Mahmoud Ahmadinejad on Larry King 2night

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  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    MrBrian wrote:
    9pm I think....
    ...
    I bet he brings his boyfriend with him.
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  • brandon10brandon10 Posts: 1,114
    When Mahmoud does more interviews than Palin you really gotta wonder how the neocons get away with it?
  • brandon10 wrote:
    When Mahmoud does more interviews than Palin you really gotta wonder how the neocons get away with it?

    ain't that the truth...
    My whole life
    was like a picture
    of a sunny day
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  • I predict tomorrow all media outlets will run the wipe Israel off the map thing again...
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • AbuskedtiAbuskedti Posts: 1,917
    yes watch, he will be the much more knowledgable and articulate than any of our candidates or any in our entire executive branch.

    he will make far fewer threats, and have caused harm to far far fewer


    very very sad.


    bad bad man we will all say
  • MrBrianMrBrian Posts: 2,672
    BuMpiTy BuMp
  • MrBrianMrBrian Posts: 2,672
    He say's he would like to debate with any of the presidential candidates,
    Larry kings then asks "why do you think they don't want to debate with you?"

    Ahmadinejads reply? "I don't know, you ask them" haha! This guy's a joker!
  • NevermindNevermind Posts: 1,006
    I still dont understand why people think this man is evil.
  • 100 Pacer100 Pacer Toronto, ON Posts: 9,049
    Nevermind wrote:
    I still dont understand why people think this man is evil.

    ask the Iranian citizens that oppose him,...
    To quote the 10C from Newsletter #8: "Please understand we have a lot of members and it is very hard to please everybody. If you are one of those unhappy people...please call 1-900-IDN-TCAR."

    "Me knowing the truth, I can not concur."

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  • NevermindNevermind Posts: 1,006
    100 Pacer wrote:
    ask the Iranian citizens that oppose him,...
    Where are all these citizens? Was it in Western Media?
  • 100 Pacer100 Pacer Toronto, ON Posts: 9,049
    Nevermind wrote:
    Where are all these citizens? Was it in Western Media?

    shouldn't be too difficult for you to find them. book yourself a plane ticket to Iran and spend some time on the ground talking to some of the nationals,...
    To quote the 10C from Newsletter #8: "Please understand we have a lot of members and it is very hard to please everybody. If you are one of those unhappy people...please call 1-900-IDN-TCAR."

    "Me knowing the truth, I can not concur."

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  • NevermindNevermind Posts: 1,006
    100 Pacer wrote:
    shouldn't be too difficult for you to find them. book yourself a plane ticket to Iran and spend some time on the ground talking to some of the nationals,...
    If im to go on a goose hunt then you ought to do the same. Im sure his approval rating is much higher than our president.
  • 100 Pacer100 Pacer Toronto, ON Posts: 9,049
    Nevermind wrote:
    If im to go on a goose hunt then you ought to do the same. Im sure his approval rating is much higher than our president.

    but the initial point you raised:
    Nevermind wrote:
    Where are all these citizens? Was it in Western Media?

    has nothing to do with the follow-up point you raised RE: approval ratings.

    getting back on topic, no need for you to go on a goose hunt, an "actual Iranian" citizen is currently in the States:

    http://www.voanews.com/english/About/2008-06-30-voa83.cfm

    PRESS RELEASE - Washington, D.C., June 30, 2008 - Ahmad Batebi, a leader of the Iranian Student Movement and an activist for human rights in Iran, told the Voice of America's (VOA) Persian News Network (PNN) that, "torture, human rights violations, and abuses towards women still are prevalent in Iran."

    On the set of NewsTalk, Batebi described the physical and mental abuse of prisoners inside Iran. Having spent more than nine years in jail, he spoke of suffering torture and abuse that triggered massive swelling of the right lobe of his brain. Batebi observed that, "the main aim of the severe, humiliating torture that me and my fellow prisoners endured was to force us to say what the authorities wanted to hear, and if we did not adhere, they would intimidate and abuse our families."

    Batebi has recently arrived in Washington, after leaving Iran, and traveling through Iraq and Austria. During the interview, Batebi said, "I wish each and every Iranian could travel abroad, come to the U.S. or go to Europe, for just one week, and feel, smell, and breathe freedom, human dignity, and realize the value of their lives."

    Ahmad Batebi, gained notoriety in July 1999 for holding up a bloodied shirt belonging to Ezzat Ebrahim-Najad, a fellow student, who had been beaten by the 'Basij' paramilitaries. Following publication of the photo, called "an icon for Iran's student reform movement," Batebi was arrested, tried in closed-door proceedings, found guilty and sentenced to death by Tehran's Revolutionary Court. His sentence was later reduced to 15 years after domestic and international outcry.

