Obama picks Biden for VP
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MrBrian wrote:It's like cutting a cheque for a killer every now and then so he can kill more, then being like "I don't really like to get my hands dirty"
When you say that you will stand by someone even when they do wrong, then arm them so they can do more wrong. I think that's a bit more then some lip service, no?
These are serious actions that have serious Consequences
oh, and 'a check every now and then' inaccurately describes it: http://forums.pearljam.com/showthread.php?t=2975430 -
_outlaw wrote:not to mention the fact that obama (and clearly biden) has gone out of his way to show blinded support to Israel - in fact, moreso than any other candidate in history...
oh, and 'a check every now and then' inaccurately describes it: http://forums.pearljam.com/showthread.php?t=297543
what? America just seems like a really nice friend.all that money they give to little israel...Helping israel defend itself. and according to Biden, the palestinians are in a bad way because of bad Palestinian leadership. Not that little occupation thing
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AP Says Biden?If you keep yourself as the final arbiter you will be less susceptible to infection from cultural illusion.0
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Obama is the candidate for the next stage. Bush was great for shitting all over civil liberties to create social control mechanisms at home, but he's ran his course. The next stage of the game is to enlarge the Bilderberger/CFR/Zionist/Halliburton/Skull&Bones/Federal Reserve/Exxon/Merck/DeBeers military oil whore cablist's sphere of influence to new areas of the globe. Bush had too much good ole boy Texas death penalty patriotism to be party to getting in bed with a bunch of foreign countries, unless we're running shit. Now we'll have a "citizen of the world", internationalist President with a zionist, globalist, CFR and long-time Bilderberger Vice President.
We should be able to capture control of a greater share of the planet's resources as well as crush our enemies from within through ruthless, exploitative capitalism .
BTW, Biden voted for the war and then bailed out of support because he had a competing plan on what to do in Iraq. He wanted to partition Iraq into three federated sections based on race/religion/culture (Kurd-Shiite-Sunni). That's worked well in the past (See Former Yugoslavian states). He believes Iraq needs to be escalated internationally. He also wants to expand our overseas troop deployments by sending troops to Darfur. For an example of our past sucess battling African warlords inside their own country, see Somalia.
Obama couldn't have selected a more elite-acceptable candidate.0 -
unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487So much for "change" and getting away from those Washington insiders.
Add it to the growing list of Obama flip-flops.0 -
Obama was so set on keeping this a secret and sending out that text to let the people be the first to know. now the news keeps reporting " democratic sources confirm".... now, its not Obama confirming this, and we know it was a BIG deal for Obama to not let it leak.... what "democratic source" is sleazy and underhanded enough to leak this and make Obama look like a fool and let all the people excited about the "know first by text" people down? this REAKS of a Clinton move. NObody in Obama's camp let this out...0
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Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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MrBrian wrote:So he (Biden)voted for the Iraq war, is in love with Israel and I think voted to entend the patriot act.
So far so good,
Obama is shaping up to not only meet, but exceed my expectations.
wow...that was hard...Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
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MrBrian wrote:Even more reason to dislike Obama?
Interesting choice.
I just get the feeling whoever he picked, we would still see the same headline here from you..
Maybe that's not the case...Enlighten me if i'm wrong. I'm all ears.0 -
unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487I would have liked to see General Clark. I mean if I have to suffer through an Obama presidency I'd at least like to have the good General around.0
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You know what's really amusing....
To sit back over the last 12 months and watch the majority of the anti obama people, whinge, moan and bitch about how obama is not for change and how he is just like we have now, no different. It's freaking hilarious to watch you put so much effort into criticizing obama and singling him out all the time compared to the other candidates, when its you guys who are saying he is just the same.
Then when you are called out on it you say 'oooooooh, but it's a given mccain sucks'. We are just telling you that Obama does too, blah blah blah blah blah.
Why do you put so much effort into it if he is just the same? On your logic it doesn't make fuck all difference who we vote if they are the same right, so why bother? Do you just like to her your own voices or something?
You know what? If he is really just the same, then we are not going to be any worse off are we.
Apparently :rolleyes:0 -
Obama is NOT the same, he's an unknown factor.
McCain = the same thing we've been through the last 8 years.
Obama = could be better or could be worse. The major problem with Obama, he's a young man with not much global experience who will have to surround himself with a group of people to help form opinions and make decisions (hmm...W??)0 -
I think with this ticket, the deal is sealed. Joebama will take over in January.0
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Pj_Gurl wrote:Like you need anymore reasons anyway. Was there anyone you would've been happy for him to pick that was a genuine front runner?
I just get the feeling whoever he picked, we would still see the same headline here from you..
Maybe that's not the case...Enlighten me if i'm wrong. I'm all ears.
Look gurl, I'm not worried, I'm not voting for him. You are, the question is, how much are you willing to sell out?
