Obama picks Biden for VP

MrBrian
MrBrian Posts: 2,672
edited August 2008 in A Moving Train
Even more reason to dislike Obama?

Interesting choice.
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  • norm
    norm Posts: 31,146
    well someone had to be
  • fuck
    fuck Posts: 4,069
    cutback wrote:
    well someone had to be
    i guess if obama picked joe lieberman, we'd say "well someone had to be"

    joe biden sucks... now i'll have to debate whether or not I should support Obama....... very hard choice.
  • MrBrian
    MrBrian Posts: 2,672
    Some things about him,


    "I am a zionist"

    http://shalomtv.org/pdfs/ShalomTV_Biden_PR.pdf
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    Good choice Barack
  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,237
    Let's see what that bumpersticker might look like Obama/Biden

    Eh nothing special there?

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  • catch22
    catch22 Posts: 1,081
    he needed the credibility among the democratic establishment and those concerned with defense/national affairs, a weak spot for him. it's a smart play on his part.
    and like that... he's gone.
  • MrBrian
    MrBrian Posts: 2,672
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAZmO80dLfE
  • drew0
    drew0 Posts: 943
    I couldn't be more happy with the choice. Joe Biden is an amazing Senator and a great choice.

    He is one of the most well respected Senators in the world. He will bring many strengths to the Obama campaign - he well provide assurance to those who are uneasy about Obama's lack of experience, when Obama needs legislation past Biden will be of great help by twisting arms and such just as Johnson was to Kennedy, he appeals to the blue collar workers Obama has trouble with - he's a blue collar, middle class (worth <$150,000), Catholic, rural, friendly, white guy.

    Joe Biden is the perfect chocie for Obama and I will make a great campaigner.

    Kennedy/Johnson & Bush/Cheney won. Kerry/Edwards lost. America likes the young figurehead at the top with an old experience guy at the bottom.

    Why I love Joe Biden - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1op8vwF5UA
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  • fuck
    fuck Posts: 4,069
    MrBrian wrote:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAZmO80dLfE
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  • MrBrian
    MrBrian Posts: 2,672
    _outlaw wrote:
    ...

    Yeah you know, I'm sure a Zionist will be fair when dealing with the Palestinians.

    here, a great Biden quote
    The Democrats' support for Israel "comes from our gut, moves through our heart, and ends up in our head. It's almost genetic." (October 5, 2006)
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    He should add, "then comes out of our ass holes"
  • MrBrian
    MrBrian Posts: 2,672
    "Because of our lack of a prevention strategy, we're left with no option here, in my view, but to support Israel in what is a totally legitimate self-defense effort." (Washington, July 16, 2006)

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  • fuck
    fuck Posts: 4,069
    MrBrian wrote:
    Yeah you know, I'm sure a Zionist will be fair when dealing with the Palestinians.

    here, a great Biden quote
    The Democrats' support for Israel "comes from our gut, moves through our heart, and ends up in our head. It's almost genetic." (October 5, 2006)
    ---

    He should add, "then comes out of our ass holes"
    oh, absolutely. the democrats' love is unbearable:
    http://forums.pearljam.com/showthread.php?t=297543

    Looks like the Obama/Biden team is the perfect one to spearhead Israel's occupation and oppression of Palestinians. I wonder how many Palestinians will die for every vote that is punched in for Obama this election.
  • catch22
    catch22 Posts: 1,081
    _outlaw wrote:
    oh, absolutely. the democrats' love is unbearable:
    http://forums.pearljam.com/showthread.php?t=297543

    Looks like the Obama/Biden team is the perfect one to spearhead Israel's occupation and oppression of Palestinians. I wonder how many Palestinians will die for every vote that is punched in for Obama this election.

    considering that even with our piss-poor turn out, american voters outnumber palestinians probably 10 to 1... i'm gonna guess 1/70th of a palestinian dies for every vote cast for obama.
    and like that... he's gone.
  • fuck
    fuck Posts: 4,069
    catch22 wrote:
    considering that even with our piss-poor turn out, american voters outnumber palestinians probably 10 to 1... i'm gonna guess 1/70th of a palestinian dies for every vote cast for obama.
    only a few thousand, what's the big deal right??

    and it's not like that even includes the ones having their rights violated, living in poverty and segregation... nah, who gives a shit.