    NewsTalk is a daily, 60-minute Persian TV call-in show (11:30 P.M.-12:30 a.m. in Iran) featuring interviews with newsmakers and personalities in the news. VOA has the largest audience of all international broadcasters in Iran, with one in four adult Iranians tuning into a VOA show each week. Programs are also streamed on http://www.VOAPNN.com.

    The Voice of America, which first went on the air in 1942, is a multimedia international broadcasting service funded by the U.S. government through the Broadcasting Board of Governors. VOA broadcasts more than 1,250 hours of news, information, educational, and cultural programming every week to an estimated worldwide audience of more than 115 million people. Programs are produced in 45 languages.
    To quote the 10C from Newsletter #8: "Please understand we have a lot of members and it is very hard to please everybody. If you are one of those unhappy people...please call 1-900-IDN-TCAR."

    "Me knowing the truth, I can not concur."

    1996: Toronto - 1998: Chicago, Montreal, Barrie - 2000: Montreal, Toronto - 2002: Seattle X2 (Key Arena) - 2003: Cleveland, Buffalo, Toronto, Montreal, Seattle (Benaroya Hall) - 2004: Reading, Toledo, Grand Rapids - 2005: Kitchener, London, Hamilton, Montreal, Ottawa, Toronto, Quebec City - 2006: Toronto X2, Albany, Hartford, Grand Rapids, Cleveland - 2007: Chicago (Vic Theatre) - 2008: NYC X2, Hartford, Mansfield X2 - 2009: Toronto, Chicago X2, Seattle X2, Philadelphia X4 - 2010: Columbus, Noblesville, Cleveland, Buffalo, Hartford - 2011: Montreal, Toronto X2, Ottawa, Hamilton - 2012: Missoula - 2013: London, Chicago, Buffalo, Hartford - 2014: Detroit, Moline - 2015: NYC (Global Citizen Festival) - 2016: Greenville, Toronto X2, Chicago 1 - 2017: Brooklyn (RRHOF Induction) - 2018: Chicago 1, Boston 1 - 2022: Fresno, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto, NYC, Camden - 2023: St. Paul X2, Austin X2 - 2024: Vancouver X2, Portland, Sacramento, Missoula, Noblesville, Philadelphia X2, Baltimore - 2025: Hollywood X2, Nashville X2, Pittsburgh X2
  • Larry: So...are you evil?

    Ahmadinejad: No.

    Larry: Well..everyone in the West says you're evil...more evil than Bush...

    Ahmadinejad: I'm a dinner jacket.

    Larry: hmm....well...I've never seen an evil dinner jacket before

    Ahmadinjad: Yes...either have I.

    Larry: Well...there you have it folks...g-night...
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • saveuplifesaveuplife Posts: 1,173
    Nevermind wrote:
    I still dont understand why people think this man is evil.


    Look, I'm normally not one for comments like this, but I got to go there after that comment...

    You, my friend, are a dumbass.
  • NevermindNevermind Posts: 1,006
    5/8/2006 1:42 PM ET
    WASHINGTON — President Bush's approval rating has slumped to 31% in a new USA TODAY/Gallup Poll, the lowest of his presidency and a warning sign for Republicans in the November elections.
    http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2006-05-08-bush-approval_x.htm
    6/20
    "He's more popular now than a year ago. He's on the rise," said Nasser Hadian-Jazy, a professor of political science at Tehran University. "I guess he has a 70% approval rating right now. He portrays himself as a simple man doing an honest job. He's comfortable communicating with ordinary people."
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2006/jun/20/iran.ewenmacaskill
    I just cant hate on a man with an approval rating twice as high as our president.
  • OpenOpen Posts: 792
    saveuplife wrote:
    Look, I'm normally not one for comments like this, but I got to go there after that comment...

    You, my friend, are a dumbass.

    Do you or did u support Bush?
  • NevermindNevermind Posts: 1,006
    The US psychological torture system is finally on trialAmerica has deliberately driven hundreds, perhaps thousands, of prisoners insane. Now it is being held to account in a Miami court
    Naomi Klein

    Something remarkable is going on in a Miami courtroom. The cruel methods US interrogators have used since September 11 to "break" prisoners are finally being put on trial. This was not supposed to happen. The Bush administration's plan was to put José Padilla on trial for allegedly being part of a network linked to international terrorists. But Padilla's lawyers are arguing that he is not fit to stand trial because he has been driven insane by the government.
    Arrested in May 2002 at Chicago's O'Hare airport, Padilla, a Brooklyn-born former gang member, was classified as an "enemy combatant" and taken to a navy prison in Charleston, South Carolina. He was kept in a cell 9ft by 7ft, with no natural light, no clock and no calendar. Whenever Padilla left the cell, he was shackled and suited in heavy goggles and headphones. Padilla was kept under these conditions for 1,307 days. He was forbidden contact with anyone but his interrogators, who punctured the extreme sensory deprivation with sensory overload, blasting him with harsh lights and pounding sounds. Padilla also says he was injected with a "truth serum", a substance his lawyers believe was LSD or PCP.

