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Obama picks Biden for VP

MrBrianMrBrian Posts: 2,672
edited August 2008 in A Moving Train
Even more reason to dislike Obama?

Interesting choice.
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  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    well someone had to be
  • fuckfuck Posts: 4,069
    cutback wrote:
    well someone had to be
    i guess if obama picked joe lieberman, we'd say "well someone had to be"

    joe biden sucks... now i'll have to debate whether or not I should support Obama....... very hard choice.
  • MrBrianMrBrian Posts: 2,672
    Some things about him,


    "I am a zionist"

    http://shalomtv.org/pdfs/ShalomTV_Biden_PR.pdf
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    Good choice Barack
  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,200
    Let's see what that bumpersticker might look like Obama/Biden

    Eh nothing special there?

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  • catch22catch22 Posts: 1,081
    he needed the credibility among the democratic establishment and those concerned with defense/national affairs, a weak spot for him. it's a smart play on his part.
    and like that... he's gone.
  • MrBrianMrBrian Posts: 2,672
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAZmO80dLfE
  • drew0drew0 Posts: 943
    I couldn't be more happy with the choice. Joe Biden is an amazing Senator and a great choice.

    He is one of the most well respected Senators in the world. He will bring many strengths to the Obama campaign - he well provide assurance to those who are uneasy about Obama's lack of experience, when Obama needs legislation past Biden will be of great help by twisting arms and such just as Johnson was to Kennedy, he appeals to the blue collar workers Obama has trouble with - he's a blue collar, middle class (worth <$150,000), Catholic, rural, friendly, white guy.

    Joe Biden is the perfect chocie for Obama and I will make a great campaigner.

    Kennedy/Johnson & Bush/Cheney won. Kerry/Edwards lost. America likes the young figurehead at the top with an old experience guy at the bottom.

    Why I love Joe Biden - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1op8vwF5UA
    Pittsburgh 6/23/06
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  • fuckfuck Posts: 4,069
    MrBrian wrote:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAZmO80dLfE
    ...
  • MrBrianMrBrian Posts: 2,672
    _outlaw wrote:
    ...

    Yeah you know, I'm sure a Zionist will be fair when dealing with the Palestinians.

    here, a great Biden quote
    The Democrats' support for Israel "comes from our gut, moves through our heart, and ends up in our head. It's almost genetic." (October 5, 2006)
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    He should add, "then comes out of our ass holes"
  • MrBrianMrBrian Posts: 2,672
    "Because of our lack of a prevention strategy, we're left with no option here, in my view, but to support Israel in what is a totally legitimate self-defense effort." (Washington, July 16, 2006)

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  • fuckfuck Posts: 4,069
    MrBrian wrote:
    Yeah you know, I'm sure a Zionist will be fair when dealing with the Palestinians.

    here, a great Biden quote
    The Democrats' support for Israel "comes from our gut, moves through our heart, and ends up in our head. It's almost genetic." (October 5, 2006)
    ---

    He should add, "then comes out of our ass holes"
    oh, absolutely. the democrats' love is unbearable:
    http://forums.pearljam.com/showthread.php?t=297543

    Looks like the Obama/Biden team is the perfect one to spearhead Israel's occupation and oppression of Palestinians. I wonder how many Palestinians will die for every vote that is punched in for Obama this election.
  • catch22catch22 Posts: 1,081
    _outlaw wrote:
    oh, absolutely. the democrats' love is unbearable:
    http://forums.pearljam.com/showthread.php?t=297543

    Looks like the Obama/Biden team is the perfect one to spearhead Israel's occupation and oppression of Palestinians. I wonder how many Palestinians will die for every vote that is punched in for Obama this election.

    considering that even with our piss-poor turn out, american voters outnumber palestinians probably 10 to 1... i'm gonna guess 1/70th of a palestinian dies for every vote cast for obama.
    and like that... he's gone.
  • fuckfuck Posts: 4,069
    catch22 wrote:
    considering that even with our piss-poor turn out, american voters outnumber palestinians probably 10 to 1... i'm gonna guess 1/70th of a palestinian dies for every vote cast for obama.
    only a few thousand, what's the big deal right??

    and it's not like that even includes the ones having their rights violated, living in poverty and segregation... nah, who gives a shit.

