities get almost no play on here, but Israel causes some of the most bitter debates?
You raise some good points, here ... I wonder WHY Darfur and other atrocities get almost no play on here, but Israel causes some of the most bitter debates?
You raise some good points, here ... I wonder WHY Darfur and other atrocities get almost no play on here, but Israel causes some of the most bitter debates?
Ignorance maybe? Do you seriously think it's racial? What you're talking about is biased, not racial. Racial would be about giving an opinion, not commenting on events.
If you were aiming at me you should clearly start now to search for Haiti or Rwanda thread, look who start them, are you racist because you haven't start a thread about Rwanda? I don't believe that's what is call racism, just ignorance or people are just not interested, which is also possible...
"L'homme est né libre, et partout il est dans les fers"
-Jean-Jacques Rousseau
Actually, it was a few Hizbullah fighters in that interview. Certainly, we can't assume every Hizbullah fighter is thinking the same way. But their statements give us to some insight to their motives and goals.
I also get the impression, not only by the interviews, but from news reports and articles I read and watched regarding Hizbullah; that the Political Branch are no more than figureheads/puppets for the fighters on the ground. I believe they have a chain of command and they dictate what they want from the Political Branch.
Maybe I'm wrong about this, but it is the impression I have been getting.
I don't know much about it, it seem like there's a chief, and he decide, political branch should dissociate themselves from the violent hezbollah...
"L'homme est né libre, et partout il est dans les fers"
-Jean-Jacques Rousseau
Ignorance maybe? Do you seriously think it's racial? What you're talking about is biased, not racial. Racial would be about giving an opinion, not commenting on events.
If you were aiming at me you should clearly start now to search for Haiti or Rwanda thread, look who start them, are you racist because you haven't start a thread about Rwanda? I don't believe that's what is call racism, just ignorance or people are just not interested, which is also possible...
No, I don't think the major focus on Israel is a racial bias, at least not an obvious one. I think some of this does creep into some people's comments about the situation, but no, I don't think Israel is a popular target because everyone on here hates Jews. I think Israel's association with AMERICA makes it a popular target on here, quite frankly. If Israel was someone else's ally, I wager you'd hear nary a peep.
Actually, it was a few Hizbullah fighters in that interview. Certainly, we can't assume every Hizbullah fighter is thinking the same way. But their statements give us to some insight to their motives and goals.
I also get the impression, not only by the interviews, but from news reports and articles I read and watched regarding Hizbullah; that the Political Branch are no more than figureheads/puppets for the fighters on the ground. I believe they have a chain of command and they dictate what they want from the Political Branch.
Maybe I'm wrong about this, but it is the impression I have been getting.
Ignorance maybe? Do you seriously think it's racial? What you're talking about is biased, not racial. Racial would be about giving an opinion, not commenting on events.
If you were aiming at me you should clearly start now to search for Haiti or Rwanda thread, look who start them, are you racist because you haven't start a thread about Rwanda? I don't believe that's what is call racism, just ignorance or people are just not interested, which is also possible...
And no, I wasn't aiming that at you. You actually strike me as one of the more balanced commentators on here lately.
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Hezbollah leader don't care about the UN, they're criminals, even if they don't care about the UN, they said they'd agree to a no condition cease fire (just last Condi visit, you probably forgot), the political branch said they would agree to a cease fire, not a cease fire under Israel condition, Lebanon GOVERNMENT (not Hezbollah) called for an immediate humanitarian cease fire without condition, Israel refuse, so what are you saying exactly i'm not following you...
About disarming Hezbollah, Lebanon will need help (as it is mentioned in the 1559, they didn't get it), now they're being destroyed, it just can't get in my mind how you can still think that those Israeli's hit over civillians will stop the Hezbollah in the future, i mean... nevermind...
-Jean-Jacques Rousseau
:rolleyes:
ohh yeah, i completely forgot about her visit (are you kidding me?)..
the same lebanon govt. that praised hezbollah today for their sacrafices. Yeah, real legit govt.
anyway, i understand, Israel are the greatness who have done nothing wrong, now it's UN fault if they're killed, it's civillians fault if they're killed, and Lebanon govt. is not legit... wow!
-Jean-Jacques Rousseau
where did you find that?? dear, your anger is causing you to be dillusional!
That statement was followed by one Hizbullah fighter plainly stating that there will be consequences for the Political Branch agreeing to a cease-fire.
The figher clearly stated Hizbullah fighters will eliminate those of the Political Branch, who they (the Hizbullah fighters) feel betrayed them, by agreeing to a cease-fire. Which means they will attempt (and probably succeed) in killing those of the Political Branch who agreed to a cease-fire.
