(btw my earlier reply to you was not meant to be confrontational so I hope it did'nt come across that way)
oh no, not at all. you asked a straight question, nothing more. i might have even come across as confrontational, but that wasn't my intention, either. i was just trying to make a point. : )
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After refining uranium, they need to dispose of the DU and dumping it in American, well that's just not American.
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you know i find this saddam execution a little surreal.
i am not a fan of his by any means but...well... i don't know how to feel. i think i feel numb.
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you know i find this saddam execution a little surreal.
i am not a fan of his by any means but...well... i don't know how to feel. i think i feel numb.
comfortably?
I think his execution one of the biggest mistakes ever.
Unfair or not is not an issue with this trial as Sadam would have been convicted either way. He deserved his convictions (the death penalty is another debate). But the trial was a joke. No one is ever (in a would be fair trial) convicted and executed before all his crimes have been judged. A few months to state on more than 20 years of crimes? I don't buy it, he has not been convicted of all that he did and the family of the victims know this, and the trial was unfair to them.
I dunno about any of that, i'm just trying to show that at the end of the day, as bad as saddam was, he was still a human.
I'm meeting people in person all talking about how great it is that he was hung, passing the video along. Justice was not done, he did not even have a fair trial. It was as scripted as a hollywood movie. How is having a corrupt court system good for iraqis? we should be sad that the US backed court system in iraq is so corrupt, as corrupt now as it was under hussein, and people cheer "justice was done!"
You have got to be a democrat!!!
He should not have even been on trial! R U serious?
All the evil shit this guy did is posted all over the place and you say you need more proof that he was a evil fuck?
The only way to win with people like him are to kill them
Its like a cancer, you have to cut it out early before it spreads to far.
Plain and simple.
Get em a Body Bag Yeeeeeaaaaa!
Sweep the Leg Johnny.
You have got to be a democrat!!!
He should not have even been on trial! R U serious?
All the evil shit this guy did is posted all over the place and you say you need more proof that he was a evil fuck?
The only way to win with people like him are to kill them
Its like a cancer, you have to cut it out early before it spreads to far.
Plain and simple.
Unfair or not is not an issue with this trial as Sadam would have been convicted either way. He deserved his convictions (the death penalty is another debate). But the trial was a joke. No one is ever (in a would be fair trial) convicted and executed before all his crimes have been judged. A few months to state on more than 20 years of crimes? I don't buy it, he has not been convicted of all that he did and the family of the victims know this, and the trial was unfair to them.
fair trial? what was saddams defense? we know what he did and he wasnt ashamed to admit it, he got what was coming to him end of story.....so the moral is you can commit genacide but if you feed birds we should let you off
Thanks, I had a good laugh after reading this.
The only reason Saddem's trail was a joke, was because he made it one.
You have got to be a democrat!!!
He should not have even been on trial! R U serious?
All the evil shit this guy did is posted all over the place and you say you need more proof that he was a evil fuck?
The only way to win with people like him are to kill them
Its like a cancer, you have to cut it out early before it spreads to far.
Plain and simple.
I'm far from a democrat. I never said that he should not of been on trial.
More proof? I'm not saying he did'nt do whatever else, but if you are in court, go through the motions and prove it, it's only fair to the people of iraq, that is true justice. Not a quick killing.
cancer? you know what caused that Iraqi cancer? America, it allowed this so called cancer to grow, perhaps we kill america? let's go to the source so it does'nt happen again.
I know it can be fun to throw around the word genocide at any old world leader who is responsible for the dropping of bombs. But, I think it's important to have some respect for the word genocide by using it where it applies.
gen·o·cide
the deliberate and systematic extermination of a national, racial, political, or cultural group.
Bush is not out to exterminate arabs. He's interested in the oil on top of which the arabs live. A lot of arabs may have died, but his intentions were to kill no more arabs than is necessary to take control. On the other hand, Saddam was interested in exterminating the kurds because he saw all kurds as the enemy. Bush = mass murder Saddam = genocide
Man oh man, that is some whacky logic going on there. If "political" and "cultural" fit the definition, then I think nearly any modern war of one country on another is an act of genocide.