    Obama '08!!
  • MrBrian
    MrBrian Posts: 2,672
    So he (Biden)voted for the Iraq war, is in love with Israel and I think voted to entend the patriot act.

    So far so good,
  • catch22
    catch22 Posts: 1,081
    _outlaw wrote:
    only a few thousand, what's the big deal right??

    and it's not like that even includes the ones having their rights violated, living in poverty and segregation... nah, who gives a shit.

    Obama '08!!

    hey man, you wanted the math! i just crunch the numbers :)

    there are people dying the world over. what makes the palestinians so much more important than the millions of africans dying in civil war and hunger? i'm not picking my president based on any one issue. it's looking at the whole package. nobody is going to be perfect.
    and like that... he's gone.
  • catch22
    catch22 Posts: 1,081
    MrBrian wrote:
    So he (Biden)voted for the Iraq war, is in love with Israel and I think voted to entend the patriot act.

    So far so good,

    good thing he's not running for president then, and will be taking his orders from obama ;)
    and like that... he's gone.
  • MrBrian
    MrBrian Posts: 2,672
    catch22 wrote:
    hey man, you wanted the math! i just crunch the numbers :)

    there are people dying the world over. what makes the palestinians so much more important than the millions of africans dying in civil war and hunger? i'm not picking my president based on any one issue. it's looking at the whole package. nobody is going to be perfect.

    Who said it's more important? It's just a more talked about topic right now. Indeed nobody is going to be perfect, but on such a big topic like this, can he afford to be so wrong?

    Imagine in the 80s you had an american candidate who said that he supports apartheid south africa, would you not be turned off by him?

    same thing with this...It's wrong to support israel the way these guys do.
  • fuck
    fuck Posts: 4,069
    MrBrian wrote:
    Who said it's more important? It's just a more talked about topic right now. Indeed nobody is going to be perfect, but on such a big topic like this, can he afford to be so wrong?

    Imagine in the 80s you had an american candidate who said that he supports apartheid south africa, would you not be turned off by him?

    same thing with this...It's wrong to support israel the way these guys do.
    other than the fact that it's pretty much the hottest issue in the middle east, and one of the biggest in the world.

    if the U.S. were to take an ACTUAL effort to end its blinded support of Israel and work towards the international solution, the entire world would look to us in a new light.

    too bad obama and biden seem to want to continue down this same pathetic road...
  • catch22
    catch22 Posts: 1,081
    MrBrian wrote:
    Who said it's more important? It's just a more talked about topic right now. Indeed nobody is going to be perfect, but on such a big topic like this, can he afford to be so wrong?

    Imagine in the 80s you had an american candidate who said that he supports apartheid south africa, would you not be turned off by him?

    same thing with this...It's wrong to support israel the way these guys do.

    sure it is. but it's like candidates on the right saying they support christian values. they all have to pay lip service, but nobody does shit about it. sure, they'll cut israel a check now and again (though didnt they recently stop doing even that?), but i think more than anything they all want to keep their hands out of it because they know it's just a huge clusterfuck over there.
    and like that... he's gone.
  • MrBrian
    MrBrian Posts: 2,672
    catch22 wrote:
    sure it is. but it's like candidates on the right saying they support christian values. they all have to pay lip service, but nobody does shit about it. sure, they'll cut israel a check now and again (though didnt they recently stop doing even that?), but i think more than anything they all want to keep their hands out of it because they know it's just a huge clusterfuck over there.

    It's like cutting a cheque for a killer every now and then so he can kill more, then being like "I don't really like to get my hands dirty"

    When you say that you will stand by someone even when they do wrong, then arm them so they can do more wrong. I think that's a bit more then some lip service, no?
    These are serious actions that have serious Consequences

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