    Obama '08!!
  • MrBrianMrBrian Posts: 2,672
    So he (Biden)voted for the Iraq war, is in love with Israel and I think voted to entend the patriot act.

    So far so good,
  • catch22catch22 Posts: 1,081
    _outlaw wrote:
    only a few thousand, what's the big deal right??

    and it's not like that even includes the ones having their rights violated, living in poverty and segregation... nah, who gives a shit.

    Obama '08!!

    hey man, you wanted the math! i just crunch the numbers :)

    there are people dying the world over. what makes the palestinians so much more important than the millions of africans dying in civil war and hunger? i'm not picking my president based on any one issue. it's looking at the whole package. nobody is going to be perfect.
    and like that... he's gone.
  • catch22catch22 Posts: 1,081
    MrBrian wrote:
    So he (Biden)voted for the Iraq war, is in love with Israel and I think voted to entend the patriot act.

    So far so good,

    good thing he's not running for president then, and will be taking his orders from obama ;)
    and like that... he's gone.
  • MrBrianMrBrian Posts: 2,672
    catch22 wrote:
    hey man, you wanted the math! i just crunch the numbers :)

    there are people dying the world over. what makes the palestinians so much more important than the millions of africans dying in civil war and hunger? i'm not picking my president based on any one issue. it's looking at the whole package. nobody is going to be perfect.

    Who said it's more important? It's just a more talked about topic right now. Indeed nobody is going to be perfect, but on such a big topic like this, can he afford to be so wrong?

    Imagine in the 80s you had an american candidate who said that he supports apartheid south africa, would you not be turned off by him?

    same thing with this...It's wrong to support israel the way these guys do.
  • fuckfuck Posts: 4,069
    MrBrian wrote:
    Who said it's more important? It's just a more talked about topic right now. Indeed nobody is going to be perfect, but on such a big topic like this, can he afford to be so wrong?

    Imagine in the 80s you had an american candidate who said that he supports apartheid south africa, would you not be turned off by him?

    same thing with this...It's wrong to support israel the way these guys do.
    other than the fact that it's pretty much the hottest issue in the middle east, and one of the biggest in the world.

    if the U.S. were to take an ACTUAL effort to end its blinded support of Israel and work towards the international solution, the entire world would look to us in a new light.

    too bad obama and biden seem to want to continue down this same pathetic road...
  • catch22catch22 Posts: 1,081
    MrBrian wrote:
    Who said it's more important? It's just a more talked about topic right now. Indeed nobody is going to be perfect, but on such a big topic like this, can he afford to be so wrong?

    Imagine in the 80s you had an american candidate who said that he supports apartheid south africa, would you not be turned off by him?

    same thing with this...It's wrong to support israel the way these guys do.

    sure it is. but it's like candidates on the right saying they support christian values. they all have to pay lip service, but nobody does shit about it. sure, they'll cut israel a check now and again (though didnt they recently stop doing even that?), but i think more than anything they all want to keep their hands out of it because they know it's just a huge clusterfuck over there.
    and like that... he's gone.
  • MrBrianMrBrian Posts: 2,672
    catch22 wrote:
    sure it is. but it's like candidates on the right saying they support christian values. they all have to pay lip service, but nobody does shit about it. sure, they'll cut israel a check now and again (though didnt they recently stop doing even that?), but i think more than anything they all want to keep their hands out of it because they know it's just a huge clusterfuck over there.