It's funny that you, sponger, can see a difference. What's not so funny is that there's a whole slew of people like you who are as misguided in their thinking.
Man oh man, that is some whacky logic going on there. If "political" and "cultural" fit the definition, then I think nearly any modern war of one country on another is an act of genocide.
It's funny that you, sponger, can see a difference. What's not so funny is that there's a whole slew of people like you who are as misguided in their thinking.
If you play into the semantics of it all, then it can be said that all wars do fit the criteria for genocide in some form or another.
However, by doing that, you only serve to marginalize genocide in its purest form. If not, then what word besides genocide would you use to describe what happened to the jews in WWII?
Can you honestly compare the American Revolution to millions of jews being gassed and thrown into ovens?
The truth of the matter is that you really don't know what you're talking about, but you have for some reason grown accustom to passing off highly subjective rhetoric as objective analysis by playing into the semantics of tragedy.
If that were not the case, then you wouldn't feel compelled to begin your post with an insult to my logic, which is obviously just filler on your part.
Now, do make an effort to reply with something you've put some thought into. The whole entire post which I've quoted above is all condescending filler except for the part where it says "cultural vs. political". You probably knew this was a weak argument and so decided it was necessary to add some carefully worded taunts. It's either that you just felt like taunting somebody and knew that you had to at least try to make an argument to justify the wasted message board space. So which was it?
Well that's something that I find so interesting, such a bad guy found what seems like some sorta peace when he faced his own mortality.
nevertheless, if you want to talk about prevention, well america could've prevented all of this if it did'nt back hussein in the first place way back when.
The inspectors also said that he did'nt have WMDs so are we still going on about the inspectors? was this war really about WMDs anyway? even if it took another 10years for more inspectors, so be it, Iraq was not such a great threat that an invasion was a must at that point in time.[/QUObate the war TE]
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I'm not going to debate the war or whether he had WMD's, because quite frankly it's not my countries war. All I,m saying is he could have stopped his own demise, also I believe he was also offered a chance at going into exile, and I'm sure he pilfered enough money to live off of. And yes your right Bush could have prevented this to.
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Well, the poster is in his box of fear that liberals and Eddie preach and trick people with, so what else is he supposed to think? Remember when the liberals scared us all into thinking the Republicans would steal the 2006 election? That was a good one.
You still havent gotten over this liberal and conservative thing? Just for once try to look past it and see what you find. It might be enlightning.
Have you ever thought that bill oreilly is tricking you? Nah, that couldnt be possible could it?
I saw a video clip of Hitler playing with his German Shephard...you could see he was just being normal, petting his dog...just like me.
It is weird that someone who is a mass murderer would have personality characteristics such as showing affection towards his dog. It made me think... something.
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Of course it had to be a German Shephard. Had it been a dog of another "breed", der fuhrer may not have been all kisses and hugs.
Yes, there would have been a cleansing I am sure.
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Little did he know that German Shepards are prone to developing osteroperosis. So much for the master breed.
And that's why I think dogs are a great example of why eugenics is really a lot of smoke and mirrors. Mixed-breed dogs are known to be better immune to genetic diseases. Could the same not apply to people?
Also, Hitler molested his niece for years, so I'm not so sure if it can be said that Hitler was capable of being human.
He may have displayed affection to the dog because he could at least appreciate a dog's loyalty. Every dictator should have an appreciation for loyalty.
You have got to be a democrat!!!
He should not have even been on trial! R U serious?
All the evil shit this guy did is posted all over the place and you say you need more proof that he was a evil fuck?
The only way to win with people like him are to kill them
Its like a cancer, you have to cut it out early before it spreads to far.
Plain and simple.
What should happen the people within the US goverment that put him in power and the others who supported him and sold him weapons? They must be just as evil, right? Are you up for stringing up Rumsfeld?
What should happen the people within the US goverment that put him in power and the others who supported him and sold him weapons? They must be just as evil, right? Are you up for stringing up Rumsfeld?
Rumsfeld did not have torture chambers. Rumsfeld did not beat a man then make him watch as his wife and 6 month old child had there heads bashed in.
Saddam did.
You are wrong.
Get em a Body Bag Yeeeeeaaaaa!
Sweep the Leg Johnny.
