Anyone who claims that the setlists have gotten more predictable should at least have some numbers to back up the argument. To me, they look about as diverse as they were in 2000, 2003, 2005, 2006 ...
I'll be honest and say that I was dissappointed too. The majority of my shows have been in the Midwest, and MSG was my chance to see something "EPIC". The kind of back 2 back shows where they would do something like the full catalog at Boston, the re-immergence of Leash or Dirty Frank, etc. I wanted these shows to be something that I would remember for years to come. Well, with all the repeats, I'm sorry, they just weren't. I had hoped this tour would bring out some more often neglected material, and a chance to play some Lost Dogs stuff or some more songs from ITW. I'm starting to think the reality is that while they didn't have an album to promote, they also didn't have enough preparation to play a really diverse tour either.
Regardless, hey there WERE great shows, I was stoked to hear All Night, Who You Are, H2I, Release, Indifference, WMA, etc, but it just wasn't a set of shows that really pushed the envelope. As someone else said, as soon as the back-up singers came out again I thought "they're playing all 3 songs again tonight." I wanted both nights to be distinct shows. There was just too much overlap.
I won't change direction, and I won't change my mind - E.V.
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99 Tibetan Freedom Concert, 00 Detroit, 03 Alpine Valley, 04 Grand Rapids
06 Chicago I, 06 Chicago II, 06 Grand Rapids, 07 Lollapalloza, 08 DC, 08 MSG I, 08 MSG II, 08 EV Solo Milwaukee, Chicago I & II 09, Portland 09, Nobelsville 10, Cleveland 10, PJ20 I & II, Wrigley 13, Brooklyn I & II '13, St. Paul 14, Moline 14, Milwaukee 14
Been to 4 shows in Europe. have had GTF, Alive, RITFW, DTE, Corduroy for all of them. i think they should shuffle around the songs they play 99% of the time.
Instead of playing Alive 10 out of 10, maybe 5 out of 10.
"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
Just when I was starting to kinda sorta buy into the whole "Pearl Jam is a modern day Grateful Dead" argument, they play 2 nights at MSG and play the following on both nights:
Why Go
All Night
Corduroy
Given to Fly
Who You Are
Even Flow
Do The Evolution
W.M.A.
No More
I Believe In Miracles
Alive
Not knocking the band or the gigs at all. I had a freakin' blast and they certainly mix it up way more than just about anyone else I've ever seen, but I think the whole Dead comparison is, well, dead. I realize there is more to that analogy then just setlist variety, but that was always the crux of the argument for me.
Oh, well, still an epic couple nights.
Hope it's less than 5 years before they come back!
i'm sick to death hearing the comparison between the two bands. pearl jam doesn't come close to the dead. there are a shitload of bands out there that are closer to what the dead was than pearl jam. end of story.
In my opinion the shows were outstanding. I had been to 7 shows before MSG and had heard a total of 92 different songs. Over the course of the 2 shows they played 59 songs 48 of which were unique. I also think that they nailed most of the repeats better on night 2. All in all I had a blast and it appeared that the band did as well, let them play what they want.
ya they suck......please
the grateful dead were, and continue to be (despite being gone for 13 years) the most successful touring live musical act in the history of music. not sure how you can suck, and hold that title
they suck and everyone was on drugs.....thats just ignorant.
dont cite their "sucking" as a reason for a new set with nearly zero repeats each night. its called the grateful dead have a HUGE CATALOG
you can have your opinion but dont throw out stupid comments like you did above.
the point of the Dead comparison had more to do with the scene around it ... That only happens with a small handful of bands. The Dead are one. PJ is another.The comparison is a valid one.
As a dead fan who saw them 100s of times including following them during the tour in 78, I totally agree! I have also seen many bands over 35 years and the fan/band interaction is unique to these bands. Whoever said the Dead's catalog is worthless tells me you have limited music experience!
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"What we do for ourselves dies with us. What we do for others and the world remains and is immortal." Albert Pine.
there is no doubt PJ is a much better band than the dead,i never could figure out their cult following.i figured it was the parking lot parties like Buffett.drop enough acid and anyone sounds good
but seriously you can't mention them in the same breath musically as Led Zep or Floyd like you can with PJ
Also, with that said, The Grateful Dead were able to mix up their setlist more than anyone else for 2 reasons:
1. They had ZERO hits. Every song was on an equal level.
2. They suck and everyone was on drugs. So it didn't matter what they played.[/quote]
Having gone to many dead shows and pj shows, I love this comment and agree 100%.
I wish pj would play the exact same show back to back so no one would ever bring up the dead comparison again.
Ive noticed that some shows are repeating as well...I hope this isnt a sign of things to come!
East Troy 10/08/00 St. Paul 06/16/03 Chicago 5/17/06 St. Paul 6/26/06 St. Paul 6/27/06 Lollapalooza '07 Bonnaroo '08 Chicago 8/23/09 Chicago 8/24/09 PJ 20 9/3/11 PJ 20 9/4/11 Milwaukee 10/20/14 Chicago 8/20/16 Chicago 8/22/16 Chicago 8/18/18 Chicago 8/20/18
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What's with all the junior moderators on here lately?
Regardless, hey there WERE great shows, I was stoked to hear All Night, Who You Are, H2I, Release, Indifference, WMA, etc, but it just wasn't a set of shows that really pushed the envelope. As someone else said, as soon as the back-up singers came out again I thought "they're playing all 3 songs again tonight." I wanted both nights to be distinct shows. There was just too much overlap.
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99 Tibetan Freedom Concert, 00 Detroit, 03 Alpine Valley, 04 Grand Rapids
06 Chicago I, 06 Chicago II, 06 Grand Rapids, 07 Lollapalloza, 08 DC, 08 MSG I, 08 MSG II, 08 EV Solo Milwaukee, Chicago I & II 09, Portland 09, Nobelsville 10, Cleveland 10, PJ20 I & II, Wrigley 13, Brooklyn I & II '13, St. Paul 14, Moline 14, Milwaukee 14
Instead of playing Alive 10 out of 10, maybe 5 out of 10.
i'm sick to death hearing the comparison between the two bands. pearl jam doesn't come close to the dead. there are a shitload of bands out there that are closer to what the dead was than pearl jam. end of story.
~D.K.S.
a huge catalog that is pretty worthless.
"What we do for ourselves dies with us. What we do for others and the world remains and is immortal." Albert Pine.
but seriously you can't mention them in the same breath musically as Led Zep or Floyd like you can with PJ
1. They had ZERO hits. Every song was on an equal level.
2. They suck and everyone was on drugs. So it didn't matter what they played.[/quote]
Having gone to many dead shows and pj shows, I love this comment and agree 100%.
I wish pj would play the exact same show back to back so no one would ever bring up the dead comparison again.
Chicago 8/23/09 Chicago 8/24/09 PJ 20 9/3/11 PJ 20 9/4/11 Milwaukee 10/20/14 Chicago 8/20/16 Chicago 8/22/16 Chicago 8/18/18 Chicago 8/20/18