Armed gunmer storm U.N. compound in Gazza

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  • Jammin909
    Jammin909 Posts: 888
    binauralsounds wrote:
    It's been all of the cable news channels. It's supposedly over now. Security forces got it under control!

    Ahh alright. I was searching online but didnt find anything, ill have to wait for the article later.
    The less you know, the more you believe.
  • chopitdown
    chopitdown Posts: 2,222
    binauralsounds wrote:
    There is no rationalizing with most on here with regards to the U.N. once again, it's all Americas fault. These people have an agenda and it's very clear.

    i know, but i feel i have to say something every once in a while... however futile it is
    make sure the fortune that you seek...is the fortune that you need
  • rebornFixer
    rebornFixer Posts: 4,901
    Byrnzie wrote:
    If the UN voted for a ceasefire and it was supported by the U.S, then of course it would happen. Israel is the 51st state of America. Britain is the 52nd.

    No it wouldn't, because some militant group would break said ceasefire, as has happened so many times in the past.

    Sorry, I must agree with the "UN is ineffectual" side on this one. Maybe if the UN wasn't simply used by Middle Eastern nations as an organized means to harass Israel, the latter and its American ally would take it a little more seriously. It runs both ways, as usual.
  • thankyougrandma
    thankyougrandma Posts: 1,182
    reborncareerist wrote:
    No it wouldn't, because some militant group would break said ceasefire, as has happened so many times in the past.

    Sorry, I must agree with the "UN is ineffectual" side on this one. Maybe if the UN wasn't simply used by Middle Eastern nations as an organized means to harass Israel, the latter and its American ally would take it a little more seriously. It runs both ways, as usual.

    They need a ceasefire to calm all this down, pick up the injured and set up a discussion frame, but it's not in the agenda....
    "L'homme est né libre, et partout il est dans les fers"
    -Jean-Jacques Rousseau
  • binauralsounds
    binauralsounds Posts: 1,357
    thankyougrandma wrote:
    They need a ceasefire to calm all this down, pick up the injured and set up a discussion frame, but it's not in the agenda....

    How many times have cease fires worked there? How many times has there been discussions?
    You'll wake up one day.
  • thankyougrandma
    thankyougrandma Posts: 1,182
    binauralsounds wrote:
    How many times have cease fires worked there? How many times has there been discussions?
    You'll wake up one day.

    no i hope i'll never wake up and being one of those who believe killing children is ok, i hope i'll never wake up in your world...
    "L'homme est né libre, et partout il est dans les fers"
    -Jean-Jacques Rousseau
  • rebornFixer
    rebornFixer Posts: 4,901
    thankyougrandma wrote:
    They need a ceasefire to calm all this down, pick up the injured and set up a discussion frame, but it's not in the agenda....

    Said ceasefire won't happen until Hizbollah make some concessions as well ... Pretty simple, but everyone seems to think that the U.S. and Israel need to do all the work, which is not realistic.
  • binauralsounds
    binauralsounds Posts: 1,357
    thankyougrandma wrote:
    no i hope i'll never wake up and being one of those who believe killing children is ok, i hope i'll never wake up in your world...

    once again, you've dodged the question and started on your rampage. again, please address the issue of how many times discussions and cease fires have worked there!!!!
  • thankyougrandma
    thankyougrandma Posts: 1,182
    binauralsounds wrote:
    once again, you've failed to dodge the question and start on your rampage. again, please address the issue of how many times discussions and cease fires have worked there!!!!

    i have not failed to dodge, i have dodge it, cause it's irrelevant, go back in 1968 if you want, i'm talking about now, Hezbollah representative said he'd agree to an unconditional cease fire, Israel are refusing it, even for humanitarian measure, they refuse, keep defending them...
    "L'homme est né libre, et partout il est dans les fers"
    -Jean-Jacques Rousseau
  • binauralsounds
    binauralsounds Posts: 1,357
    thankyougrandma wrote:
    i have not failed to dodge, i have dodge it, cause it's irrelevant, go back in 1968 if you want, i'm talking about now, Hezbollah representative said he'd agree to an unconditional cease fire, Israel are refusing it, even for humanitarian measure, they refuse, keep defending them...

    :rolleyes:

    they want a cease fire now huh? really? hmmm... I believe that! SO THEY CAN REARM!

    I guess the wonderful hezbollah leader forgot the last u.n. worthless resolution that required hezbollah disarm.

    oh, but he wants a cease fire.
  • thankyougrandma
    thankyougrandma Posts: 1,182
    binauralsounds wrote:
    :rolleyes:

    they want a cease fire now huh? really? hmmm... I believe that! SO THEY CAN REARM!

    I guess the wonderful hezbollah leader forgot the last u.n. worthless resolution that required hezbollah disarm.

    oh, but he wants a cease fire.

    Hezbollah leader don't care about the UN, they're criminals, even if they don't care about the UN, they said they'd agree to a no condition cease fire (just last Condi visit, you probably forgot), the political branch said they would agree to a cease fire, not a cease fire under Israel condition, Lebanon GOVERNMENT (not Hezbollah) called for an immediate humanitarian cease fire without condition, Israel refuse, so what are you saying exactly i'm not following you...