    It's like cutting a cheque for a killer every now and then so he can kill more, then being like "I don't really like to get my hands dirty"

    When you say that you will stand by someone even when they do wrong, then arm them so they can do more wrong. I think that's a bit more then some lip service, no?
    These are serious actions that have serious Consequences
  • fuckfuck Posts: 4,069
    MrBrian wrote:
    It's like cutting a cheque for a killer every now and then so he can kill more, then being like "I don't really like to get my hands dirty"

    When you say that you will stand by someone even when they do wrong, then arm them so they can do more wrong. I think that's a bit more then some lip service, no?
    These are serious actions that have serious Consequences
    not to mention the fact that obama (and clearly biden) has gone out of his way to show blinded support to Israel - in fact, moreso than any other candidate in history...

    oh, and 'a check every now and then' inaccurately describes it: http://forums.pearljam.com/showthread.php?t=297543
  • MrBrianMrBrian Posts: 2,672
    _outlaw wrote:
    not to mention the fact that obama (and clearly biden) has gone out of his way to show blinded support to Israel - in fact, moreso than any other candidate in history...

    oh, and 'a check every now and then' inaccurately describes it: http://forums.pearljam.com/showthread.php?t=297543

    what? America just seems like a really nice friend. :D all that money they give to little israel...Helping israel defend itself. and according to Biden, the palestinians are in a bad way because of bad Palestinian leadership. Not that little occupation thing
  • HoonHoon Posts: 175
    AP Says Biden?
    If you keep yourself as the final arbiter you will be less susceptible to infection from cultural illusion.
  • raszputiniraszputini Posts: 119
    Obama is the candidate for the next stage. Bush was great for shitting all over civil liberties to create social control mechanisms at home, but he's ran his course. The next stage of the game is to enlarge the Bilderberger/CFR/Zionist/Halliburton/Skull&Bones/Federal Reserve/Exxon/Merck/DeBeers military oil whore cablist's sphere of influence to new areas of the globe. Bush had too much good ole boy Texas death penalty patriotism to be party to getting in bed with a bunch of foreign countries, unless we're running shit. Now we'll have a "citizen of the world", internationalist President with a zionist, globalist, CFR and long-time Bilderberger Vice President.

    We should be able to capture control of a greater share of the planet's resources as well as crush our enemies from within through ruthless, exploitative capitalism .

    BTW, Biden voted for the war and then bailed out of support because he had a competing plan on what to do in Iraq. He wanted to partition Iraq into three federated sections based on race/religion/culture (Kurd-Shiite-Sunni). That's worked well in the past (See Former Yugoslavian states). He believes Iraq needs to be escalated internationally. He also wants to expand our overseas troop deployments by sending troops to Darfur. For an example of our past sucess battling African warlords inside their own country, see Somalia.

    Obama couldn't have selected a more elite-acceptable candidate.
  • unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    So much for "change" and getting away from those Washington insiders.

    Add it to the growing list of Obama flip-flops.
  • robbierobbie Posts: 883
    Obama was so set on keeping this a secret and sending out that text to let the people be the first to know. now the news keeps reporting " democratic sources confirm".... now, its not Obama confirming this, and we know it was a BIG deal for Obama to not let it leak.... what "democratic source" is sleazy and underhanded enough to leak this and make Obama look like a fool and let all the people excited about the "know first by text" people down? this REAKS of a Clinton move. NObody in Obama's camp let this out...
  • RolandTD20KdrummerRolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    MrBrian wrote:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAZmO80dLfE


    Oh fuck here we go...

    big surprise...
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • RolandTD20KdrummerRolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    MrBrian wrote:
    So he (Biden)voted for the Iraq war, is in love with Israel and I think voted to entend the patriot act.

    So far so good,


    Obama is shaping up to not only meet, but exceed my expectations.

    wow...that was hard...
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

    (\__/)
    ( o.O)
    (")_(")
  • AnonAnon Posts: 11,175
    MrBrian wrote:
    Even more reason to dislike Obama?

    Interesting choice.
    Like you need anymore reasons anyway. Was there anyone you would've been happy for him to pick that was a genuine front runner?

    I just get the feeling whoever he picked, we would still see the same headline here from you..

    Maybe that's not the case...Enlighten me if i'm wrong. I'm all ears.
  • unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    I would have liked to see General Clark. I mean if I have to suffer through an Obama presidency I'd at least like to have the good General around.
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