A ceasefire would ignite a civil war within Hizbollah?
Almost sounds like a reason to have one.
could you please try to expalin this a little better to grandma. he/she doesn't even believe something like this is true. Afterall, hezbollah so desperately wants and end to this. :rolleyes:
oh maybe but i doubt it is the case now, i get that from all the post on this message board, some are going like "they received leaflets" when talking about civillians being bombed.
some are going like "the same lebanon govt. that praised hezbollah today for their sacrafices. Yeah, real legit govt" when talking about Lebanon govt. demand about a cease fire
some are going like "why does UN observers were even there" and that one even come from our beloved Canadian Prime Minister. So am i dillusional?
-Jean-Jacques Rousseau
to an extent:)
Rationalizing? Is that how you describe your attempts over the past couple of weeks to justify the Israeli slaughter of 750 Labanese civilians?
One hezbollah fighter, sorry NMytree, i don't know the opinion of every Hezbollah "fighter", but i know the officials said they'd agree, so who to believe? At least the officials agree, if they try nothing they'll get nothing... or just more bomb. Yes the civil war now is a concern to and that's why discussion plan must be set up to stop the Hezbollah, not making them stronger, but now they at least need to clean the mess done so far and evacuate civillians from the southern war zone, i just don't buy those leaflets or "hugging" thing, get them out then bomb each other to death if that's what they want.
Damn if only they'd go back to swords and horses or even to the baillonette (row front kneed down, FIRE!), those stupid greedy powerful leader pushing on a button without ever facing the consequence wouldn't have the means to kill all these innocents...
-Jean-Jacques Rousseau
it's he, and don't worry i can answer to INmytree if i want to...
-Jean-Jacques Rousseau
I guess you chose to forget the 60 U.N resolutions which Israel are currently in breach of? But then you've already admitted that you have no regard for international law and that you support Israeli terrorism, so it's no surprise.
I can see that. All I can say to that post is WOW!!!!!!!!
which post? you need to be clear when talking to a dillusional person...
-Jean-Jacques Rousseau
that is one thing I agree with you on..
Typical example of someone with nothing intelligent to contribute to the discussion. It's like dealing with children on this moving train page most of the time.
:rolleyes:
There is no rationalizing with most on here with regards to the U.N. once again, it's all the fault of the arabs. These people have an agenda and it's very clear.
-Jean-Jacques Rousseau
My personal belief is that there are racial prejudices at work on both sides of this particular fence, so I agree ... Still, though, these racial arguments are actually getting pretty tiring, from BOTH sides.
it's not racial to comment on events, it's not because they're Israelis or jews, it's because of what they're doing, i couldn't care less if they're africans (threads about Rwanda and Darfur are always sinking fast on this board), Haitians (threads about Haiti are always sinking fast on this board), south americans, arabs or jews i don't care. If Hezbollah would launch a targeted missiles killing 30 (i don't know what's the count) kids, then i'd be in flame in threads condeming those acts...
-Jean-Jacques Rousseau
Actually, it was a few Hizbullah fighters in that interview. Certainly, we can't assume every Hizbullah fighter is thinking the same way. But their statements give us to some insight to their motives and goals.
I also get the impression, not only by the interviews, but from news reports and articles I read and watched regarding Hizbullah; that the Political Branch are no more than figureheads/puppets for the fighters on the ground. I believe they have a chain of command and they dictate what they want from the Political Branch.
Maybe I'm wrong about this, but it is the impression I have been getting.
You raise some good points, here ... I wonder WHY Darfur and other atrocities get almost no play on here, but Israel causes some of the most bitter debates?
Zing!!!!!!!!!
Ignorance maybe? Do you seriously think it's racial? What you're talking about is biased, not racial. Racial would be about giving an opinion, not commenting on events.
If you were aiming at me you should clearly start now to search for Haiti or Rwanda thread, look who start them, are you racist because you haven't start a thread about Rwanda? I don't believe that's what is call racism, just ignorance or people are just not interested, which is also possible...
-Jean-Jacques Rousseau
I don't know much about it, it seem like there's a chief, and he decide, political branch should dissociate themselves from the violent hezbollah...
-Jean-Jacques Rousseau
No, I don't think the major focus on Israel is a racial bias, at least not an obvious one. I think some of this does creep into some people's comments about the situation, but no, I don't think Israel is a popular target because everyone on here hates Jews. I think Israel's association with AMERICA makes it a popular target on here, quite frankly. If Israel was someone else's ally, I wager you'd hear nary a peep.
Whoops, responded to the wrong post ...
And no, I wasn't aiming that at you. You actually strike me as one of the more balanced commentators on here lately.