    About disarming Hezbollah, Lebanon will need help (as it is mentioned in the 1559, they didn't get it), now they're being destroyed, it just can't get in my mind how you can still think that those Israeli's hit over civillians will stop the Hezbollah in the future, i mean... nevermind...
    "L'homme est né libre, et partout il est dans les fers"
    -Jean-Jacques Rousseau
  • binauralsounds
    binauralsounds Posts: 1,357
    thankyougrandma wrote:
    Hezbollah leader don't care about the UN, they're criminals, even if they don't care about the UN, they said they'd agree to a no condition cease fire (just last Condi visit, you probably forgot), the political branch said they would agree to a cease fire, not a cease fire under Israel condition, Lebanon GOVERNMENT (not Hezbollah) called for an immediate humanitarian cease fire without condition, Israel refuse, so what are you saying exactly i'm not following you...

    About disarming Hezbollah, Lebanon will need help (as it is mentioned in the 1559, they didn't get it), now they're being destroyed, it just can't get in my mind how you can still think that those Israeli's hit over civillians will stop the Hezbollah in the future, i mean... nevermind...

    :rolleyes:

    ohh yeah, i completely forgot about her visit (are you kidding me?)..

    the same lebanon govt. that praised hezbollah today for their sacrafices. Yeah, real legit govt.
  • thankyougrandma
    thankyougrandma Posts: 1,182
    binauralsounds wrote:
    :rolleyes:

    ohh yeah, i completely forgot about her visit (are you kidding me?)..

    the same lebanon govt. that praised hezbollah today for their sacrafices. Yeah, real legit govt.

    anyway, i understand, Israel are the greatness who have done nothing wrong, now it's UN fault if they're killed, it's civillians fault if they're killed, and Lebanon govt. is not legit... wow!
    "L'homme est né libre, et partout il est dans les fers"
    -Jean-Jacques Rousseau
  • binauralsounds
    binauralsounds Posts: 1,357
    thankyougrandma wrote:
    anyway, i understand, Israel are the greatness who have done nothing wrong, now it's UN fault if they're killed, it's civillians fault if they're killed, and Lebanon govt. is not legit... wow!

    where did you find that?? dear, your anger is causing you to be dillusional!
  • NMyTree
    NMyTree Posts: 2,374
    But, in an interview with a few Hizbullah fighters, they stated (and made it perfectly clear) they would NOT agree to a cease-fire, even if Israel stopped their attacks.

    That statement was followed by one Hizbullah fighter plainly stating that there will be consequences for the Political Branch agreeing to a cease-fire.

    The figher clearly stated Hizbullah fighters will eliminate those of the Political Branch, who they (the Hizbullah fighters) feel betrayed them, by agreeing to a cease-fire. Which means they will attempt (and probably succeed) in killing those of the Political Branch who agreed to a cease-fire.
  • rebornFixer
    rebornFixer Posts: 4,901
    NMyTree wrote:
    But, in an interview with a few Hizbullah fighters, they stated (and made it perfectly clear) they would NOT agree to a cease-fire, even if Israel stopped their attacks.

    That statement was followed by one Hizbullah fighter plainly stating that there will be consequences for the Political Branch agreeing to a cease-fire.

    The figher clearly stated Hizbullah fighters will eliminate those of the Political Branch, who they (the Hizbullah fighters) feel betrayed them, by agreeing to a cease-fire. Which means they will attempt (and probably succeed) in killing those of the Political Branch who agreed to a cease-fire.

    A ceasefire would ignite a civil war within Hizbollah?

    Almost sounds like a reason to have one.
  • binauralsounds
    binauralsounds Posts: 1,357
    NMyTree wrote:
    But, in an interview with a few Hizbullah fighters, they stated (and made it perfectly clear) they would NOT agree to a cease-fire, even if Israel stopped their attacks.

    That statement was followed by one Hizbullah fighter plainly stating that there will be consequences for the Political Branch agreeing to a cease-fire.

    The figher clearly stated Hizbullah fighters will eliminate those of the Political Branch, who they (the Hizbullah fighters) feel betrayed them, by agreeing to a cease-fire. Which means they will attempt (and probably succeed) in killing those of the Political Branch who agreed to a cease-fire.


    could you please try to expalin this a little better to grandma. he/she doesn't even believe something like this is true. Afterall, hezbollah so desperately wants and end to this. :rolleyes:
  • thankyougrandma
    thankyougrandma Posts: 1,182
    binauralsounds wrote:
    where did you find that?? dear, your anger is causing you to be dillusional!

    oh maybe but i doubt it is the case now, i get that from all the post on this message board, some are going like "they received leaflets" when talking about civillians being bombed.

    some are going like "the same lebanon govt. that praised hezbollah today for their sacrafices. Yeah, real legit govt" when talking about Lebanon govt. demand about a cease fire

    some are going like "why does UN observers were even there" and that one even come from our beloved Canadian Prime Minister. So am i dillusional?
    "L'homme est né libre, et partout il est dans les fers"
    -Jean-Jacques Rousseau
  • binauralsounds
    binauralsounds Posts: 1,357
    thankyougrandma wrote:
    So am i dillusional?

    to an extent:)
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    binauralsounds wrote:
    There is no rationalizing with most on here with regards to the U.N. once again, it's all Americas fault. These people have an agenda and it's very clear.

    Rationalizing? Is that how you describe your attempts over the past couple of weeks to justify the Israeli slaughter of 750 Labanese civilians?

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