I saw a video clip of Hitler playing with his German Shephard...you could see he was just being normal, petting his dog...just like me.
It is weird that someone who is a mass murderer would have personality characteristics such as showing affection towards his dog. It made me think... something.
What on earth did it make you think?
That he is a person like us who has feelings and should be respected and treated kindly?
Get em a Body Bag Yeeeeeaaaaa!
Sweep the Leg Johnny.
What on earth did it make you think?
That he is a person like us who has feelings and should be respected and treated kindly?
I can't speak for WindNoSail, but he has a point. We say he isn't human because it's easier. It's easier to kill something than someone. But the point is they are human, just like us. They are obviously despicable sick fucks but they are human.
Rumsfeld did not have torture chambers. Rumsfeld did not beat a man then make him watch as his wife and 6 month old child had there heads bashed in.
Saddam did.
You are wrong.
So you are saying Rumsfeld isn't evil? Are you saying the people who support such behaviour, the behaviour you like to see punished with death, are not evil or are not guilty? How about Manson, he never killed anyone and wasn't at the scenes where the murders occured?
I am finished here. You are to funny.
No disrespect to you but we just disagree.
To many softies here.
Just remember, these people who we are dealing with over there do not think like you do. It does not even cross there mind for a split second.
They will not allow you to sit with them and try to get them to listen to reason b/c in there eyes it is your reasoning not theres.
So if people like you were in charge there would be more soldiers being killed as well as people being killed in our countries.
Get em a Body Bag Yeeeeeaaaaa!
Sweep the Leg Johnny.
I am finished here. You are to funny.
No disrespect to you but we just disagree.
To many softies here.
Just remember, these people who we are dealing with over there do not think like you do. It does not even cross there mind for a split second.
They will not allow you to sit with them and try to get them to listen to reason b/c in there eyes it is your reasoning not theres.
So if people like you were in charge there would be more soldiers being killed as well as people being killed in our countries.
Nice dodge, but you can't answer it, can you? What should be done about the people who have supported Saddam's regime, who have given him weapons so he could do those terrible things? Are they less evil? Shouldn't they be punished as well? Do they not have responsibility as well in all this? If you think not, than surely you'd like to see Manson out of jail.
Edit: Are people softies for being against the death penalty? I could argue that the people who are for the death penalty are the softies.
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Another habit like an unwanted friend
I'm so happy with my righteous self
ok i'll bite.
such as?
I don't doubt it,
(btw my earlier reply to you was not meant to be confrontational so I hope it did'nt come across that way)
oh no, not at all. you asked a straight question, nothing more. i might have even come across as confrontational, but that wasn't my intention, either. i was just trying to make a point. : )
Another habit says its long overdue
Another habit like an unwanted friend
I'm so happy with my righteous self
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After refining uranium, they need to dispose of the DU and dumping it in American, well that's just not American.
i am not a fan of his by any means but...well... i don't know how to feel. i think i feel numb.
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
I think his execution one of the biggest mistakes ever.
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no. it's a very uncomfortable numbness.
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
Unfair or not is not an issue with this trial as Sadam would have been convicted either way. He deserved his convictions (the death penalty is another debate). But the trial was a joke. No one is ever (in a would be fair trial) convicted and executed before all his crimes have been judged. A few months to state on more than 20 years of crimes? I don't buy it, he has not been convicted of all that he did and the family of the victims know this, and the trial was unfair to them.
You have got to be a democrat!!!
He should not have even been on trial! R U serious?
All the evil shit this guy did is posted all over the place and you say you need more proof that he was a evil fuck?
The only way to win with people like him are to kill them
Its like a cancer, you have to cut it out early before it spreads to far.
Plain and simple.
Sweep the Leg Johnny.
Where did he say he needed more proof?
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He said Saddam did not receive a fair trial. a trial determines whether a person is gulity or not with proof.
Not needed here.
Sweep the Leg Johnny.
Read Kann's post:
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Thanks, I had a good laugh after reading this.
The only reason Saddem's trail was a joke, was because he made it one.
I'm far from a democrat. I never said that he should not of been on trial.