    According to his lawyers and two mental health specialists who examined him, Padilla has been so shattered that he lacks the ability to assist in his own defence. He is convinced that his lawyers are "part of a continuing interrogation program" and sees his captors as protectors. In order to prove that "the extended torture visited upon Mr Padilla has left him damaged", his lawyers want to tell the court what happened during those years in the navy brig. The prosecution strenuously objects, maintaining that "Padilla is competent" and that his treatment is irrelevant.

    The US district judge Marcia Cooke disagrees. "It's not like Mr Padilla was living in a box. He was at a place. Things happened to him at that place." The judge has ordered several prison employees to testify on Padilla's mental state at the hearings, which began yesterday. They will be asked how a man who is alleged to have engaged in elaborate anti-government plots now acts, in the words of brig staff, "like a piece of furniture".

    It's difficult to overstate the significance of these hearings. The techniques used to break Padilla have been standard operating procedure at Guantánamo Bay since the first prisoners arrived five years ago. They wore blackout goggles and sound-blocking headphones and were placed in extended isolation, interrupted by strobe lights and heavy metal music. These same practices have been documented in dozens of cases of "extraordinary rendition" carried out by the CIA, as well as in prisons in Iraq and Afghanistan.

    Many have suffered the same symptoms as Padilla. According to James Yee, a former army Muslim chaplain at Guantánamo, there is an entire section of the prison called Delta Block for detainees who have been reduced to a delusional state. "They would respond to me in a childlike voice, talking complete nonsense. Many of them would loudly sing childish songs, repeating the song over and over." All the inmates of Delta Block were on 24-hour suicide watch.

    Human Rights Watch has exposed a US-run detention facility near Kabul known as the "prison of darkness" - tiny pitch-black cells, strange blaring sounds. "Plenty lost their minds," one former inmate recalled. "I could hear people knocking their heads against the walls and the doors."

    These standard mind-breaking techniques have never faced scrutiny in an American court because the prisoners in the jails are foreigners and have been stripped of the right of habeas corpus - a denial that, scandalously, was just upheld by a federal appeals court in Washington DC. There is only one reason Padilla's case is different - he is a US citizen. The administration did not originally intend to bring Padilla to trial, but when his status as an enemy combatant faced a supreme court challenge, the administration abruptly changed course, charging Padilla and transferring him to civilian custody. That makes Padilla's case unique - he is the only victim of the post-9/11 legal netherworld to face an ordinary US trial.

    Now that Padilla's mental state is the central issue in the case, the government prosecutors are presented with a problem. The CIA and the military have known since the early 1960s that extreme sensory deprivation and sensory overload cause personality disintegration - that's the whole point. "The deprivation of stimuli induces regression by depriving the subject's mind of contact with an outer world and thus forcing it in upon itself. At the same time, the calculated provision of stimuli during interrogation tends to make the regressed subject view the interrogator as a father-figure." That comes from Kubark Counterintelligence Interrogation, a declassified 1963 CIA manual for interrogating "resistant sources".

    The manual was based on the findings of the agency's notorious MK-ULTRA programme, which in the 1950s funnelled about $25m to scientists to carry out research into "unusual techniques of interrogation". One of the psychiatrists who received CIA funding was the infamous Ewen Cameron, of Montreal's McGill University. Cameron subjected hundreds of psychiatric patients to large doses of electroshock and total sensory isolation, and drugged them with LSD and PCP. In 1960 Cameron gave a lecture at the Brooks air force base in Texas, in which he stated that sensory deprivation "produces the primary symptoms of schizophrenia".

    There is no need to go so far back to prove that the US military knew full well that it was driving Padilla mad. The army's field manual, reissued just last year, states: "Sensory deprivation may result in extreme anxiety, hallucinations, bizarre thoughts, depression, and antisocial behaviour" - as well as "significant psychological distress".