Unless you support the things Biden supports? I mean everyone gave excuses for Obama, "he supports the troops,not the war blah blah blah"
So now what, the excuses for someone like Biden starts?
Now to answer your question, Caroline kennedy wouldve been a better choice. I mean issue by issue, not that you vote on issues right?
Not that she was a front runner or anything. But I think she would be a bettet choice.0 -
MrBrian wrote:Look gurl, I'm not worried, I'm not voting for him. You are, the question is, how much are you willing to sell out?
Unless you support the things Biden supports? I mean everyone gave excuses for Obama, "he supports the troops,not the war blah blah blah"
So now what, the excuses for someone like Biden starts?
Now to answer your question, Caroline kennedy wouldve been a better choice. I mean issue by issue, not that you vote on issues right?
Not that she was a front runner or anything. But I think she would be a bettet choice.
i sold out years ago when i cut my hair. i don't vote on the VP, i vote for the president. i don't care what biden believes. obama's going to have a whole cabinet, and guess what? i'm probably not going to 100% agree with every single one of their views!
jesus, for supposedly being people that want us all to "open our minds" you are unwilling to ever accept anyone in office who does not vote the "right" way on every issue on your ticker. as i said to outlaw elsewhere, jesus and ghandi could come back from the dead and run as a ticket based on nobody ever fighting and everyone eating, and you two would be pissing and moaning about how once ghandi took $20 from a guy who later turned out to be a date-rapist and so none of us should vote for him.
son of a bitch! i just realized you're not even from the states! is your country so boring you don't have politics of your own to worry about?and like that... he's gone.0 -
_outlaw wrote:not to mention the fact that obama (and clearly biden) has gone out of his way to show blinded support to Israel - in fact, moreso than any other candidate in history...
oh, and 'a check every now and then' inaccurately describes it: http://forums.pearljam.com/showthread.php?t=297543
guess i was wrong on that one. i thought we had told israel we weren't giving them more money. i swear i saw a headline similar to that somewhere recently. my bad. personally, i say fuck israel and fuck palestine. let them burn each other to the ground. we can't do a godamn thing about it. i'm more pissed about those tax dollars going overseas instead of into our infrastructure than who they're going to.and like that... he's gone.0 -
catch22 wrote:i sold out years ago when i cut my hair. i don't vote on the VP, i vote for the president. i don't care what biden believes. obama's going to have a whole cabinet, and guess what? i'm probably not going to 100% agree with every single one of their views!
jesus, for supposedly being people that want us all to "open our minds" you are unwilling to ever accept anyone in office who does not vote the "right" way on every issue on your ticker. as i said to outlaw elsewhere, jesus and ghandi could come back from the dead and run as a ticket based on nobody ever fighting and everyone eating, and you two would be pissing and moaning about how once ghandi took $20 from a guy who later turned out to be a date-rapist and so none of us should vote for him.
son of a bitch! i just realized you're not even from the states! is your country so boring you don't have politics of your own to worry about?
It's not just a few small issues, these are major world shaping issues that they are wrong on. If you still support them after that, then fine. Go ahead.
You support the war? Good, vote for those fuckers.0 -
MrBrian wrote:It's not just a few small issues, these are major world shaping issues that they are wrong on. If you still support them after that, then fine. Go ahead.
You support the war? Good, vote for those fuckers.
which war? i've never supported the iraq war, been 100% opposed from the 'axis of evil' speech. i knew we were fucked even then. but the way they steamrolled any discussion about it to get their war scared the shit out of me. i'm willing to jump at the chance of ANY candidate that offers even the prospect of maybe a little conversation or consideration before going to war. because things here cannot get any worse than they already are. we've funded israel for decades, and sure it needs to change. but what's another 4-8 years to those crazy bloodthirsty motherfuckers over there (both of them)? for now, i'll be happy to have someone who is less likely than john mccain to add a third war to our roster and maybe take a few steps towards getting out of one or two of the others. baby steps buddy.and like that... he's gone.0 -
catch22 wrote:which war? i've never supported the iraq war, been 100% opposed from the 'axis of evil' speech. i knew we were fucked even then. but the way they steamrolled any discussion about it to get their war scared the shit out of me. i'm willing to jump at the chance of ANY candidate that offers even the prospect of maybe a little conversation or consideration before going to war. because things here cannot get any worse than they already are.
I know you didnt support the war, that's the thing. But You are ready to vote for someone who did. weird?
Sure he is just the vp, but that's a big deal. Remember,dick cheney is VP... and look at the shit he started.
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How about the Patriot Act, thoughts on that? Because you know who supported that right?
Obama and Biden, not soooo good.
Anyway, 3pm is the speeches. should be provide a good laugh0 -
somehow i dont think the palestinian/israeli situation is very high on the list of priorites of voters.0
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