More proof? I'm not saying he did'nt do whatever else, but if you are in court, go through the motions and prove it, it's only fair to the people of iraq, that is true justice. Not a quick killing.
cancer? you know what caused that Iraqi cancer? America, it allowed this so called cancer to grow, perhaps we kill america? let's go to the source so it does'nt happen again.
Man oh man, that is some whacky logic going on there. If "political" and "cultural" fit the definition, then I think nearly any modern war of one country on another is an act of genocide.
It's funny that you, sponger, can see a difference. What's not so funny is that there's a whole slew of people like you who are as misguided in their thinking.
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If you play into the semantics of it all, then it can be said that all wars do fit the criteria for genocide in some form or another.
However, by doing that, you only serve to marginalize genocide in its purest form. If not, then what word besides genocide would you use to describe what happened to the jews in WWII?
Can you honestly compare the American Revolution to millions of jews being gassed and thrown into ovens?
The truth of the matter is that you really don't know what you're talking about, but you have for some reason grown accustom to passing off highly subjective rhetoric as objective analysis by playing into the semantics of tragedy.
If that were not the case, then you wouldn't feel compelled to begin your post with an insult to my logic, which is obviously just filler on your part.
Now, do make an effort to reply with something you've put some thought into. The whole entire post which I've quoted above is all condescending filler except for the part where it says "cultural vs. political". You probably knew this was a weak argument and so decided it was necessary to add some carefully worded taunts. It's either that you just felt like taunting somebody and knew that you had to at least try to make an argument to justify the wasted message board space. So which was it?
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You still havent gotten over this liberal and conservative thing? Just for once try to look past it and see what you find. It might be enlightning.
Have you ever thought that bill oreilly is tricking you? Nah, that couldnt be possible could it?
It is weird that someone who is a mass murderer would have personality characteristics such as showing affection towards his dog. It made me think... something.
Of course it had to be a German Shephard. Had it been a dog of another "breed", der fuhrer may not have been all kisses and hugs.
http://forums.pearljam.com/showthread.php?t=272825
Yes, there would have been a cleansing I am sure.
Little did he know that German Shepards are prone to developing osteroperosis. So much for the master breed.
And that's why I think dogs are a great example of why eugenics is really a lot of smoke and mirrors. Mixed-breed dogs are known to be better immune to genetic diseases. Could the same not apply to people?
Also, Hitler molested his niece for years, so I'm not so sure if it can be said that Hitler was capable of being human.
He may have displayed affection to the dog because he could at least appreciate a dog's loyalty. Every dictator should have an appreciation for loyalty.
http://forums.pearljam.com/showthread.php?t=272825
What should happen the people within the US goverment that put him in power and the others who supported him and sold him weapons? They must be just as evil, right? Are you up for stringing up Rumsfeld?
Rumsfeld did not have torture chambers. Rumsfeld did not beat a man then make him watch as his wife and 6 month old child had there heads bashed in.
Saddam did.
You are wrong.
Sweep the Leg Johnny.
What on earth did it make you think?
That he is a person like us who has feelings and should be respected and treated kindly?
Sweep the Leg Johnny.
I can't speak for WindNoSail, but he has a point. We say he isn't human because it's easier. It's easier to kill something than someone. But the point is they are human, just like us. They are obviously despicable sick fucks but they are human.
So you are saying Rumsfeld isn't evil? Are you saying the people who support such behaviour, the behaviour you like to see punished with death, are not evil or are not guilty? How about Manson, he never killed anyone and wasn't at the scenes where the murders occured?
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No disrespect to you but we just disagree.
To many softies here.
Just remember, these people who we are dealing with over there do not think like you do. It does not even cross there mind for a split second.
They will not allow you to sit with them and try to get them to listen to reason b/c in there eyes it is your reasoning not theres.
So if people like you were in charge there would be more soldiers being killed as well as people being killed in our countries.
Sweep the Leg Johnny.
Nice dodge, but you can't answer it, can you? What should be done about the people who have supported Saddam's regime, who have given him weapons so he could do those terrible things? Are they less evil? Shouldn't they be punished as well? Do they not have responsibility as well in all this? If you think not, than surely you'd like to see Manson out of jail.
Edit: Are people softies for being against the death penalty? I could argue that the people who are for the death penalty are the softies.
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