    If these techniques drove Padilla insane, that means the US government has been deliberately driving hundreds, possibly thousands, of prisoners insane around the world. What is on trial in Florida is not one man's mental state. It is the whole system of US psychological torture.
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2007/feb/23/comment.terrorism
  • saveuplifesaveuplife Posts: 1,173
    Nevermind wrote:
    5/8/2006 1:42 PM ET
    WASHINGTON — President Bush's approval rating has slumped to 31% in a new USA TODAY/Gallup Poll, the lowest of his presidency and a warning sign for Republicans in the November elections.
    http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2006-05-08-bush-approval_x.htm
    6/20
    "He's more popular now than a year ago. He's on the rise," said Nasser Hadian-Jazy, a professor of political science at Tehran University. "I guess he has a 70% approval rating right now. He portrays himself as a simple man doing an honest job. He's comfortable communicating with ordinary people."
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2006/jun/20/iran.ewenmacaskill
    I just cant hate on a man with an approval rating twice as high as our president.


    Huh. 2006 was two years ago.

    Anyway, pleeeeeeeze. I def would believe the polls in Iran. Come on. I can understand that you don't like Bush. But, seriously.... this dude is a douche. He wants to clear out the Jews.
  • NevermindNevermind Posts: 1,006
    saveuplife wrote:
    Look, I'm normally not one for comments like this, but I got to go there after that comment...

    You, my friend, are a dumbass.
    Care to explain? Why?
  • saveuplifesaveuplife Posts: 1,173
    Nevermind wrote:
    Care to explain? Why?


    The man is not a friend of the U.S. That's easy to see.
  • NevermindNevermind Posts: 1,006
    saveuplife wrote:
    The man is not a friend of the U.S. That's easy to see.
    No way....
  • NevermindNevermind Posts: 1,006
    saveuplife wrote:
    Huh. 2006 was two years ago.
    2008-03-20 09:09:06
    The poll by CNN and the Opinion Research Corporation found that 67 percent of 1,019 adults surveyed from March 14 to 16 disapproved of the Bush administration.
    CNN said the 31 percent approval rating in the latest survey was a new low for Bush in its polling records, 40 percentage points lower than at the start of the Iraq war on March 20, 2003.
    "Bush's approval rating five years ago, at the start of the Iraq war, was 71 percent, and that 40-points drop is almost identical to the drop President Lyndon Johnson faced during the Vietnam War," CNN polling director Keating Holland said.
  • saveuplifesaveuplife Posts: 1,173
    Nevermind wrote:
    2008-03-20 09:09:06
    The poll by CNN and the Opinion Research Corporation found that 67 percent of 1,019 adults surveyed from March 14 to 16 disapproved of the Bush administration.
    CNN said the 31 percent approval rating in the latest survey was a new low for Bush in its polling records, 40 percentage points lower than at the start of the Iraq war on March 20, 2003.
    "Bush's approval rating five years ago, at the start of the Iraq war, was 71 percent, and that 40-points drop is almost identical to the drop President Lyndon Johnson faced during the Vietnam War," CNN polling director Keating Holland said.


    I'm waiting for Ahmadinejad's 2008 opinion poll lol. Keep on diggin and get back to work. Very disappointing.
  • brandon10brandon10 Posts: 1,114
    saveuplife wrote:
    I'm waiting for Ahmadinejad's 2008 opinion poll lol. Keep on diggin and get back to work. Very disappointing.


    I'd take Mahmoud over George any day. Mahmoud has killed far less people and is foreign policy doesn't involve spreading his army all over the world. Other than his feelings towards Israel, I see no major problems.
  • saveuplifesaveuplife Posts: 1,173
    brandon10 wrote:
    I'd take Mahmoud over George any day. Mahmoud has killed far less people and is foreign policy doesn't involve spreading his army all over the world. Other than his feelings towards Israel, I see no major problems.


    Please move there. Thanks and enjoy.
  • brandon10brandon10 Posts: 1,114
    saveuplife wrote:
    Please move there. Thanks and enjoy.


    Actually, we should send you and George Bush there. You can be his body guard.
  • OpenOpen Posts: 792
    saveuplife wrote:
    Please move there. Thanks and enjoy.

    Ahmadinejad (if Christian) would win the necon vote here in the states....he parallels bush in several ways...use religion to get to power, anti-homosexual, disenfranchised voters and lies out of his ass..
  • brandon10 wrote:
    I'd take Mahmoud over George any day. Mahmoud has killed far less people and is foreign policy doesn't involve spreading his army all over the world. Other than his feelings towards Israel, I see no major problems.

    Please stop making sense...some people are trying to spread western hate. Let us hate...it's democratic.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

    (\__/)
    ( o.O)
    (")_(")
  • NevermindNevermind Posts: 1,006
    saveuplife wrote:
    I'm waiting for Ahmadinejad's 2008 opinion poll lol. Keep on diggin and get back to work. Very disappointing.
    Im sure its much higher than the approval rating of congress and our president combined.
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